Giancarlo Esposito Drops Biggest Hint Yet About MCU Role - Is Doctor Doom Finally Coming?

Giancarlo Esposito Drops Biggest Hint Yet About MCU Role - Is Doctor Doom Finally Coming? Giancarlo Esposito Drops Biggest Hint Yet About MCU Role - Is Doctor Doom Finally Coming?

Better Call Saul star Giancarlo Esposito has talked more about his mystery MCU role, and despite theories about an animated Norman Osborn, there's reason to believe it's someone a little more...fantastic!

By JoshWilding - May 26, 2024 11:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

Breaking Bad and The Boys star Giancarlo Esposito recently revealed he's joined the Marvel Cinematic Universe in a mystery role. A few hours ago, a rumour cropped up claiming he'll star in a Disney+ TV series and the actor himself has now confirmed that is indeed the case. 

"The MCU has knocked on my door and it's a role you won’t predict," Esposito told fans during a recent convention appearance. "It will be teased and there will be a series afterwards."

This appears to debunk theories he'll voice Norman Osborn in Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man as there's nowhere for that villain to be teased before the animated series launches on the streamer either this year or next. 

Interestingly, the fan who shared these updates adds that when someone mentioned to Esposito that he'd make an "excellent" Doctor Doom in The Fantastic Four, he mentioned "talking it into existence and making yourself believe in it." What could that mean?

It's at this point we need to remind you about previous reports regarding Doom being introduced in The Fantastic Four's post-credits scene before taking centre stage in a Disney+ series. The latter would presumably set the stage for Latveria's ruler to appear in the sequel.

Now, with Esposito talking about being teased before a TV show follows, it's hard to shake the feeling that Marvel Studios has found its Doom. Marvel Studios is believed to have at least considered the possibility of making him the Multiverse Saga's new big bad.

Keep checking back here for updates as we have them. 

Marvel Studios has announced that Pedro Pascal (Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic), Vanessa Kirby (Sue Storm/Invisible Woman), Joseph Quinn (Johnny Storm/Human Torch), and Ebon Moss-Bachrach (Ben Grimm/The Thing) will lead The Fantastic Four cast. Julia Garner has also joined the reboot as Shalla-Bal/Silver Surfer.

Recent additions to the cast include Paul Walter Hauser, John Malkovich, and Natasha Lyonne in mystery roles, along with Ralph Ineson as the villainous Galactus.

Director Matt Shakman worked with both Avatar: The Way of Water co-writer Josh Friedman and WandaVision's Cam Squires on The Fantastic Four's screenplay, with Eric Pearson (Black Widow) recently coming on board for a final polish.

The movie is set to be released in theaters on July 25, 2025.

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HermanM
HermanM - 5/26/2024, 11:43 AM
Doctor Doom is a white person....he's literally an evil caricature of a European monarch. Giancarlo Esposito is a mixed half black guy, why not cast him as a character he can accurately represent?
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 5/26/2024, 11:56 AM
@HermanM - The same could be said about Heimdall when they race swapped the character by having Idris play him. It turned out really well in the end. FF is no stranger to race swapping because they did the same thing with Johnny storm in the last reboot. Also if Doom keeps his mask on for 100% of his screen time then I don’t think it’s a big deal. Personally I’m neutral about race swapping characters. I don’t think it’s big deal. As long as the character is well written and the actor nails the core essence and spirit of the character, that’s all that matters. Storm is my favourite X-men character and comicbook character overall. If Disney decided to race swap and have a white woman play her, I wouldn’t be jumping for joy but at the same time, I’d be intrigued. I like a challenge, I’m openminded and as long as said white actress (hypothetically) nails the essence of storm down pact, I’d accept it.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 5/26/2024, 11:56 AM
@HermanM - Doom's mom is canonically a romani, so he isn't 100% white himself.
HermanM
HermanM - 5/26/2024, 11:58 AM
@FinnishDude - Romani are white.
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 5/26/2024, 12:00 PM
@FinnishDude - 👍🏿👊🏿
HermanM
HermanM - 5/26/2024, 12:00 PM
@TheMetaMan - OK so you have no problem with Storm, Blade, Black Panther, Cyborg, or any other nonwhite character being played by a white person then?

Just making note for if it ever happens (even though it won't since the race replacings are only done to white people 90% of the time)
HermanM
HermanM - 5/26/2024, 12:02 PM
@FinnishDude - Gypsies aren't black, either
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 5/26/2024, 12:03 PM
@HermanM - Studies show that Romani originate from India
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 5/26/2024, 12:08 PM
@HermanM - POC characters usually have being a POC as a major part of their character. 99% white characters are white just because that's the "norm" and changing their ethnicity has zero effect on their story.

Black Panther can't be white, because being the ruler of isolated and highly traditional African country is a major part of his backstory.

Doom was not born to royalty, basically every version of his backstory has him overthrowing the original ruler of Latveria, so there's no reason for him to be/look traditionally European.
MG0019
MG0019 - 5/26/2024, 12:08 PM
@HermanM - Yeah, let’s do it.

If we wanna get to the whole diversity and colorblind utopia; yeah let’s make a white Cyborg, or better yet Black Panther.

Imagine the story.

A white man is the king of Wakanda. How would they ostracize him? How would the characters treat him differently? How did he get there. Those are story hooks dripping with potential.

Sadly no one will do it tho.
HermanM
HermanM - 5/26/2024, 12:13 PM
@FinnishDude - If race matters for nonwhite characters, it certainly matters for white characters too. White characters are created by white people in white countries in stories they made up told on devices they invented because they are expressions of white people. Whites are less than 9% of the world population, yet have to justify being accurately portrayed in their own media while nonwhite characters do not have to justify being portrayed accurately.
HermanM
HermanM - 5/26/2024, 12:14 PM
@FinnishDude - Some Gypsies do, but Romani people are white. They're Slavic. From Romania.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 5/26/2024, 12:15 PM
@HermanM - fuggit, I'll bite. Who is your #1 pick for Dr. Doom?
Origame
Origame - 5/26/2024, 12:25 PM
@HermanM - cast someone who looks like the character and makes sense for the role? That only applies to poc characters. If they're white, it's free real estate.

Isn't that right Anne boleyn?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Boleyn_(TV_series)
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 5/26/2024, 12:29 PM
@HermanM - No I don’t. Im the only black person I know who literally doesn’t see “colours” but sees the soul, the spirit. I don’t care about race, gender etc. I care about the soul behind the identity, the character at their core. They can make Blade, Black Panther, Storm, Cyborg all white and I’d still watch such interpretations. What’s important to me is the character’s personality, their abilities and their morality. Ethnicity and gender come last. If they do make James Bond a woman, I’ll watch it. I don’t ever knock something until I’ve tried it. I never judge a book by its cover. Unfortunately not everyone thinks the same way. When it comes to ethnicity, appearance, gender etc, I have a benevolent or neutral POV. I seek to enhance my level of intelligence beyond the 3D realm. I hope we can all evolve one day and learn to accept one another and embrace universal love for everything that exists. One can hope.
HermanM
HermanM - 5/26/2024, 12:30 PM
@Origame - exactly. Non white characters must remain nonwhite and we are told race defines them, while anyone can be white, we are told. It is just an anti white double standard.
HermanM
HermanM - 5/26/2024, 12:31 PM
@TheMetaMan - Okay. If you believe race doesn't matter, then why support changing it?
Origame
Origame - 5/26/2024, 12:35 PM
@HermanM - exactly. And it's not like there are shortages of characters who need to be white for the story. But they don't care.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 5/26/2024, 12:38 PM
@MG0019 - they already have a Caucasian Black Panther… he’s called Tarzan.
AvalonX
AvalonX - 5/26/2024, 12:52 PM
@HermanM - Be careful. The feelings people are about to show up and use their racist and incel words.
AvalonX
AvalonX - 5/26/2024, 12:54 PM
@Origame - I was clapping one of the idiots in the Indian Reed thread, this is how it works. Skin color isn't essential to a character unless they are non-white. So any race or gender swap from a classic white character is fair game.
Origame
Origame - 5/26/2024, 1:03 PM
@AvalonX - yeah. People kept saying black superman was fine because being white wasn't important. But then you look at the background of how it was made. It was made based on the lives of the writers, who are two Jewish immigrants coming to America, as well as the story of Moses. On top of that they also designed superman based on an actor they really liked, Clark gable.

So I mean, if you don't care about the culture and intentions of the original creators, I guess superman being white isn't important...
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 5/26/2024, 1:11 PM
@FinnishDude - Makes sense.
AvalonX
AvalonX - 5/26/2024, 1:11 PM
@Origame - There are two categories of people in my art circles. 1) Fellow artists 2) People who are appreciate art

Neither of which would change the vision of the creator, whatever the reason was. Thats why I call myself a traditionalist. Its funny, we all used to be traditionalists. The same people arguing over swapping were probably complaining when costumes were butchered back in the day. Now Superman can be black because it makes my feelings better.
Origame
Origame - 5/26/2024, 1:15 PM
@AvalonX - yeah that still happens. And I just don't get it. I genuinely don't understand why you'd be OK with a race or gender swap but not changing the costume. Like, arguably the design of the costume also has nothing to do with the story. And it's especially confusing for superman since his face is exposed, making his race part of his design.

In the end, it's not about respect. It's about race baiting to make people feel better they supported the latest social cause.
AvalonX
AvalonX - 5/26/2024, 1:18 PM
@Origame - I'm convinced, just like the Twitter trolls, that half of these FN idiots on this board don't actually consume the content. I know they werent comics book fans, especially the younger ones. You can tell when they Google something. It's literally a place where they can go fight with people who they don't agree with. I posted a list later in this thread of the race/gender swapped characters. Its never going to be enough because it isn't about diversity.
Origame
Origame - 5/26/2024, 1:39 PM
@AvalonX - yeah definitely. I genuinely don't know anyone in the real world asking for a black superman movie. Because superman is white.

Reminds me of this

https://youtube.com/shorts/_xXb8nXf13I?si=i47Z_hFkazm62frI
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 5/26/2024, 1:53 PM
@HermanM - I’m neither fit or against the race swapping of a character. If they want to cast Esposito in the role of Doom then so be it. Let’s see what he can bring to the role but if they stick to tradition and cast a white male in the role then I’m more then happy to see that interpretation as well. I’m neutral in all this. I seek to promote peace and love for all humanity man.
IronMan616
IronMan616 - 5/26/2024, 2:00 PM
@KennKathleen - Claes Bang. If anyone can name me someone better, I’m all ears.
grif
grif - 5/26/2024, 2:02 PM
@HermanM - i have red hair and i feel pretty [frick]ing unrepresented here. doom needs red hair.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 5/26/2024, 2:22 PM
@HermanM - You haven't actually rebutted my argument that most white characters can be raceswapped, without that affecting their story.
dragon316
dragon316 - 5/26/2024, 2:32 PM
@HermanM - your going for accurate majors black guy play white comic character kang no one ever complained about that race swap kang in comics white as shown in video johanthan majors is no white man how accurate representation of character can no one get same thing with valkery
?feature=shared
dragon316
dragon316 - 5/26/2024, 2:36 PM
@Origame - majors looks nothing like character kang not one person complained about news of him be kang , valkery black woman in movies is white woman in comics she looks nothing like part.,
Marvel does not always fan cast with choices of characters in movies
Antitrollpatrol
Antitrollpatrol - 5/26/2024, 2:37 PM
@HermanM - I hate to be that guy but fantastic four does take place in another universe. To say that this fictional world's demographics are just like ours might be jumping the gun. Giancarlo regardless of his race is a phenomenal actor. Whatever character he is playing in the MCU I'm sure he'll kill it. I just wish more people would be okay with this point of view. I get the thought of it looking like race bending especially with what Disney has done with classic characters over the last couple years but our opinions aren't going to change the executive's decisions.
dragon316
dragon316 - 5/26/2024, 2:40 PM
@HermanM - ?feature=shared
Add marvel kang to the list
BigPhilbowski
BigPhilbowski - 5/26/2024, 3:12 PM
@HermanM - you've obviously never met any Romanis so. What an idiotic statement
HermanM
HermanM - 5/26/2024, 3:18 PM
@FinnishDude - what makes you think it doesn't effect their story? If you were a different race, wouldn't your life story be different? If it would change the story for nonwhite characters then it changes the story for white characters too. Race matters for everyone or no one.
HermanM
HermanM - 5/26/2024, 3:41 PM
@BigPhilbowski - I've met Romani and gypsy
HermanM
HermanM - 5/26/2024, 3:48 PM
@dragon316 - Yep the list is well over 150 now
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 5/26/2024, 4:14 PM
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