X-Men First Class. Better than The Dark Knight

X-Men First Class. Better than The Dark Knight

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By AJVersatility19 - Nov 17, 2011 05:11 PM EST
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Ok, hi everyone, haven't posted any articles in a while because I had nothing to write. Warning, this is going to take a while... bare with me. Just remember it'll take you a lot less time reading this than I did writing it.

But let's get right into it. The headline to this article I didn't just write up to gain attention or interest, I mean if it does, then well good for me, but I really do stand by that.

In arguments, when I tell someone that First Class is better than The Dark Knight, of course no one takes me seriously, and they wouldn't even be interested in my reasoning, and even if they were, I couldn't tell them my reasons in just a couple of sentences, I have to literally write it for them. So I'll do just that.

The Dark Knight is in the realm of movie "Untouchables," a category I place movies in because of people's feelings for them, when you say something bad about the movies in that category, no one's gonna take you seriously, they wouldn't even listen to you. Maybe they're afraid you're right, or maybe they're just too stubborn, but either way it's never any harm to listen to someone's opinion.

Why do movies go into my category of "Untouchables"? Simple. Hype. That is all. Other movies in that category for me are Inception and James Cameron's Avatar. There's literally nothing bad you can say about those movies that anyone would listen to. Because of the hype. I mean if I asked someone to write for me a full report of why they loved Inception, Avatar or The Dark Knight, many of them wouldn't be able to, or if they did it'll take them a few hours to really think about it, but yet when I ask what's the best movie ever, within half a second, I hear the response "Inception, Dark Knight, Avatar... " and so on. It's all just hype. If they really felt like those movies are the best, then they could give me a reason, other than it's action or effects and what not. Me personally, I love The Dark Knight, and Inception (Avatar, I absolutely hate), but I see those two as movies, and not the hype they're surrounded by, in example nobody wants to admit that Inception has the same exact basis as The Matrix, even though it's so painfully obvious, even Christopher Nolan mentioned The Matrix as one of the inspirations when he wrote the script.

I feel like after the release of those movies, everything that comes afterward has no chance to compete with them, because the comparison will not be taken seriously. That's where First Class came in. I followed the production of this movie every closely. They announced three movies after X-Men The Last Stand. One was X-Men Origins: Wolverine (which is the one everyone focused on) X-Men Origins: Megneto(which was canceled and instead incorporated in First Class) and X-Men: First Class, which was supposed to be about Professor X and his gather of the X-Men, but i guess they realized they couldn't do this without Magneto, so they put the two movies together. When Origins Wolverine flopped, which it did, I focused on First Class and followed it throughout. Back in April, I worked for my school's Magazine as a movie writer, they wanted me to focus on hyping up upcoming movies. So I wrote about Thor, Captain America, First Class and The Adventures of Tintin.

When I got into writing my article for First Class, going through the production, I concluded that this was going to be the best X-Men movie. Because of the cast they chose, James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender, and Kevin Bacon. Their cast looked a lot better than the Wolverine cast. Of course back then it was just a perception that I had. No real reasoning.

When the movies came out, after those 2 hours and change, I went home right away and re-watched The Dark Knight. Why? Because in the race for best comic book movie, The Dark Knight had the lead. Even for me. And i felt like First Class was better, and it happens to all of us where the last movie you saw is always the one you think is the best. So i re-watched The Dark Knight, and the movies, in terms of theme and character built were very similar. The one thing I loved about The Dark Knight was its justice for Batman, because he's not a lovable popular hero that Superman is, he's a public hated vigilante that has 10x more enemies than friends. And his decision at the end of the movie to take the blame for Harvey's death finally gave justice to his character, because now everyone does hate him, even if it's for something he didn't do, but for something he let happen, because we can all agree that entire movie was his fault.

But even so, First Class had many of the aspects that made The Dark Knight popular, to movie critics not to their fans. And those aspects are, great acting, great character development and good theme. In comparison, X-Men Origins: Wolverine had adequate acting, horrible character development, and pretty good theme. Let's focus on character development for this post because that's where I see First Class has the edge on The Dark Knight. For Wolverine, besides Logan and maybe Gambit, no other character had any substance. His brother maybe, be he was a typical hardheaded villain that does what he does because he loves to hurt people. Gambit well, he had NO character development, but he did has like 12min for screen time, whereas literally everyone else just dies within 30seconds of displaying their powers. Even Gambit went from badass who kicked Wolverine's ass to just just a pilot who drops him off within 10 min. They just wanted to show off these character's moves and them write them out 10min later.

The Dark Knight has great character development, every character was important. Not just Batman and The Joker, but Harvey Dent, Rachel Dawes, Alfred, and even commish Gordon. They all played a major role in the climax of the movie, and what happened to one affected the rest. Another movie that completely ignores this concept is Captain America, besides Rodgers, NOBODY else is important, not even that red face skull guy. He was the most boring villain I've ever seen in a movie. First Class also had that concept, where the central characters aren't the only focus. I mean sure you expected Prof X and Magneto to have importance in the movie, but everyone else was just as important. Mystique of all people played a major role. So that's where the argument begins on who did it better, The Dark Knight or First Class. Well to me, First Class. I know Heath Ledger's performance was the best and that also adds to the hype on why The Dark Knight is untouchable. Some people have even said that the only reason TDK was this good was because of The Joker, which is complete bull, the movie is a lot more than just that. Michael Fassbender did just as good a job playing Magneto that Heath Ledger played The Joker, of course The Joker is a whole lot harder to play, but in terms of playing to the full potential of the character, they both did a great job. So to me, character development of the supporting actors(The Joker, and Magneto) is a tie between the two movies. Now let's look at the main characters, development of The Batman vs Prof X. Well from when he was a kid to his wheelchaired self right now, prof X was the exact same person, his views about the world and about the mutants were the same and stayed that way. His role just developed that made him a key member in their world. As for Bruce Wayne, he was confused, as to what his role is and what he has to do. He still hasn't accepted what he must do as Batman. Alfred was my favorite character in the movie. He was that no nonsense guy that told Bruce the truth because Bruce wouldn't accept it. Alfred since the beginning of the movie warned Bruce that if he continues what he does, things will go bad. And he also goes on to telling him, people will die, and those are the people closest to him. Also The Joker has been telling him that the people of Gotham, in their darkest hour will turn on Batman and hate him. Bruce didn't accept any of that until the very end of the movie where he finally accepted his place as a "hero" and what he has to do. Which is "Die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." and "because he's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one he needs right now." So the battle between Batman and Prof X is in favor for Batman, his character was a lot more developed and way more battle tested. So right now it's TDK 1,First Class 0.

Now here is where First Class takes the lead. The movies itself takes on many aspects of human nature, like revenge, love, redemption, the battle between "Right" and "Wrong." and so on. The Dark Knight correlates mainly to one nature, which is the battle between what's right and what's wrong. Bruce was trying to do the "right" thing from the start, which is save everybody, which we all know, in the real world, is impossible. The Joker knew it, Alfred knew it, Bruce didn't wanna accept it. Until it was too late. Us in the real world, at least I do, know that you have to do what's necessary for the moment, and there are going to be consequences that you just have to live with. And that was the point of The Dark Knight that Bruce Wayne finally realized at the end, whether or not he will live by that in the next movie is up for grabs because the death of Heath Ledger really put a dent in the whole production of the movie. They had to change everything about the 3rd installation because his character just can't be reinstated. So expect an okay movie for The Dark Knight Rises. I think it'll be hard to follow up from the end of The Dark Knight, without The Joker. So anyway, that's all, that whole Dark Knight movie was mainly about right and wrong, and what Batman has/had to do.

As for First Class it tackles on more human nature. At this point you can realize that this is the most important aspect of a movie for me. This is what I look for. None of the special effects, none of the great action or beautiful actors. No. The substance. So yea, Erik(Magneto) was an emotionally driven psychopath to begin the movie. Because he was a holocaust jew, whose parents were killed, his mother killed in front of him, and he wanted revenge. We all can relate, not about the dead mothers, but to being emotionally driven at some point in our lives, because we didn't know any better. Towards the middle of the movie, Erik was trying to find himself as to who he is and what his role is in life, because he lived a majority of his life just thinking about revenge and killing the one who killed his mother. Prof X helped him see that there's more to life that just that, and that he has a gift that can help people just as easily as it could hurt them. But because he was psychologically impaired through years of mental torture, he didn't see life that way. Again, some of us can relate to that, not knowing who you are in life and what it is you're meant for. Also having a certain skill that you decide to waste, not by killing people of course, but by keeping it hidden and not exploiting it further. Many people are shy of what they do and they decide to keep it secret.

At the end of the movie, Erik becomes "awoken," the years of torture and hatred he had in his head and heart was just too much to take out. Prof X tried to help him, and even he tried to help himself, but all those memories and experiences just can't be held down. And it overtook him. He becomes a villain because he's already grown to hate every normal human for what they did to him, and their ignorance of the world they live in. That's a theory in psychology that suggests that many bad people are made, not born. What happened to them growing up made them who they are now, the sanctions other people put on them stunned their brain development, and they couldn't properly grown up. They weren't born killers. They were made that way.

Prof X was a lot like Bruce Wayne, he wants to help everybody. And he sorta has the ability to, but there's a difference between forcing people by your abilities to doing something, than to make them believe in the idea. Prof X tried to make them believe in the idea, he wouldn't force them to change their minds, because you can't do that. So he saves those that he can, and those that are too stubborn, he tried anyway, and he doesn't grown to hate them. In other words, he's the "ideal" human being who accepts people for who they are, and will try to help them but not by force.

I won't get into the many human natures that each movie brings, but First Class takes on a lot more than the Dark Knight. Of course it has to do with the kind of people that are in the movie, but The Dark Knight's messaged were limited. Writing a character for a movie takes a lot of time and thought, it's easier for comic book adapted movies to do this because the character has already been written for them, but the writer of First Class I felt really went beyond just the Mutant vs Humans, and X-Mem vs Brotherhood theme that the first 4 X-Men movies had. The Dark Knight also went beyond just Batman vs the world, and Batman vs The Joker theme, but at a lesser extent than First Class. First Class is more thorough, more expanded and more thoughtful than The Dark Knight.

I certainly believe that it's better than The Dark Knight. Even if it's just slightly. And if you don't, I hope you have something better to tell me on why you think so other than "No it's not" or "It's just better"

Because I know movies.

So thanks for reading, any follow ups on the points I put above will be elaborated upon request. I know I left a lot of things out, but I felt I was at least fair in talking equally about both movies.

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BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 11/17/2011, 6:34 PM
I respect the argument you made, but I still disagree. I acknowledge that some of my resistance to your argument is because of the mentioned untouchable factor that TDK has for me, but I believe there are concrete points to base the argument for its superiority. Yes, the central theme of TDK is the right and wrong morality of Bruce and his struggle with the complications of that. However, the film has other focuses that you seem to overlook. I can't name them all but here are some:

The truth: the ending of the movie in which Alfred hides the truth about Rachel from Bruce and Bruce and Gordon lie about Harvey. The idea that a there are times when people "deserve more than the truth," to have their faith rewarded is an interesting one and as the ending of the film, its importance can't be ignore.

The Joker's "part of the plan" speech in which he talks about how the death of a soldier is accepted but, when certain people are killed society does not know how to react, is something I haven't seen brought up in any other movie.

Bruce's surveillance equipment and Lucious Fox's issue with its invassion of privacy adds another layer to the morality theme of questioning immoral means in the service of a moral goal.

Moving on from that, while First Class does manage to develop its supporting cast well, it isn't quite on par with TDK in that area. Xavier's relationship with Moira MacTaggert was quite underdeveloped. Unless I'm mistaken, TDK doesn't really have any glaring weaknesses like that. The nature of the ensemble cast meant that characters like Havok, Banshee, and Azazel weren't given much material. While it is arguable that Fassbender played Erik to his potential, that doesn't erase the fact that what Ledger put on screen was much more captivating, unique, and memorable.

Aside from the films as a whole, TDK managed to deliver several fantastic scenes and moments that I really don't need to list. While Charles' paralysis and his meeting with Erik were both great, I don't believe First Class is able to match up to TDK in the umph of scene category.

I also feel like the plot of TDK is more of a ride, taking you in unexpected directions and keeping you guessing. The bank robbery, faking Gordon's deahth, Rachel's death/Joker's escape, the boats, the hostage situation. First Class tells a good story, but it felt more conventional in the sense that I could settle in more and anticipate much more easily where things were going.

Again, I respect your opinion and would love to continue debating so fire back with counter-arguments if you want to.
AJVersatility19
AJVersatility19 - 11/17/2011, 7:04 PM
Yes i forgot to mention Alfred's decision to withdraw the letter from Bruce when he was still ignorant to Rachel's decision in picking Harvey over him, and then subsequently burning the letter right as Gordon said "sometimes people don't deserve the truth, they deserve to have their faith rewarded." That's the one clip I would never forget, and idk how it slipped my mind in this article. Also didn't mention Joker's chaos theory, which is very valid in theory and principle, like the overall them of V for Vendetta(also a favorite movie of mine.) Also Lucius' decision to quit the company, moreso than Bruce's decision to spy on everyone, because that showed his lack of control and Lucius' decision was the powerful point.

I tried to be as subtle as possible when comparing Fassbender and Ledger's performances, I think I made a point that Ledger's impact is the only thing that sets them apart, when i said that The Joker is a lot harder to play. I want everyone to disregard that Ledger won the Oscar, and that Ledger died, and that he probably put on the best one man performance in the likes of Marlon Brando(On The Waterfront), Dustin Hoffman(Midnight Cowboy) and Daniel Day-Lewis(There Will Be Blood). But as far as playing to a character's potential, Fassbender did a great job.

In First Class I feel like Magneto at the end when he's about to blow up the fleet was as climactic as any scene in the Dark Knight, in terms of emotion. It's not the only climactic scene of course, but it was the most powerful one, next to the submarine pulling one. At that moment in the movie I REALLLLY wanted him to blow it up, because his character was very well developed and acted well enough to draw me into his character and I really felt his emotions.

But all sentiments aside, First Class i took seriously throughout. Because in movies, I look for times where I laugh when I'm not supposed to, cry when I'm not supposed to, and so on. All that pertains to the actor's portrayal. And aside for Batman's comical deep voice, no other places in either movie that I couldn't take seriously.

I forgot to mention anticipation and guessing games. I'm sure Nolan has a reputation already that you can never guess what's gonna happen next in his movies. Yea, my mistake for leaving out that important fact.

And well, damn. You pretty much just evened it up for me. No more arguments from my side. But one thing I gotta say is, I don't want this article to seem like I'm downgrading the Dark Knight, I love the movie and always will. If I left out anything it's not because I hate the movie or disregarded the factors.

This article is more of a promotion of First Class, not a demotion of The Dark Knight. I love both movies, but because of most of the point I pointed above, I feel like First Class, if not on top of The Dark Knight, certainly isn't on the bottom.

If after reading the article it's still unclear to some why First Class to me was more complete and thorough than TDK. Then I just can't put it in further words, I've pointed out my points and I hope everyone can see them.
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 11/17/2011, 7:17 PM
I agree that First Class deserves a lot of credit that fanboys wont give it due to it screwing up the movie series continuity and not sticking closely to the comics. I've only seen it once compared to the 3 times I've seen TDK, so maybe in time I'll rate it closer. Good argument though.
AlexdoxA
AlexdoxA - 11/18/2011, 7:58 AM
There's just one thing I don't get... wasn't the guy who killed his mother, tortured and Tested Magneto mom also a mutant? why the hate towards all the humanity and the love for mutants then?
AlexdoxA
AlexdoxA - 11/18/2011, 7:58 AM
tested magneto, not his mom, hahaha
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 11/18/2011, 12:09 PM
@AlexdoxA, Magneto has a personal vendetta against Sebastian Shaw since he killed his mother. He takes that suffering out on the Nazis he hunts down. However, when he sees that mutants are a group being persecuted the way the Jews were, that anger shifts somewhat towards humans who he sees as the current threat to his people.
AJVersatility19
AJVersatility19 - 11/18/2011, 3:55 PM
@Fitz3241 i tried to go away from the general aspects. Like love and hate. I mean maybe it's not fair for one movie to another if love and hate is the main aspect. But literally EVERY movie will have those 2 aspects guaranteed. It takes much more mind to go further into the psychological notion of humans, like TDK did with Joker's character portraying himself more of an idea than a person.

Redemption I think goes more into The Dark Knight Rises than TDK because at the end he was just beginning to lose respect and faith from the people. The end was the ultimate "ok i'm going to be the bad guy" Redemption will now come in the next movie. Having the word "Rise" in the title is no coincidence either.

@AlexdoxA yea BIGBMH pretty much said it. At the beginning of the movie, he wasn't even interested in humans. He spent 20 years of his life just focused on Shaw and the Nazis. It wasn't until he met Xavier that his hatred for humans grew. Because he has experienced first hand what prosecution of one group feels like, so he has sort of an insight at what the humans will do when they come to realize the existence of Mutants.
MercMatt
MercMatt - 11/18/2011, 8:37 PM
Good read. Enjoyed your article. I have to say that, even tho I love both movies, I find that I've watched First Class a lot more. It's, imo, the best out of every X-Men movie that's been released and it is better at reeling me into it's story. Cheers!
AJVersatility19
AJVersatility19 - 11/19/2011, 1:34 PM
@Fitz3241 Well I continued to talk about the aspects in greater detail, and in doing that I did not mention the aspect of love or hate. When i detailed the aspects in a paragraph for each movie, I left out love and hate for both of them. Because it's not important. I can see where I seemed contradicting, so it's my fault for even mentioning them. Since I only mentioned them when talking about First Class. Bias, I guess.

And I agree they both delivered and very well balanced.

@MercMatt Yea man, I enjoyed the first X-Men movie and the Second even more. But the third kinda showed where they were going. I mean the plot aside, they changed the characters so drastically. Cyclops dies in the first scene, Wolverine goes from confused bad ass, to love struck hero. I mean that's the transition some people expected and wanted for Logan, but not me.

As MercMatt just said, when Dark Knight came out, that's the one movie, of the 5-6 movies that I watched over and over again. Not only because it takes a while to grasp everything that goes on in the film, but because it's a damn good movie.

When First Class came out, I started watching that a lot more. I mean, it's probably because I've worn out TDK and First Class is fresh off the venue. But other than the article above, there's no other worded reason why I seem to enjoying watching First Class more. It could be personal effect.

The article itself isn't complete, because there's a lot I left out. From both movies. As Alex and BIGBMH stated. But I still hoped this article was enough to get my point across.
TheWingedWonder
TheWingedWonder - 11/22/2011, 8:12 PM
My eyes hurt for staring at the computer screen for so long @.@
AJVersatility19
AJVersatility19 - 11/24/2011, 7:24 PM
Apologies :/ but hey. I have sensitive eyes too. Even if it's not staring for too long, my eyes hurt from just looking at my phone screen for a minute. Needless to be said, the brightness on my computer never goes above 50%.
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