THE FANTASTIC FOUR Director Matt Shakman Reveals How Jonathan Hickman's Comic Book Run Inspired FIRST STEPS

THE FANTASTIC FOUR Director Matt Shakman Reveals How Jonathan Hickman's Comic Book Run Inspired FIRST STEPS

The Fantastic Four: First Steps director Matt Shakman has penned a foreword for a new release of Fantastic Four: Solve Everything, and reveals how Jonathan Hickman's work has inspired the next MCU movie.

By JoshWilding - Jun 03, 2025 05:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four
Source: Variety

After helming WandaVision, a TV series still widely considered one of Marvel Studios' best, filmmaker Matt Shakman moved on to The Fantastic Four: First Steps.

Spider-Man: No Way Home helmer Jon Watts was originally attached to direct, but Shakman wasn't a last-minute hire and made the movie his own. While Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's early Fantastic Four comic books were an obvious inspiration, so too was Jonathan Hickman's game-changing run.

Variety has shared Shakman's foreword for the new Marvel Premiere Collection release, Fantastic Four: Solve Everything. That collects issues #570 - #588, written by Hickman with art from Dale Eaglesham, Neil Edwards and Steve Epting.

We're sure some of you will comb through these remarks for clues, and Shakman's mention of The Bridge, for example, stands out as a concept he's potentially adapted for the MCU. 

The Fantastic Four: First Steps' trailers have confirmed that Mister Fantastic is investigating the Multiverse, while Thunderbolts* showed the team arriving on Earth-616. Many fans hope the Council of Reeds, also mentioned by Shakman, factor into Avengers: Doomsday

You can read Shakman's foreword in full below. 

I fell in love with the Fantastic Four when I was a kid growing up in Ventura, California. Encountering a family of super heroes that felt so familiar blew my mind: the humor, the heart, the sniping and griping, the messiness. At the same time, I was taken by the optimism and wonder of their world. With their roots in the ’60s space race, the F4 have always been about exploration — whether it is to the cosmos or the Negative Zone or deep into the human mind. Reed, Sue, Ben and Johnny may have incredible powers, but they are family first, scientists and explorers second and super heroes only when absolutely necessary.

Every Marvel filmmaker attempts to build on what has come before in publishing while simultaneously reinventing the characters for the current moment. The same is true with comic creators. What Lee and Kirby launched in the ’60s changed Marvel forever. Their bold gamble to center a realistic family turned into the biggest hit of the early Silver Age. Every artist and writer since has attempted to build on that legacy while finding something in the characters that made them sparkle anew.

In preparation for Marvel Studios’ 'The Fantastic Four: First Steps,' I delved into the 60-plus years of comics history. Marvel’s First Family has been continuously cared for by the best and brightest the company had to offer. None shone so bright as Jonathan Hickman. The humor and heart I loved as a kid? It’s there and better than ever. The messy family dynamics? Made even more interesting as Val and Franklin take center stage. And that sense of optimism and wonder? I don’t think the Fantastic Four have been quite as fantastic as they are in the pages of this book.

As we developed the script for the film, I returned again and again to this epic run — thrilled by brain-bending innovations like the Council of Reeds and riveted by heroic standoffs against the likes of Annihilus. But it was Hickman’s deep insight into the specific family dynamics of the Four that affected me the most.

His Reed Richards is part Steve Jobs and part Oppenheimer, always on the edge of saving the world or destroying it. The author runs right at Mister Fantastic’s weakness: believing that he can and should do it all on his own. Reed is determined to “Solve Everything” — but he learns that the cost of solving everything is… everything. Ultimate knowledge risks ultimate sacrifice: the loss of his family.

Sue has come a long way from the 'Invisible Girl' of the early ’60s. In these pages, she is part United Nations Secretary General and part Field Marshal, backing up diplomacy with force when necessary. Hickman’s Sue may be the most powerful member of the Four — she’s the glue that holds the world together while Reed experiments in the lab with things that could destroy it. She brokers deals as the world’s finest diplomat, ending up as the Queen of the Sea. In one of my favorite F4 moments, she declares to Namor, 'I am a Queen that bows before no King.' Damn right.

How do these two very different people make up the greatest marriage in comics history? We see, page after page, that the secret is their unique balance of heart and mind. Before Jerry Maguire, these two completed each other.

Sue and Reed are relatable not just as partners, but also as parents. We understand their anxiety, fretting over the destiny of Val and Franklin just as I fret over my 9-year-old daughter’s future. I cherish the family intimacy of scenes in the Baxter Building and never doubt that these parents love their children and would do anything to protect their future. I know that Johnny and Ben would do the same.

And we know that, as super heroes, they will fight just as hard to protect our world.

Having absorbed six decades of F4 publishing, many of Hickman’s magical moments and unique character dynamics stick with me. And they made it into our film in small and large ways. From Sue as a diplomat to Reed trying to solve everything even at the risk of imperiling his family. Johnny’s need to be taken seriously. Ben’s gentle nature, forever at odds with his appearance. The Future Foundation. The Bridge. The mystery of children and the anxiety we have as parents about their future.

Hickman is a poet, of both the everyday and the extraordinary. His work beats with a heart as big as Sue Storm’s, rendering an emotional journey that culminates in a scene that makes me tear up every time I read it. (I won’t ruin it… just wait for 'Uncles.') His writing is thrilling, thought-provoking and tender…and, like the characters he writes about, fantastic.

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Pictilli
Pictilli - 6/3/2025, 5:57 AM
Damn.... he understands all that and really seems to get it and have a great handle on the characters from what he says here...

And yet....

....despite all of that...

...the best he can give us is female Silver Surfer, Pedro refusing to shave for Reed, awful Ben Grimm casting & Thing voice?

Sad.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 6/3/2025, 6:07 AM
@Pictilli - none of us have seen this yet. From what I've seen, FF appears to be more comic accurate than Superman..... yet you have put a saddle on James gunns genitalia and are riding off into the sunset. Sad
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 6/3/2025, 6:08 AM
@Pictilli - he was given ultimatum about putting surfher in the movie
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 6/3/2025, 6:24 AM
@ProfessorWhy - If I could have a meme or GIF of the image you just created in my mind...
Think about Randy on South Park when he gets testicle cancer and is bouncing down the sidewalk. :D
Fogs
Fogs - 6/3/2025, 6:30 AM
@Pictilli - I wonder how much of this was decided by him and how much came from the studio...
dragon316
dragon316 - 6/3/2025, 6:44 AM
@ProfessorWhy - depends there are some Superman books world did not need fear Superman half world need and want him they both are comic accurate in different ways
ComicBandit
ComicBandit - 6/3/2025, 6:56 AM
@Pictilli - To be fair, Marvel has plans for a Norrin Rad movie and have for a long time. They probably didn't want this to be his first official outing and this made sense as a compromise and because it's not completely unprecedented. The mustache thing I agree with. However, I can just hear Marvel saying, you need to shave your mustache and Pascal responding, did you force John Krasinski to shave his beard. But Reed has a beard in some o the comics. Pascal: well at some point he'd have to have a mustache first.
J0HNS0N
J0HNS0N - 6/3/2025, 7:30 AM
@ComicBandit - didn’t he shave his mustache for ww88? That’s what gets me
antariss
antariss - 6/3/2025, 7:43 AM
@ComicBandit - Fair point about the ‘tache - I wasn’t a fan either! However, it is in keeping with the 60s ‘father figure’ aesthetic and helps sell the era. Pascal has been clean shaven for roles many times so not sure it’s his call or that he refused to shave. I think if we can accept the Krasinski later comics era beard we can tolerate a small tache though right? I think it’s another reason to bash Pascal’s casting for many tbh
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/3/2025, 8:33 AM
@antariss - I think they're going for that whole Walt Disney vibe.
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Also people tend to forget that they changed Tony Stark's facial hair, giving him a goatee and nobody seemed to have a problem with that.
Pictilli
Pictilli - 6/3/2025, 8:36 AM
@ProfessorWhy - female Silver Surfer alone with Norrin's storyarc makes that not true.

Hail Gunn
Pictilli
Pictilli - 6/3/2025, 8:36 AM
@Fogs - yeah, me too
JurassicClunge
JurassicClunge - 6/3/2025, 8:39 AM
@ProfessorWhy - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😩😩😩😩😩

Omg lmao
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 6/3/2025, 10:00 AM
@Pictilli - Because he was told or is a true believer in disguise.
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 6/3/2025, 10:06 AM
@Pictilli - To be fair, I don’t think the Surfer was in Hickman’s run anyway, so it’s not like he’s adapting that part “incorrectly”. I do wish we were getting Norrin though. I wish Thing had a gravelier voice with an accent but you’re insane regarding the casting in general, the guy himself is perfect. Why will Reed having a mustache ruin it for you? He didn’t even have a beard before Hickman’s run, clearly even the comics don’t treat his facial hair as that important lmao
Pictilli
Pictilli - 6/3/2025, 10:20 AM
@OmegaBlack13 - the guy looks and acts nothing like Ben Grimm
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 6/3/2025, 12:12 PM
@ProfessorWhy - bro its pride month, why is it sad if a man wants to ride the genitalia of another man. Show some respect to the gays. It's pride month. Come on.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 6/3/2025, 12:27 PM
@Ryguy88 - my apologies. Ride'em cowboy 🤠
SuperCat
SuperCat - 6/3/2025, 6:00 AM
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MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 6/3/2025, 12:10 PM
Pedro Pascal licking a stick suggestively and dancing - interestingly.

http://youtube.com/shorts/pPtcRVEPVFk?si=VSthQh_Cvs-Ot0Xv
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 6/3/2025, 6:07 AM
I want Franklin to take MCU forward
Fogs
Fogs - 6/3/2025, 6:31 AM
@AllsNotGood - Wonder if he'll create the new MCU universe, actually.
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 6/3/2025, 6:33 AM
@Fogs - something needs to happen for sure.....they dug themselves into a hole
Fogs
Fogs - 6/3/2025, 11:03 AM
@AllsNotGood - yeah, totally
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 6/3/2025, 12:12 PM
@AllsNotGood -

The current MCU has to go.

The woke cancer is deep in the MCU's bones and brain.
Patient2670
Patient2670 - 6/3/2025, 1:27 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - But pay no attention to those MAGA tumors, clearly growing on your heart and lungs.
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 6/3/2025, 6:27 AM
Heres the thing I like.. and maybe its a case of "justification".. Reed isnt a super hero. He is a nerd. A Geek. He has extraordinary abilities and is able to use those to solve problems and if absolutely necessary, fight.
This is why I liked Ioan Gruffards Reed. He needs to be Sheldon but with more control. For some reason, I think Pedro is going to smash it. Even with that God-awful mustache.
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 6/3/2025, 9:06 AM
@AgentofSH1ELD - I like his iteration. I actually like those f4 movies
dragon316
dragon316 - 6/3/2025, 6:45 AM
Like short sleeve look reed have in comic panel for this news
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 6/3/2025, 6:59 AM
"None shone so bright as Jonathan Hickman. The humor and heart I loved as a kid? It’s there and better than ever. The messy family dynamics? Made even more interesting as Val and Franklin take center stage. And that sense of optimism and wonder? I don’t think the Fantastic Four have been quite as fantastic as they are in the pages of this book."

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I'm ready to see where this goes. I do want it to win. The words are on point.
KingZero
KingZero - 6/3/2025, 7:05 AM
It must be hard to be a creative within a big studio, and working with big talent too. Pedro probably mandated not shaving his moustache (though it fits nicely with the retrofuturist aesthetic), the studio went with his star power/brand, and Shalla Bal was probably a studio mandate as well (I'm sure this will be justified narratively, and Norrin Radd will show up down the line- where he's not a supporting player in a busy ensemble with a lot of work to do). Trying to create something you're happy with while negotiating studio mandates, actor contracts, an aggressive fanbase and 60 years of source material and then fit that within an existing framework of near 20 years of onscreen mythology AND alongside concurrent projects in development sounds like really hard work. A privileged position to be in, no doubt, but hard work nonetheless. I hope it's great.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/3/2025, 7:15 AM
@KingZero - I feel Shalla Bal and Pedro’s casting were both a creative decisions since the latter has known Shakman for a long time…

Obviously though , his popularity will help the film which likely the studio doesn’t object to
DocSpock
DocSpock - 6/3/2025, 7:13 AM

If you elect Pedro, all your wildest dreams will come true.

WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 6/3/2025, 8:20 AM
@DocSpock - "I will build her a cake."
DocSpock
DocSpock - 6/3/2025, 9:05 AM
@WEAPONXOXOXO -

And I will draw her portrait. I hope I get the shading right on her nose.
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 6/3/2025, 9:06 AM
@DocSpock - Pedro or paedo
DocSpock
DocSpock - 6/3/2025, 9:10 AM
@AllsNotGood -

Uh oh...
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 6/3/2025, 11:36 AM
@DocSpock - "do chickens have large talons"
DocSpock
DocSpock - 6/3/2025, 1:03 PM
@WEAPONXOXOXO -

I don’t understand a word you just said.

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