Justin Theroux On Crafting A Superhero Sequel...Iron Man 2

Justin Theroux On Crafting A Superhero Sequel...Iron Man 2

Iron Man 2 scripter, Justin Theroux talks more about writing the sequel, avoiding the "Demon in the bottle" storyline, Iron Man 3, and more. Check it Out!

By DCMarvelFreshman - Apr 24, 2010 07:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Iron Man
Source: UGO



Approaching the world-wide release week, CBM.com and the world is being flooded with Iron Man 2 related info and thoughts from the cast, director, producers, and the writers. One writer in particular, Justin Theroux, who helped Marvel and Director, Jon Favreau create the said-to-be masterpiece, has been giving brief tidbits.

But now, Theroux talking with UGO, he gives more enlightenment on writing a film of this level, re-writing process, Iron Man 3, and his announced Zoolander sequel.

On writing a superhero sequel

On the one hand, we're taking the reality of where the first film left off. That's the starting point...What does that mean for Tony Stark's world, his company? What are the new pressures? Also, there's this brand new proprietary technology that's out there, as if somebody had invented the atom bomb. Who wants it? Who's gonna try and get it? Who's gonna claim they already own it? And Marvel's great about not coming in with any agenda. We all sit in a room and unpack our trunks, put everything out there, pretend that everything is possible. We get all the past issues out and pour over the villains. We dog-ear the people we like - Justin Hammer, Whiplash, Black Widow. Then we start to stitch those things together. It's a surprisingly organic way of working.

On the much-discussed re-writing process

It's unique to the talent that we have in this movie. There are certain things that I've worked on where you want to script it as tightly as possible and try and box an actor in...What makes Robert so wonderful is that he's this fountain of creativity. There's so much electricity flying off him that the best you can do is throw a wedge in and divert some of that energy so that it hits the screen. And my job as a writer isn't to come in and say, "Hey, it's Iron Man, but let's make it MY Iron Man." I just try to sing in the same key as Robert and Jon...I was having to come in with several different options so that Robert could vibe which option falls into what he wants to do, and also so that Jon can graft one thing onto another to steer the story in some way. It's more labor-intensive, but at the same time, it's much more gratifying.



On the absence of the Demon in the Bottle storyline

Demon in the Bottle...That works really well in the comics. It's just a great, gritty storyline. It doesn't transfer to film. We didn't want to be the Leaving Las Vegas version of Iron Man 2. Even just a little bit of that can completely dominate the story. We have him drinking in the movie; we have him out of control. We have the self-destructive ticking clock...That's how we landed on his illness, that it's the metaphor for a man who's running out of steam and needs his friends to step up. Whereas, if we ran right toward the Demon in the Bottle story, nobody wants to see Tony like that...We realized that in a comic book you can have one key-frame where it's a guy, drunk, but in a movie, that's gotta be a big scene and it's gotta be addressed. A thirteen year old kid does not want to see drunken Tony.

On Iron Man 3

Definitely, Iron Man 3 is going to be a topic of conversation at some point. At this moment, we're enjoying Iron Man 2. Kevin and those guys are really smart about waiting to see what the fans gravitate towards. We knew they loved Tony being all bing-bang-boom, so we added more Tony speech moments; they loved Tony and Pepper. I think they'll wait for Iron Man 2 to come out, see what bits resonate and then capitalize on those.


Head over to UGO to find out what Justin Theroux had to say about his Zoolander sequel. In the meantime, see how much improvised Theroux's Iron Man 2 script is, translated to the big screen, when the film hits theaters May 7th.
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Phinehas
Phinehas - 4/24/2010, 8:28 PM
If anything, you don't throw it all into just one film, which would bring the film very low. Instead, what they are rightfully doing, is slowly, over the course of several films, realizing his sin of drunkeness, and unfolding it before us. That way the film (or any subsequent film) won't be weighed down by the subject. Now, that isn't to say that it will creshendo into a fallen hero subject at a later time. But it seems they will touch on it in greater depth in an eventual installment.
airbeyonder18
airbeyonder18 - 4/24/2010, 8:34 PM
Man. I so wanted to see Demon in a Bottle storyline in future Iron Man..oh well.
Phinehas
Phinehas - 4/24/2010, 8:36 PM
I don't think you won't, airbeyonder18.
It just won't play out in one movie. It may transcend a few.
JonStarkgaryen
JonStarkgaryen - 4/24/2010, 9:09 PM
@Danny great points made, well said. Its refreshing to hear someone say something with intelligence behind it. I don’t think the average “fanboy” (a term i despise), grasps the concept that multi million dollar movies, MEANT FOR THE MASSES, can’t mirror comics sketch for sketch. Comics are great, but certain ke aspects have to be elaborated upon while quite a bit of the material needs to be omitted for it to MAKE FREAKING MONEY! If studios made CBMs based directly off comics then they WOULDN’T MAKE MONEY, and they would be too hard to follow. You’ve got to realize that only 1 out every 100 people that see CMBs actually know the comic story lines inside and out.


CaptainOtter
CaptainOtter - 4/24/2010, 9:23 PM
I'm a little undecided on how whether or not they should take on Demon in a Bottle. On one hand, it is a classic Iron Man story and one of the most unique tales in comics. Then again, will it work? Iron Man worked because it combined the light hearted with the serious. The movie found a way to make you smile, even when Tony was stuck in a cave. Tony hitting rock bottom alcholic would be a very dark turn, and one that might be a bit too real for some audiences. Iron Man is also meant for younger crowds as well, and when you throw in such a serious problem it might not be for them.
Phinehas
Phinehas - 4/24/2010, 9:49 PM
CaptainOtter
"Iron Man is also meant for younger crowds as well..."

I don't believe that to be true. I think they know their target audience it between 15-35 years old. Pulling punches or even gearing to an age group that is any younger than that, it will look like the Star Wars prequels and end up being too goofy and a parody of itself. They have to treat this movie in the real world and walk the fine line of not being too heavy handed. Yet, with a fallen hero, it will give an audience a dilemma that they desire the hero to overcome. Good writing and direction can execute this without being too dreary. As long as the action is top notch, and the story and plot are solid, avoiding such dark overtones would be foolish. People don't want to be coddled too much.
TheUnknown
TheUnknown - 4/24/2010, 9:58 PM
As much as I wanted to see the alcoholism, I figured they wouldn't use it in the movie.....
TheUltimateAvenger
TheUltimateAvenger - 4/24/2010, 9:58 PM
@ Phinehas Explain that to all the pre-teens/kids who're dying to see IM2.
Phinehas
Phinehas - 4/24/2010, 10:03 PM
You don't have to gear a movie down, or dumb it down for kids to enjoy "crash bang boom". They pick up on the tenor of the film without excising big boy dialogue. A hero falling down drunk and becoming useless, is a good negative example for kids, imo. They're not as dumb as you might take them for. A cynical mind would assume so. But I think kids need negative examples as well as positive.
SauronCorps
SauronCorps - 4/24/2010, 10:04 PM
hey he was the bad guy in charlie's angels 2 jajajaja
TheUltimateAvenger
TheUltimateAvenger - 4/24/2010, 10:21 PM
@Phinehas This is true. But soccer moms will probably ignore this & just complain.
Also, I wanna see "DITB" handled in The Avengers.
TheUltimateAvenger
TheUltimateAvenger - 4/24/2010, 10:23 PM
BTW, i'm new here so I must ask. Where are Teabag & the boobiez?!?!
arnoldknl
arnoldknl - 4/24/2010, 11:40 PM
Iran Man2 Is my much await movie,i heard and see about this movie,this time its director change many things in this movie so i just waiting a new story and action in this movie. Cho Yung Tea
Phinehas
Phinehas - 4/25/2010, 12:11 AM
"But soccer moms will probably ignore this & just complain."

Maybe so, but not enough to sway a budget and script for a new installment.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 4/25/2010, 4:55 AM
I agree with Pine on this, not having that storyline is fine but they are absolute bullshit reasons listed by Theroux. "Nobody wants to see Tony drunk". And you know this how? I want to see it..I'm pretty sure lots of others do too..so then he corrects himself .."Thirteen year old kids don't want to see a drunken Tony". Ahhh, ok, now your motives are clear. You can have a couple of scenes..Hell even one scene of Stark over indulging and getting a bit pished and Pepper or whoever being concerned for it to work, I understand that they don't want it to dominate the film, but I think it would have been a brave move for em. Ah well.
1chris2
1chris2 - 4/25/2010, 5:41 AM
i would love to see ultron in the films.anyways sound great and cant wait.ohhhh and nice tea.
CaptainAmerica
CaptainAmerica - 4/25/2010, 8:54 AM
does not translate well to screen? but jumping out of a airplane saying you complete me does? what the [frick] do you know about writing movies? where does this mother [frick]er live? the demon in the bottle story is awesome. and some of the best character development stark could have.
TheUltimateAvenger
TheUltimateAvenger - 4/25/2010, 10:39 AM
@teabag TENT ALERT!TENT ALERT!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 4/25/2010, 11:57 AM
Avoiding DEMON IN THE BOTTLE storyline is a HUGE mistake, hell thats why Rod's gets the IRON MAN armor in the first place and later WAR MACHINE, oh well its [frick]ing HOLLYWOOD for ya, story would have brought grit and depth to the character, anyways i'm sure IRON MAN 2 is still gonna be awesome!

P.S. NO to WAR MACHINE being in AVENGERS I! : P
Phinehas
Phinehas - 4/26/2010, 1:49 PM
bropous
Yes, but didn't IM and Handcock comeout at the same time? ALso, if they do Demon... and don't narrow it into one film, it may soften remarks of plagarism.
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