FANTASTIC FOUR: Marvel Studios Rumored To Have Big AVENGERS Plans For Another Reed Richards Variant

FANTASTIC FOUR: Marvel Studios Rumored To Have Big AVENGERS Plans For Another Reed Richards Variant

Pedro Pascal will play Reed Richards in The Fantastic Four: First Steps, and it sounds like he'll have some company in the next Avengers movies courtesy of Fantastic Four star Ioan Gruffudd. Check it out!

By JoshWilding - Dec 29, 2024 10:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

In today's What If...? finale, it's revealed that The Watcher has intervened in many realities and saved Variants of Steve Rogers, Riri Williams, and Reed Richards. 

We've already met one alternate version of Mister Fantastic in the MCU; in 2022's Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, John Krasinski played a Reed who had joined Earth-838's Illuminati. However, his time in the role was short-lived after the Scarlet Witch popped his head like a balloon. 

Pedro Pascal will play the MCU's main Mister Fantastic in The Fantastic Four: First Steps but it sounds like he'll have some company in Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars

According to The Cosmic Circus' Alex Perez, there may be plans in place for Fantastic Four and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer star Ioan Gruffudd to reprise the role of Reed. He'd later hint that the Variants left stranded in The Void will be key to the return of familiar faces, something that makes sense when the prevailing theory is that it essentially becomes "Battleworld."

The scooper also reiterated past claims that we'll see the Council of Reeds assemble in the next Avengers movies. That makes sense with Doctor Doom set to serve the role of the MCU's new big bad, of course. 

In the comics, the Interdimensional Council of Reeds is an organization composed of multiversal counterparts of Reed Richards, specifically those who developed interdimensional portal tech called the Bridge. They gathered together to "solve everything," but members had to leave their families to join.

The Council was founded by a trio of Infinity Gauntlet–wielding Reeds: Reed-12498, Reed-98570, and Reed-99107.

"I would love that," Gruffudd said of a possible MCU role in 2018. "I just don't know, in that universe, the Marvel world, would they let me play something else? I'm so renowned for Fantastic Four. But a couple of actors have [made the leap]."

"I'm sure for Marvel it was a tough decision to pick Chris to play that part [Captain America] because he'd already played one superhero, but what a brilliant decision it was, because he's wonderful," the Welsh actor continued. "And Michael B Jordan has played Johnny Storm and he's amazing in Black Panther as well, so there are precedents set. So we'll see."

"Maybe [I could play] a baddie, this time? Now that I've established myself as somebody who can do that, that would be great."

A villainous Mister Fantastic might fit the bill...

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AC1
AC1 - 12/29/2024, 10:09 AM
Ooh idk if I buy this rumour but having him come back and eventually become a big screen version of The Maker after his reality was destroyed and his family were killed (most recently Johnny) would be an interesting direction
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/29/2024, 10:12 AM
@AC1 - that could be cool but I honestly see Miles Teller weirdly out the live action Reeds the most as The Maker.

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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/29/2024, 11:13 AM
@AC1 - Miles Teller would be a better choice imo, since his movie as an adaptation of Ultimate Fantastic Four was basically the origin of The Maker.
AC1
AC1 - 12/29/2024, 11:27 AM
@TheVisionary25 @ObserverIO - all fair points, I think both actors could pull it off and handle a villainous turn well, I think the only reason I'd still give Ioan a slight edge would be that I think audiences probably have more familiarity with his version of Reed and thus that descent into madness and villainy might be more effective. But if either were to come back as The Maker I'd be cool with it.

Or both? Maybe the entire Council of Reeds has turned evil and Pedro's the only good Reed left 😅
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/29/2024, 12:03 PM
@AC1 - He could be a Reed that now bears the mantle of Doctor Doom like in Earth X.
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AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 12/30/2024, 5:51 AM
@ObserverIO - but miles teller suckkkkkkkkss
defenderofthefaith
defenderofthefaith - 12/29/2024, 10:12 AM
If they bring Gruffudd back I can see them bring Alba back as well. Since they are a couple and likely will be together.
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 12/29/2024, 10:14 AM
4 mister fantastics for the win
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 12/29/2024, 10:14 AM
oh yes
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OptimusCrime
OptimusCrime - 12/29/2024, 10:25 AM
@harryba11zack - What the hell man!🤣
Slotherin
Slotherin - 12/29/2024, 10:56 AM
@harryba11zack - you're increasingly becoming one of my favorite users here
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 12/29/2024, 10:59 AM
@harryba11zack - Mr. “Fantastic” looks like he can’t be within 50 yards of a middle school
Gambito
Gambito - 12/29/2024, 11:57 AM
@harryba11zack - smartest clickbaiter alive
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 12/29/2024, 10:21 AM
Gruffudd would've made for a great Victor Von Doom
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/29/2024, 10:29 AM
Was it ever confirmed that Ioan was suppose to be Earth 838’s original Reed before they got Krasinski instead?.

Anyway , I thought it was implied in DP & W that the Johnny we saw in that ( who may or may not be the one from the Tim Story films) was the last surviving member of the four till then…

If so then I don’t see Ioan being his Reed but considering there are infinite versions out there , we could see one that also happens to look like Ioan show up in the Void during the Avengers films (if that indeed does become Battleworld)…

Regardless , I’m down for it since I found his performance & take on Reed to be enjoyable personally!!.

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DREAMER
DREAMER - 12/29/2024, 10:45 AM
Unrelated question but is there a possibility that you’ll get rid of Pedro and we'll see the council of Reed in this saga by any chance?
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 12/29/2024, 1:55 PM
@folieaturd - At least wait for the F4 movie before for ruling out Pedro damn
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 12/29/2024, 10:46 AM
I'm not putting any stock in story details, but I wouldn't be surprised if a Council of Reeds is gonna show up at one point. And I hope all four previous live-action Reeds are on it.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/29/2024, 10:47 AM
@bkmeijer1 - that would be cool!!.

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DocSpock
DocSpock - 12/29/2024, 10:48 AM

This a bad idea cramming in an actor from the horrible Fox FF.

Too much of this nonsense will just bog the movie down.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 12/29/2024, 1:57 PM
@DocSpock - The movies were not great, but he wasn't the problem though, if anything he was probably the best thing about them
evilbastard
evilbastard - 12/29/2024, 10:59 AM
The one thing I want in Secret Wars is for M.O.D.O.K to find an injured Lady Thor and vows to protect her.
Nonameforme
Nonameforme - 12/29/2024, 11:12 AM
I'm really over the variants.
Spike101
Spike101 - 12/29/2024, 11:36 AM
This done right could be good.
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 12/29/2024, 2:11 PM
I have an idea. Why can't we just do Secret Wars the way it was in the comics? This is why I hate this RDJ Doom.

I was a fan of the 2015 run but nothing beats the original.
Corruptor
Corruptor - 12/29/2024, 3:01 PM
Kindly shove all your variants up your unimaginative asses, without lubrication.

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