Why Scarlet Witch and Qicksilver can be in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and without deviating from source material

Why Scarlet Witch and Qicksilver can be in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and without deviating from source material

Scarlet Witch and Qicksilver can be in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and without deviating from source material, but how? Read on to find out...

Editorial Opinion
By Ace101 - Jun 08, 2013 06:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic




Since the news of Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff and Quicksilver/Peitro Maximoff being set to appear in Marvel Studios Avengers Sequel was released last month (May 2013), the net was set ablaze with theories (and all the other words for ideas) as to how they could be introduced into the film and how they would explain their history, and if i may so with some shocker ideas that would have ventured far from source material; and why could marvel studios use these characters since the film rights of Marvels mutants belong to Fox Studios. Questions were raised about the word 'Mutant' and if Marvel Studios is even allowed to say it. I will address all these ideas and explain in this editorial why Scarlet Witch and Qicksilver can be in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and without altering source material, and hopefully put some people minds at ease on this issue.


The twins Scarlet Witch/ Wanda Maximoff and Quicksilver/ Peitro Maximoff can be in the Marvel Cinematic Universe(from here on out the MCU) WITHOUT HAVING THEIR HISTORY CHANGED AT ALL, the only thing they have to omit is mentioning Magneto is their father which is not important since, they did not know who there parents were for a number of years.
These two particular mutant characters lie in a 'Grey Zone' between Marvel Studios/ Disney and Fox Studios, which means either studio is allowed to use them but only if they follow certain rules. Fox can use them but can not mention anything avengers related and Marvel/Disney can use them but cannot mention anything of Magneto, the brotherhood of mutants and the x-men.
The word 'Mutant' is not owned by any singular company that requires others to ask permission in order to use the word in literature or film, it is a word that is freely used and unbound, therefore the twins can be called mutants in the Avengers sequel.

If that doesn't put you at ease, how about this, In the comics The Avengers #185-187 (Jul.-Sept. 1979) and Vision and the Scarlet Witch vol. 2, #1 - 12 (Oct. 1985 - Sept. 1986)the elder god Chthon AKA THE OTHER (who appeared in the Avengers) planted a part of his essence in Wanda/Scarlet Witch when she was but a child, whose mutation was transformed into the ability to manipulate chaos magic and probability and, later, to manipulate reality itself. Cthon had planned to use her as a vessel for his own demonic possession when she reached maturity, a vessel with both mutant and magical powers.This occurred whilst she was living beneath Mt. Wundagore, the home of the High Evolutionary and prison of Chthon. From which they are then cared for by Bova, An uplifted cow created by the High Evolutionary. They can involve the involvement of the Whizzer and Miss America in their history for however brief it was as well, The death of a pregnant miss America whilst giving birth to still bornes and Bova telling Whizzer that the twins are his children instead of telling him that his actual kids died. Until the time is right they would be considered (by the audience)there parents and could lead into a All Winners Squad/ Invaders movie. The the twins would then be put into the care of Romani Django and Marya Maximoff, until Wanda and Peitro are forced to flee from an angry mob when there powers manifest. There is a whole of history that predates any story with them knowing that magneto is their father. They can continue the mystery until the film rights to the X-Men come back and then they can unveil the mystery. No need for Terrigen Mists and Dr. Strange to explain their abilities and dramatically altering source material. To me there is more for them in the MCU than at Fox.
ALSO, they were the first new recruits into the Avengers, long before Black Widow, Black Panther, Ms Marvel and so on. Yes Yes Ant-man and Wasp couldn't be in part one but that was because Edgar wanted to do the movie justice and finish his of his other movies as well. The inclusion of Wanda's and Peitro in Avengers 2 will add great layers of character interaction and story development and open the doors to more unexplored regions of the MCU. If they were ever to face Ultron in battle only Wanda can disrupt his molecular device thing within him with her chaos magic, no one else can.

Thank you for reading my first editorial.
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MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 6/8/2013, 6:56 AM
Very nice article. The only people who don't want these two in the movie know nothing of thier history with the Avengers. You obviously know the history between these two and this is a great article.
MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 6/8/2013, 6:57 AM
Also on your point of the high evolutionary, that bring one person to mind....MAGUS! I strongly believe he will be the villian. I might write an article on why I think he will be.
CharlesLord
CharlesLord - 6/8/2013, 8:13 AM
Good article. I still go with my explanation, have someone ask them how did they get their powers, both of them give each other looks, and then one of them says "its complicated" and boom lol
marvel72
marvel72 - 6/8/2013, 8:57 AM
i'm cool with quicksilver & scarlet witch being in the avengers,what with them being long serving avengers.

i personally would of gone for vision & scarlet witch,then maybe ms.marvel in the third.
thenerdicon4
thenerdicon4 - 6/8/2013, 9:07 AM
I don't know anything about the characters and they seem so boring.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 6/8/2013, 11:39 AM
As I've said before, keep people who can't act, away from the MCU. Including Saoirse Ronan, unless you plan on killing her five minutes into her introduction. Now that I've said that for the thousandth time, this is a quite interesting way to put things. Whedon did say the villain is a him so, it could be the other and he could be the reason behind Scarlet Witch. If that's the case then, I'm up for it cause it's a way to do the character without deviating from the source material. I still don't find the character interesting though and I still say Quicksilver in two movies is a HUGE mistake and they should just scrap him from the movie. Think about it, it'll be confusing to the GA. I still prefer to have Black Panther in the movie.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 6/8/2013, 12:45 PM
@Alexander: Acting is about making the audience believe you're that character. Chris Hemsworth is a big guy so yeah, the characters he ends up playing are gonna be more aggressive. He was great in the Marvel movies, Cabin in the Woods and Snow White and the Huntsman. Here's a trailer for Rush, it's a Ron Howard movie meaning it's gonna be good.



Saoirse Ronan is a terrible actress. Hanna was bad, The Lovely Bones sucked and there are no words for how bad The Host is. She's the Alfonso Cuaron of actor's highly praised when is actually just flat out terrible.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 6/8/2013, 1:06 PM
@Alexander: No, I'm not one of those guys. I'm not a pig like a bunch of people on this site are. Personal life, yeah, I don't settle for less than a C. As far as actresses go, It's about how good of an actor they are. Can they convince me that they are this character or that character. Saoirse Ronan in my opinion can't act if her life depended on it.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 6/8/2013, 1:24 PM
Olivia Wilde would be my choice for Scarlet Witch. She's beautiful, talented and would do the character justice.



Much better fit. Also, to answer your question: Joss Whedon still wouldn't be a bad director. Saoirse Ronan would be his first miscast. If you're going to have Ronan in a Marvel movie, have her be a civilian who gets killed in a big battle. That would be worth watching, at least it would be putting her "talents" to use and she'd get to be in a Marvel movie.
SonOfOdor
SonOfOdor - 6/8/2013, 2:31 PM
It's pretty easy....don't mention dad, don't say the word mutant
NovaCorpsFan
NovaCorpsFan - 6/8/2013, 3:32 PM
I wrote an editorial last month about this topic with alot of the points you mention here. My theory on the whole spectrum of their backstory was this:
Lee Pace is High Evolutionary in GoTG
Aftr his defeat, he retreats through time and space to Wundagore mountain
Whizzer and Ms. Amrica turn up at Wundagore at the start of A2.
Quick and Scarlet are born and raised by Bova.
(The Whizzer and Ms. America thing happens in the eighties).

Although you present a few more points than I did in my editorial. Well done on the write up.
NovaCorpsFan
NovaCorpsFan - 6/8/2013, 3:40 PM
Of course that can't happen now because I reckon A2 will combine Dissassembled with the Korvac saga. The Collector in GoTG and Joss refusing to use any other characters beside SW and QS just makes me wonder.
Ace101
Ace101 - 6/8/2013, 4:10 PM
@MrCBM56 thanks a lot. Oh and i agree he might either be villian GotG or SPOILER!! however since the badoon were mentioned in thor tdw prelude comic as going into civil war after the bifrost was destroyed and that their bloodlust will spread to other planets if not kept in check, im now thinking they might play a big role in the GotG like they did in the formation of the original team which would lead into the korvac saga, i have a feeling GotG will be a combination of the original baddon invasion, annihilation and some aspects of the beginning of the korvac saga. Perhaps magus is in GotG 2. High Evolutionary- HIM-Adam Warlock - magus
Ace101
Ace101 - 6/8/2013, 4:22 PM
@NovaCorpsfan thanks a lot and i think i actually recall reading your article now that you mention it. What you wrote must have stayed with me subconsiously lol. I think the first time will see the high evolutionary is in GotG when Adam Warlock makes his first apperence.
Ace101
Ace101 - 6/8/2013, 4:29 PM
@VIRILEMAN and @CharlestheIncredible that would probably be fine for when they first meet but eventually they are going to show some history of these 2 and id rather it stick close to the source material than deviate and say they got their abilities from the terrigen mists.
Ace101
Ace101 - 6/8/2013, 4:32 PM
@Crossbones YES 100% agree with your choice, Olivia Wilde for Scarlet witch. XD
superherofan21
superherofan21 - 6/8/2013, 6:41 PM
I think they're most likely going with something along the lines of what you're describing. You're correct in saying that in the comics, they didn't know they were Magneto's kids for a long time. They can easily say that they have no clue of their lineage, but were somehow born with their abilities. I honestly don't think the word "mutant" should be used in the movie. I think Fox would jump at any opportunity to go after Marvel Studios for any sort of breach in contractual agreements, and I think that using the term would only complicate things between the two studios.
Ace101
Ace101 - 6/8/2013, 6:52 PM
@Superherofan21 thanks, yea your likely right about the mutant thing. Perhaps the word mutant in a marvel context can only be used at fox.
MoonDoggyX
MoonDoggyX - 6/8/2013, 8:02 PM
Great article! I think its crappy that there weren't any clues in Iron man 3... Unless they turn Jarvis into Utron... The way he was controlling those suits, kinda makes sense...
Ace101
Ace101 - 6/8/2013, 9:59 PM
@MoonDoggyX cheers XD yea, im thinking jarvis will be manipulated by ultron when the time comes like in the comics Avengers #54-58(1968), the first appearance of ultron and his masters of Evil.
Odin
Odin - 6/9/2013, 7:40 AM
Time will show, I wouldn't mind at all, if they were presented as inhumans.
MoonDoggyX
MoonDoggyX - 6/9/2013, 12:40 PM
@unibeam - Damn! Ur right! No one has even though of that. At least haven't said it yet. Nice thinking! Im pretty sure marvel can use the worm mutant all they want, they just can't refer to any x-men properties... Or anything that associated with x-men, likenesses, etc...

Quicksilver an sw are a grey area, not a loophole because of their long history with the avengers. Judging how avengers 1 was, we won't have a lot of time for their back stories...
Tymminator
Tymminator - 8/11/2013, 9:30 PM
Solid article.
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