MAGNETO'S movie age decoded!

MAGNETO'S movie age decoded!

See high school arithmetic finally put to practical use as I attempt to solve the mystery of the Master of Magnetism's birthday!

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By gibbyblaylock - Dec 21, 2009 11:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

Now that Bryan Singer has signed to take the reigns of the fifth film in the X-Men saga, "X-Men First Class," a great deal of casting speculation has been discussed among the fans. Out of the slew of merry mutants whose names have been tossed around as First Class hopefuls, it seems generally accepted that younger versions of Magneto and Professor Xavier will probably be featured in the film. But when it comes to casting a younger Eric Lensher, what age range is appropriate for the harried, helmeted, Holocaust survivor? Read on as I use boring, boring math to analyze the X-movie franchise and hopefully solve the riddle of Magneto's movie age.



Clive Owen, Daniel Craig, and Ed Harris are just a few of the names that have been bandied about as possible actor’s to fill Mag’s big red cape. But which of these fine gents is old, or young, enough for the role?

In the first X-film, we see a young Eric just as he’s sprouting short-and-curlies; not to mention some wicked super powers, in the midst of the Holocaust. The Holocaust happened between 1939 and 1945. So, if MAGNETO was able to use his powers in the first movie, it stands to reason (considering Marvel mutant science), that he has hit puberty sometime within this six year window. This puts his birth year somewhere around 1930.

Bearing that in mind, let's look back at X-men (2000). In that movie Professor X alludes to the fact that Wolverine has been an amnesiac for 15 years. This would mean that the events of "X-Men Origins: Wolverine"-- which included Cyclops as a post-pubescent teen--took place around 1985.

SO, all that said means that Cyclops was born around 1970 and joined the X-men first class right around the time that Marty McFly was driving a Delorean back in time and kissing his Mom, 1985. Give or take. This puts Magneto at about 55 years old at the time First Class would take place.

Which means that Shaman's suggestion of 59 year old Ed Harris as Mags would be closer to his actual age than Clive Owen or Daniel Craig who are 45 and 41, respectively.

Now, if we play with those numbers so that Mags is hitting puberty and twisting metal gates all to hell right as the holocaust is near it's end, he could have been born around 1933. This makes him about 52 in '85. This is a bit closer to Owen's age and not a big stretch.

But Mags would probably be older, especially when you consider that it's more likely that young Eric Lensher's family was being marched off to a camp in the early days of the Holocaust. Also, most boys don't hit puberty at 12, that's kind of early. That could put Lensher's birth year at around 1925. It's possible that in 1985 Magneto was already 60. Which means that in "X-Men: he would've been 75 and by "X3" he'd have been, at most, over 80! This is a little insulting to poor Sir Ian Mckellan who's actually 70 today and was 61 in 2000 and only 46 in '85.

Of course, one could also argue that it's possible that in the fictional X-Men movie universe the Holocaust didn't happen until the fifties or even sixties. One could just as easily argue that it's all just a movie franchise and who gives a crap how old these people are as long as they use their powers to rip one another new A-holes and that the women wear outfits that just barely cover their naughty bits.

Plus, math is boring.
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shahrazstate
shahrazstate - 12/21/2009, 11:32 PM
Michael Rosenbaum should play a young Professor X. Would anyone have any objections
tazmaniak
tazmaniak - 12/21/2009, 11:43 PM
I commented on this article the other day.I wondered where it went.

Anyway, the scene in the first movie takes place in 1944.I'd say Magneto was 12/13, putting his birth at 1931/1932.The next scene with Rogue takes place in "the not too distant future".Now, it is not clear if "the not too distant future" is in reference to the Magneto scene, or to the real time year of 2000.So, we have no idea when the movie takes place.

As for his age in the first film, you have two options.If the movie truly takes place in 2000, then Magneto was 69.So he'd be about 54 fifteen years ago.But, if you go by the fact that we don't have any other definitive years, I say the character was the same age as the actor, which was 60/61.So, he'd be in his mid 40s.So, mid 40s or mid 50s.

And all of that is dependent upon them using any of the established continuity or if they'll start over.
marvelguy
marvelguy - 12/22/2009, 12:32 AM
Glad you mentioned the not too distant future line. More importantly, the mutant movie universe has not detailed whether mutants age normally, nor has it stated that the second and third movies are separated in the same years for the characters as for the audience.
The bottom line is this: do we want to see Magneto beaten and tortured in the Holocaust? Or is it the very end and he's able to summon his powers to protect the gypsies? This is all very dicey ground. The Holocaust (other than "Maus") isn't something for the comics. His origin isn't a mystery like Wolverine's. And should they go back, how much more will they twist up the comic books? To make it interesting they will need to introduce characters like Mr. Sinister, Black Tom, Banshee, and possibly allude to Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch. Why? To tie an out of continuity story into a movie set in the movie universe's present day. By the time the Magneto movie hits, it will be over a decade since it all started and the newer audience (action figure kids) can't be left in the dark.
If they want to keep it together, they should insert Mr. Sinister in some form, have some near entanglement with Wolverine, and have an immediate follow-up that ties all of this into a current X-Men/X-Factor/X-Force movie that would satiate all.
gibbyblaylock
gibbyblaylock - 12/22/2009, 12:44 AM
kenny and marvelguy, word up.

This may also raise a larger question about filmmakers incorporating scenes into the movies that date the characters. Movies like Superman or Spider-man stay relatively ambiguous when it comes to the era, but by making Magneto a holocaust survivor or by having Frank Castle be a viet nam vet or stuff like that in movies, the characters are bound to those timelines.
That's one cool thing about Wolverine, his power can always be used as a loophole to get around this problem.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 12/22/2009, 3:46 AM
WTF is this ED HARRIS for a [frick]ing X4!!!

CLIVE OWEN is born for MAGNETO in MAGNETO ORIGINS!!!





; D
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 12/22/2009, 3:46 AM
And who wants [frick]ing James Bond????!!!
1chris2
1chris2 - 12/22/2009, 4:19 AM
so i guess this takes place before the wolverine film since professor will be younger? professor was in wolverine and he was younger but not that young. and cyclops will not be in it if so.anyways i hope beak,angel salvador,husk,and chamber are in it.
Ugh
Ugh - 12/22/2009, 8:31 AM
I thought Singer said that the movie would take place during their 20's. In that case none of these guys would fit. And I'm surprised that no one has tossed Craig for Banshee. Seems like a good fit for the role.
Shaman
Shaman - 12/22/2009, 8:31 AM
Thanks for the plug, gibby!!! I'm glad i am right... again... *cough*cough* LMAO :P Basically, i just want "Brigadier General Francis X. Hummel, USMC" as Magneto. Is that too much to ask??? :))

LEEE- I love Clive for Mags as well but he is a bit young for "Frist Class". I think he'd be awesome if they ever decided to make his origin film. But for them to use Clive, they can't make Mags too young for the most part of his origin.
gibbyblaylock
gibbyblaylock - 12/22/2009, 9:18 AM
Shaman
No prob. Actually your Ed Harris suggestion was sort of the inspiration for the article because my initial thought was that Harris would be too old. But when I ran the numbers I found out that he was pretty close to the right age and in the process of doing so I had come up with this idea.

Bohemiben
I didn't know that about the traumatic event thing. That could definitely change some stuff.

Ugh
If Magneto is in his twenties in the movie, it would have to be set in the mid-to-late 1950s and Cyclops won't be born for another fifteen years or so.
Shaman
Shaman - 12/22/2009, 11:50 AM
Great work gibby ;)
Amalgam
Amalgam - 12/17/2010, 3:49 PM
X2 is also 15yrs after XMO:W because Stryker mentioned to Logan that it had been about 15rys, and X3 is a week or so after X2 according to X-Men The Game. That being said, Magneto is the same age in all 3 films.
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