Introducing Gods and Magic in the Man of Steel Universe

Introducing Gods and Magic in the Man of Steel Universe

As Warner Brothers prepares to unite Superman and Batman in 2015’s Man of Steel sequel, men in suits are racking their brains figuring out how to expand the DC cinematic universe to prepare for the Justice League. The most crucial element of this discussion is how they plan to address gods and magic in their “reality-based” Man of Steel universe. Here’s one way they can and why it’s necessary.

Editorial Opinion
By Super12 - Sep 08, 2013 06:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic



Warner Brothers is pretty much right where Marvel was after Iron Man. They have laid the groundwork for a multi-franchise universe but so far only have a couple key characters introduced to the equation. The trick is going to be how to incorporate the never before seen characters with mystical and god-like attributes like Wonder Woman and Aquaman, without sacrificing the “reality-based” and “grounded” approach they’ve taken.

I don’t think anyone can argue that when Marvel successfully introduced Thor to the big screen it was an absolute triumph for the genre. Norse gods in capes and armor were flying around the galaxy on rainbow bridges, and general audiences ate it up! The key as we all know was that they weren’t gods, merely advanced alien races. It strayed slightly from the source, but was ultimately worth it.

Now you can’t tell Wonder Woman’s story without Greek mythology, you just can’t. And this presents a new dilemma as the elements of deities and religion are usually ignored and not brought up in most sci-fi and comic book movies. That’s because the harsh reality is that when, for the sake of the story, a modern audience (particularly one like the U.S. where most are familiar with a Judeo-Christian view of the world) is asked to accept that there are gods out there besides their own then they withdraw to an extent from the movie experience. Movies are supposed to draw us in and make us believe for just a moment that this fantastic story is real and happening. When our core identifying beliefs are challenged, it becomes harder to do so. Not impossible, but harder. The MCU walked that line perfectly with Captain America’s line “There’s only one God, ma’am, and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t dress like that,” as well as the constant reminders Asgardians are not real immortals. It allows the possibility for God to still exist in this universe despite all the craziness. Audiences can relax.

However, if you were to say that Zeus and Ares are real…actually REAL gods…then you take the DCU and move it from a “reality-based” perspective into a “fantasy-based” one. Audiences will lump it in with Clash of the Titans instead of what Snyder and WB want, which is to see how these DC characters would work in the real world. Asking the general audience to put Greek gods and Batman together in the same movie is unfortunately asking a bit too much.

So. How do we handle this?


It’s simple really. We don’t look behind the curtain.

Princess Diana of Themyscira can talk all she wants about all the strength Hera gives her, but as long as we don’t see any Greek gods then that will always be left up for interpretation. Instead what we see is a group of Amazons and Atlanteans who possess powers, weapons and technology that according to them were given to them by the gods, but we never see these gods or see much proof of them. As the movie plays on and we meet more Atlanteans and Amazons we see hints of the possibility that these deities were maybe not actual gods, but powerful aliens from millennia ago. It doesn’t exclude the possibility of Greed gods, but merely alludes to a different possible explanation. In this way we allow the audiences to relate these characters with already established idea of super-powered aliens, which is just somehow much more acceptable, without necessarily contradicting canon.

Now I know that already many of you are scrolling down for the comments section to blast away at my heresy. I know that tampering with such an iconic character like Wonder Woman’s world is comic book sacrilege. And I know that removing Ares as a potential villain is devastating to a lot of fans. But what else is there? Just how much success has Wonder Woman had at this point? Why hasn’t she been able to see the big screen yet despite being one of the most well-known characters of all time? Because it’s definitely not because she’s a woman. We are well past the point where female heroines can star as the lead in Hollywood blockbusters, even in action genres. That isn’t the issue. Something’s holding her back, so for her to work in this DCU then some compromises are going to need to be made.

If the writers of the Justice League, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman movies follow a specific formula that allows the possibility of other explanations for these god-like powers, then these outlandish concepts can be understood and fit into the Man of Steel mold.
No one said they weren’t gods, but no one proved they were either. Audiences could leave with their own theories (maybe she’s the daughter of Zeus! Maybe the Greek gods are real, but I think they’re aliens! Maybe the Atlanteans are descendants of aliens! Maybe the Amazons were descendants of Kryptonians! That ship from Man of Steel did crash here thousands of years ago…)

By leaving these questions unanswered you create mystery, which will only add to the depth and attraction of this brave new DC universe. For all we know Zeus could be a powerful other dimensional being. Or he could be a myth. If the heads at WB want to risk it and be true to the source then I’m all for it. But I fear that that won’t be a possibility and ultimately will make the DCU suffer. Instead, they should address the Atlanteans and Amazons’ relationships with gods like Poseidon and Zeus in the in the same way historians and anthropologists view any ancient culture’s relationships with their deities. And they should avoid discussing it in the movie as much as possible. Focus on the characters and the plot. The evidence (Diana’s flight, Aquaman’s trident, Atlantean physiology, magic lasso) of these gods can each be easily explained individually, or if need be left open to interpretation. Either way, the magic of the new DCU can’t be explained as simply as “oh yeah and Greek gods exist now. Always have. Ta-da!” Let’s take the Thor approach and make some movie magic…

These are just my thoughts, so I’d love to hear yours. It is my first article so please be kind :)

Sound off with your comments below!
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OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 9/8/2013, 6:33 PM
nice job. i like a lot of the ideas in the article. i wish more people put this much effort into their editorials.

i dunno tho i still think it should lean a little toward fantasy. you said clash of the titans, my example would have been god of war. same difference.

there are some tricky characters to pull off that's for sure. but i would hardly call man of steel realistic or grounded.
SnapperCarr
SnapperCarr - 9/8/2013, 7:03 PM
Nice article. This is a topic that needs to be addressed.

Aquaman's mythos don't rely heavily on Greek mythology as much as Wonder Woman. You can namedrop Atlantis being created by Poseidon but most of your focus will be on Aquman and his villain, most likely Black Manta.

Wonder Woman on the other hand, relies heavily on Gods and magic. Taking away the Gods takes pretty much every good villain(Ares, Circe, etc) she has and leaves us with Cheetah(who is a great villain but isn't a good origin story villain), Giganta(who works better in teams) and a bunch of her lesser known villains that also don't really work well as solo characters.

Just have the a massive war in the past where the gods abused their powers and there was a lot of destruction. When the war ended, there was a charter and the gods stopped having an influence on humanity or something along those lines. Hippolyta was also granted an island where women could hide from the evils of man. In the present, Ares decides to start up another war as he hasn't felt a power surge in years.
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 9/8/2013, 9:28 PM
Nice article, I suggested something similar in comments on another thread. My idea was that you just present her as an Amazon, and present all Amazons as being stronger than normal humans (just as the Thor movie basically presented him as being just another Asgardian, with his extra strength, flight, & other powers coming from the hammer.) You could say that her extra powers, including flight, come from being a member of the royal family, the daughter of the queen. Or, although I don't really like this idea, go the Thor route and have her flying ability come from some device, such as her belt (this is kind of what the TV show did, although she couldn't fly on that show.)

Suggesting that they are descended from the Kryptonians in the spaceship is an interesting idea, because you could explain her not having all of Superman's powers by the fact that she is many generations removed from pure Kryptonian, and they intermarried with humans, causing them to lose the different vision abilities and so on. But, the one big problem is that the prequel comic showed that only Supergirl survived the crash. You could instead just say that the Amazons evolved slightly differently so that their cells, like Superman's cells, are enriched by our young sun to give them extra powers.

One other way to describe their flying abilities is through geology. The island could be shown to have, through some quirk of geology, an unusually high gravitational field. Then you say that over thousands of years the Amazons adapted to it so that when they are off the island they have extra strength and the ability to fly.

As for her enemies, you could still have them. Have Ares be an alien with superpowers who loves war and came to Earth in the past to foment it, being seen by primitive humans as a god. Have him come back to Earth to start another war. Circe could be dealt with in a similar manner.

There are probably other ways to do this too. The point is to present Wonder Woman in a way that general audiences can understand, and that they are willing to suspend disbelief about. As for Aquaman, just present him and all Atlanteans as humans who evolved to be amphibian and developed telepathy with water creatures, along with his other powers.
SnapperCarr
SnapperCarr - 9/8/2013, 9:46 PM
I know this will piss off a lot of WW fans, but I don't want her to have flying powers in a live action movie. Super jump I'm okay with, but flight just takes away from displaying her warrior side.
aresww3
aresww3 - 9/9/2013, 8:53 AM
@everyone - Man Of Steel nor any of the Batman films were grounded in reality apart from maybe DKR which nearly everyone hates. MOS had a fricking wormhole open up on earth that only sucked in kryptonians. I mean the having Amazons come from krypton or ancestors be kryptonian will offend alot of females into the ww character. They will just end up thinking they´ve made wonder woman into a superman clone, which is stupid. Added to that Ares powers to draw on the psychic energy of war for instance will become unexplainable. I think the issue here is not trying to change her origin to make it fit into a grounded reality based approach. rather its just making a good story. I mean the same can be said of green lantern or flash. why people focus on ww is beyond me. Green Lantern has a ring powered by will, how do you ground that in reality? and flash, is hit by lightning and chemicals to become flash. again not very realistic. take the approach the animated films take and people will be fine with this reality. as long as its gritty, a bit more psychologically real, you can make people drift into the fantasy. Making them aliens, just makes this more complex and convoluted and in the end will make people focus on that aspect of the story. tell a good story and people will buy it. its that simple.
tvor03
tvor03 - 9/9/2013, 10:14 AM
I had an idea on how to combine the sci-fi reality of MOS with the mythic origins of WW. All explained in an opening monologue by Hippolyta, she talks about how a star fell to earth, and from that star came the Titans, the most powerful beings the world has ever known. But visually, we see a spaceship land and several Kryptonians emerging from it. Soon, another ship lands and a different group of aliens emerge from it, and they're at war with the Kryps. Hippolyta calls them the gods. These gods do not gain the same abilities that the Kryps get, so in order to battle them, they create a race of superbeings from earth's existing population to match the Kryps in strength and speed. These are the Amazons (can also be Atlanteans if you so desire) and they eventually win. Once their battle is over the alien gods are called back to their homeworld. The Amazons retreat into hiding since they're sole purpose was to fight Titans, and so they wait until another threat may show up.
Forthas
Forthas - 9/9/2013, 1:27 PM
In order to ground it in reality you need to dig deeper than what the known greco roman mythology provides. FOR EXAMPLE if I were writing a Wonder Woman story, I would write a story about her father being from a different planet. The name of that father would be Diēus...why that name? Because the name Zeus is derived from it. It is also where the word diety is derived. So if you created a story about an alien named Diēus, the Judeo-Christians would not be up in arms because they would not automatically associate it with Zeus. On the other hand, the hardcore Wonder Woman fans who believe she NEEDS to be the daughter of Zeus can be placated when it is explained that (according to Wikipedia)

"Zeus is the Greek continuation of *Diēus, the name of the Proto-Indo-European god of the daytime sky, also called *Dyeus ph tēr ("Sky Father")

Basically by telling a story that predates the Greco-Roman myth (since no one knows about anything prior to those myths) you could avoid having to deal with known mythology directly and then as you stated not address Greek gods at all or the relationship between mythology and Wonder Woman.

A further example is that Wonder Woman may have had an alien nemesis named Enyalios which according to Wikipedia is an alternate name for the God of War.
Gnyah123
Gnyah123 - 9/9/2013, 9:56 PM
or DC and WB can just man up stick the the source from the comics and add the greek stuff in for wonder woman and so on for characters...that would be bad ass as well
Gnyah123
Gnyah123 - 9/9/2013, 10:07 PM
they could just pull a thor and add gods etc..without given us a back round origin about them..
just have them be gods...amazons and etc..
i dont think ppl will care THAT much about it
ppl know who the justice league is so if and when a movie comes i dont think they will do that and should worry about all that stuff with wonder woman etc..
SnapperCarr
SnapperCarr - 9/9/2013, 11:37 PM
The problem with doing straight up gods is where do they fit in this world full of sci-fi. Why don't they respond when the world is in danger?
Rokyn
Rokyn - 9/10/2013, 1:44 PM
I agree great article. Leave it up for the audience to decide. Though I will say that WW's magic lasso and her other equipment being given by the Gods would be a nice nod to the lore. Aquaman would be easy but the problem I see is how come these humans in this universe can't detect these beings like Wonder Woman and Aquaman and their lands (or sea kingdoms lol)? That's question I ask since it's a semi-realistic world.
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