Why GOTG and THE AVENGERS Shouldn't Crossover

Why GOTG and THE AVENGERS Shouldn't Crossover

Seems to be a big topic here lately, and here I express my concerns over why it shouldn't happen.

Editorial Opinion
By GliderMan - Jul 18, 2014 12:07 PM EST
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One of the things that bothered me about the Marvel Cinematic Universe was that I felt everything had to crossover. Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Cap, in one movie? Great, awesome, it's my favorite movie of all time. But there's more to Marvel than the Avengers. Yes, even beyond Spider-Man, X-Men, and the Fantastic Four, there are great characters that don't need to be in the Avengers; they can interact in that world, but they don't need to be Avengers.

Which is why I got really excited when Marvel Studios announced Guardians of the Galaxy. A whole seperate team that can function on their own. But now it seems a big thing is for them to crossover in Avengers 3,  and it seems by the poll taken earlier today that there are a lot of people that want this to happen. But there are two reasons why I'm against this.

One--not everything has to emerge in the Avengers. I realize this happened in the comics, and I'm sure it'd be cool to see, but I want Marvel to come out with franchises INDEPENDENT of the Avengers franchise. Gaurdians of the Galaxy and Dr. Strange are just two that would work out perfectly. Having them connect would work out perfectly in the story, but that doesn't mean they have to all show up and be Avengers. Let them stand on their own.

Two--Not everybody's going to like Guardians of the Galaxy. For some people, the Avengers is almost too far out there for them to get into it. And Guardians of the Galaxy? I'm sure it will do well, and I'm sure I personally will like it, but it's not on the level of "mainstream" as Thor and Captain America, and never will be. Aliens all coming together to save the galaxy? Cool, but it's not for everyone, and the Avengers movies need to be more open than this. Imagine watching the trailer for the third Avengers and seeing them fighting alongside the Guardians of the Galaxy. The general audience are going to be confused. What's up the raccoon fighting beside Iron Man? I mean, even if they're just in the movie and in different scenes, it's still going to be too much to keep up with--and it's unneeded. You can definitely do the story without them, and I believe promotion-wise and even story-wise it is the wrong decision.

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tvor03
tvor03 - 7/18/2014, 1:08 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
yossarian
yossarian - 7/18/2014, 1:16 PM
Can they make money doing so?



Then yes or no.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 7/18/2014, 1:38 PM
No, I disagree with you, Sir
kong
kong - 7/18/2014, 1:43 PM
So if Thanos is the villain in Avengers 3, the Guardians won't show up. Even though one of the members is his daughter Gamora, and he appears in the Guardians movie.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 7/18/2014, 1:57 PM
they should and they will, they will fight a mutual threat just like they do all the time.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 7/18/2014, 2:03 PM
quill is from earth they will help. they will crossover.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 7/18/2014, 2:06 PM
@GliderMan

I simply think it would be FUN to watch the crossover, plus the whole team wouldn't have to help the Avengers, it could just be Peter Quill and company....
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 7/18/2014, 2:17 PM
I could definitely see it working though.... I think Gamora had a minor role in the Infinity Gauntlet, I think it would be cool
kong
kong - 7/18/2014, 2:24 PM
@GliderMan

I think they will crossover. Besides who said they were adapting Infinity Gauntlet? It might be a key object in the film, but it doesn't have to be an adaption of the story. A2 is called Avengers: Age of Ultron, but it's not being adapted from the comic story arc of the same name. I think it's already in their plan and if Guardians doesn't make that much money, they still will probably use them in other people's movies.

Also I agree that not all MCU properties will crossover, but I don't think this will be one of them. I hope the Netflix shows don't EVER crossover in to movies EVER!!! Unless for example a New Avengers movie with Luke Cage and Iron Fist being involved, but other than that exception I don't want to see them in the movies.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 7/18/2014, 2:34 PM
Personally, it's one of the things I love about the MCU right now, even if you don't love one of the individual movies like Iron Man 3, you know that your character is going to be on screen again. And, in the case of Iron Man 3, it looks like after watching Avengers: AOU, that movie will make better sense

It's totally different than pre-MCU, when you had to wait for a sequel after sequel and the character's would never interact with anyone outside of their movies
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 7/18/2014, 3:19 PM
@GliderMan

Yes, I would definitely want to see Reed, Stark, and Banner interact, Fantastic 4 would fit really well within the MCU
ruadh
ruadh - 7/18/2014, 4:01 PM
I'm fine with crossovers, such as a cameo in a future GOTG movie (assuming there are more) from someone from other movies etc. But I can see the appeal of not tying every character into Avengers 3.
MarvelFan15
MarvelFan15 - 7/18/2014, 5:07 PM
It has to happen. I totally disagree.
NightForce
NightForce - 7/18/2014, 7:46 PM
"They don't need to be Avengers"
Putting the Guardians with the Avengers movie wouldn't "make them Avengers" lol wut.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 7/18/2014, 8:48 PM
I think they should do a crossover film every couple of phases. So Avengers 3 is just that. Avengers 3. Then right after we get the big crossover film. Infinity Gauntlet. I mean, they did just announce slots for five unknown films so we'll just have to wait and see. I think this is what Gliderman is trying to say. Thanos is hardly in Guardians from what I hear, so in Avengers 3 the heroes get their asses handed to them by Thanos himself. He gets the last of the Infinity Stones, and the Avengers call for reinforcements. Leading into the crossover film.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 7/18/2014, 9:48 PM
@dethpillow. Exactly. And come on now, who are they trying to kid? They teased a freakin Kronin in Thor TDW. Now theres Sakaaran soldiers in GOTG. Then all the rumors and even Ruffalo teasing another Hulk film......Hulks going cosmic people. Im down with a very loose adaptation of Planet Hulk. I doubt they will even call it that.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 7/18/2014, 10:38 PM
I think a crossover will happen and with all the build up in the MCU of Thanos i have a feeling that the villain will be the main antogonist in Avengers 3. Avenger's 3 could possibly be adapting the "Infinity Gauntlet" story arc from the comics but again the film will probably make a few change's.

The Avengers and GOTG will crossover, heroes will unite against a common threat. Not all those heroes will be an Avenger.
GreenLantern519
GreenLantern519 - 7/19/2014, 6:34 AM
Well it's clearly happening, so this is kind of a moot conversation at this point.
Pedrito
Pedrito - 7/19/2014, 8:00 AM
You said Rocket fighting alongside Iron Man?
That sounds awesome!

Plus the verbal exchange between Rocket and Stark would be hilarious.
DeusExSponge
DeusExSponge - 7/19/2014, 10:25 AM
Well a big reason for the crossover, story-wise, is that Thanos is a huge universal threat to the MCU. The Avengers are going to need A LOT of allies to even think of stopping Thanos, especially when he has the Infinity Gauntlet.
sikwon
sikwon - 7/19/2014, 5:55 PM
I agree with not wanting crossovers just for the sake of having them but the fact is Thanos is too much for the Avengers. I also think it will be multiple Infinity movies and I'm also willing to bet we haven't seen half the characters involved (Panther, Nova, Warlock, Beta Ray Bill etc etc). I think we will get, in the same year, 3 or 4 movies tied together. And I HOPE Hulk goes cosmic. By the time they are ready to take on Thanos I promise the Marvel brand will be such that they can name the movies "Marvel presents Infinity Crisis" "Marvel presents Infinity War" "Marvel presents Infinity Gauntlet". By then they won't need to call it "Avengers Infinity War" or ""Guardians of the Galaxy Infinity Crisis". All though that would be cool to. The brand will be big enough and people will know by then that this is a bigger Avengers story. I mean look at the media blitz Guardians is getting now. 3 months ago people were like what the he'll is this? 2 days ago my for year old neice asked me to take her to see Guardians of the galaxy because "I know who they are URay and I watched Avengers and you missed it!" She's brainwashed by the way... she sings the Philadelphia Eagles fight song and loves CBM's. I'm the best uncle ever!!!
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 7/19/2014, 7:14 PM
*sigh* silly fanboys who think everything has to copy comics *sigh*

@gliderman, I agree with you 100%, at least right now. From the trailers and TV commercials, the tone of GotG is just far too different from that of the Avengers for a combo movie to work with general audiences. I can't even remotely see general audiences wanting to see or accepting Iron Man and Capt. America fighting alongside Groot and Rocket Raccoon. I mean seriously, the Capt. America that has been shown in TWS in the same movie as a talking, machine gun toting racoon? It just doesn't work. Now, maybe after I watch GotG I'll change my mind, but I doubt it. I can see some individual cameos or crossovers (Iron Man or Hulk going to space, or maybe Quill and/or Gamorra coming to Earth to help fight Thanos), but I have no desire to see both teams together, and while it wouldn't bomb, I don't think an Avengers/GotG film would do as well as just an Avengers film. And no, we're not missing the point of a cinematic universe. Not every character in a universe has to meet every other character. Do some of you want Darcy and her intern to crossover into the Avengers or GotG? Probably not.

Seriously, you fanboys have to get it through your heads that not everything that works in comics will work in movies. Ant-Man is probably not going to work that well in a movie. Green Lantern didn't work well in a movie, and it had a lot of comic book stuff in it with all the constructs, including the ridiculous green fist (I personally hope that WB either leaves Green Lantern out of Justice League, or at least leave a lot of his dumber constructs out, like the fist. Just have him use the ring to create force fields and energy blasts.) I don't see Aquaman working in a movie. And I don't see the GotG joining up with the Avengers working in a movie. Not with general audiences.
CapitanAmerika2
CapitanAmerika2 - 7/21/2014, 6:08 PM
@Gliderman: If Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers do not cross over to fight Thanos then there is no point in making the Guardians of the Galaxy movie because you can't have the Avengers fight Thanos without the two characters tied to him the most: Drax and Gamoa. Also the Infinity Gauntlet storyline had both Drax and Gamora in it so it would be utterly pointless to adapt the story into a movie without them in it.

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