Terrence Howard Looks Back At Being Fired From The Iron Man Franchise!

Terrence Howard Looks Back At Being Fired From The Iron Man Franchise!

The actor goes into detail about what caused his split with Marvel Studios, revealing more about how their decision made him feel and their apparent financial motivations for it...

By JoshWilding - Jan 23, 2011 03:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Iron Man
Source: Toronto Sun

"Hollywood is a business. You cannot take it personally," he said when looking back at how he was dropped from the successful Marvel Studios franchise after just the one movie back in 2008. "Iron Man and everything that happened with them taught me to not take anything personally."



However, the actor is clearly still a little bitter (and perhaps understandable so) about the way in which the whole situation went down, as he details below.

"You put your heart in everything and you do good by people and you don't have that returned to you. You do a three-picture deal with someone and they come to you after making 700, 800 million dollars and say, 'We think the second one will be successful with or without you, so instead of the eight million we owe you, we're going to give you one million and give you a half-hour to make a decision.'

"I just wanted what was in my contract."


As you know, Howard was replaced as Colonel James Rhodes by Don Cheadle in last years Iron Man 2, and never got the chance to don the War Machine armor. This is the first time we've seen him talk in such revealing detail about what went on behind-the-scenes. While this is only one side of the story, it does seem that Marvel Studios are more concerned with saving money than keeping the same actors and are more than happy to recast them if necessary. (Ed Norton, anyone?) Be sure to share your thoughts on this news in the usual place!




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Ryden
Ryden - 1/23/2011, 3:49 PM
Fair enough really, Marvel should have stuck to the contract, if that's what it said.
sofakinghigh
sofakinghigh - 1/23/2011, 3:50 PM
seems marvel are prettyy selfish! Aslong as they're spending the money they've saved on the Avengers im not too bothered!!!!
manymade1
manymade1 - 1/23/2011, 3:51 PM
I didn't know he was fired, I thought he just left.
AiyalKilU
AiyalKilU - 1/23/2011, 3:51 PM
meh, Howard couldn't act his way out of a paper bag in the first one... but it wasn't like Cheadle gave a memorable performance as well, pretty stiff rather

in the end the two really canceled each other out

and yes Kevin Feige is a penny pincher
AiyalKilU
AiyalKilU - 1/23/2011, 3:52 PM
hence we get Ruffalo instead of Norton who made IH watchable
dahamma
dahamma - 1/23/2011, 3:52 PM
Sucks for howard, but to a guy like me, I woulda took that million lol but i can see why he just wanted what was in his contract
SageMode
SageMode - 1/23/2011, 3:53 PM
Don Cheadle was a better choice in my opinion. Im still skeptical about Ruffalo as the Hulk.
TheAdvocate
TheAdvocate - 1/23/2011, 3:54 PM
Though Marvel was able to go on without him. I certainly had issues with his replacement. That is to say, there was a considerable personality change with the Rhodey II v. Rhodey I. As such, I think the movie lacked character continuity in regards to James Rhodes personality. That is not to say that I do not like Don Cheadle as an actor. I just did not care for his James Rhodes portrayal. It seemed a bit dry and to the letter if you ask me.

"But you don't have to take my word for it" - RR
sofakinghigh
sofakinghigh - 1/23/2011, 3:54 PM
@AiyalKilU

Fair enough mate. Personally i thought Terrence howard had way better chemistry with RDJ than cheadle did so was bit dissapointed they dropped him
LucasMend
LucasMend - 1/23/2011, 4:03 PM
he was a good rhodey, but hell he would look weird on the war machine suit.
Still I think he could do a pretty good job as Falcon. nice find man!
ablee337
ablee337 - 1/23/2011, 4:04 PM
I love Don Cheadle, ever since I saw him in "Boogie Nights", but Terrence Howard was more interesting as Rhodes.
Radsavage1
Radsavage1 - 1/23/2011, 4:09 PM
I thought Terrence Howard was to soft for the role. Don Cheedle was ok but I still think Michael Jai White should have been cast as Rhodey.
Angelus
Angelus - 1/23/2011, 4:19 PM


BMP!
SoulAllFlush
SoulAllFlush - 1/23/2011, 4:26 PM
Some companies like to welch on their contracts
JackBauer
JackBauer - 1/23/2011, 4:33 PM
I can sympathize with Howard on this. Pretty much the same thing is happening to the company I work for. We were low bidder on a project. The contractor agreed to our price. A contract was signed and then out of the blue they decided they weren't going to pay us what everyone agreed to. A $750,000 contract is now worth about $500,000. Unfortunately, this is one of the few jobs we have right now so we pretty much have no choice but to bend over and take it.
luckylu
luckylu - 1/23/2011, 4:49 PM
i can respect that. after how horrible iron man 2 was i would be pretty happy i was dropped. terrence will go on and make more great movies.
BackwardGalaxy
BackwardGalaxy - 1/23/2011, 4:49 PM
I don't blame Howard. He is not the first actor Marvel has treated this way, and he won't be the last. In a way, I don't even blame Marvel. They are going to have to recast roles in the future to keep these franchises going, so they probably figure they can just start right away and save some money in the process.
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 1/23/2011, 4:50 PM
If this how it went down, then they were wrong for doing that to him. At the same time, $1 million is a lot of money to make for a few months of work if you're looking at it relative to the average person instead of other actors, so it might have been worth it to just deal with it. Now Cheadle is looking at a potential spin-off.
Anyway, this and the Norton incident make me think that someone involved with the financial stuff at Marvel Studios is a real a-hole.
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/23/2011, 4:58 PM
oh well,bad luck mate.

its not end of the world,move on see if you can get cast in a dc movie.
SmokinIndo
SmokinIndo - 1/23/2011, 5:04 PM
In Hollywood, aren't contracts just pieces of paper that don't mean jack? I'm pretty sure that Jon Favreau had a contract, and he spit all over that by bailing on the third film. If the contract is that worthless, then Marvel did right by telling Howard he'd be getting his pay cut. Rhodey shouldn't be making more money than Stark.

Another thing is... why do people assume that it's ALL about money? Jon Favreau even said that he had a hard time working with Terrence on set, and that Cheadle was his first choice originally.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 1/23/2011, 5:06 PM
I think that Don Cheadle is much better as Rhodey, but in all fairness, it sounds like Marvel treated Howard pretty badly. Even so, what he's not making clear is whether they offered him $8 million or if he demanded it...$1 million is still a lot though. Either way, like I said, I don't really care that he's gone! :P
thedon786
thedon786 - 1/23/2011, 5:10 PM
thats showbusiness
Angelus
Angelus - 1/23/2011, 5:14 PM
@Brazilianbatman - A rapper like this?
CaptainQuirk
CaptainQuirk - 1/23/2011, 5:26 PM
Marvel are tight bastards. This has happened several times now.
Vital
Vital - 1/23/2011, 5:40 PM
Oh please people. You could live your whole life on a Million dollars. Are you [frick]ing kidding me? It's just as selfish as the studios, if not more. The studios are the ones who have to pay for production and what not, so they want a lot of money in return. Besides the fact that 8 million is ridiculous for somebody who isn't that great, and could easily get replaced by another amazing black actor, hell, Will Smith runs miles around Howard. He is the only person I think is worthy of 8 million. It's all ridiculous though, cause a million is more than enough. You're car insurance, phone bill, entertainment bills, and house don't cost a million dollars. Unless he bought a mansion (which he doesn't need but whatever). If you have money, you can buy whatever you want, but remember that if you buy something too expensive and have to make payments on it and don't have the income to support it, don't buy it. It's common knowledge.

He isn't even the star of the film! He is a side character. That's it. The production crew and writers should be getting that kind of money, not an actor who sounds the same in every movie he's in and thinks he is worth 8 million dollars. It's ridiculous! I think Hollywood needs humble actors who will do it for what they think they are actually worth realistically. I bet you they paid Andrew Garfield jack shit for the leading role in SPIDERMAN. Not a side character, a sidekick to Spiderman, but Spiderman himself. I doubt he got 8 million dollars, let alone 1 million (maybe he did get 1 million cause that seems about right).

I don't blame Marvel for this one bit. "Oh yeah, you think you're hot shit well we got a guy who will do it for half of that and will enjoy it". That's why you see Chris Hemsworth all humble cause he appreciates what is given to him. He has class. Other "stars" need to know that they aren't as awesome as they think they are. (I don't think Howard sucks at all don't get me wrong but come on, for the role of Rhodey?)
Timerider84
Timerider84 - 1/23/2011, 5:42 PM
That's a bunch of crap, Marvel is cheap period!! Which is why instead of listening to the fans who adore Edward Norton as Bruce Banner, they go for the much cheaper actor who will do it for half the price of Norton.

In the words of Jack Nicholson, "You can't handle the truth." Sad but VERY true.
Timerider84
Timerider84 - 1/23/2011, 5:45 PM
@ Vital, if someone told you they were giving you 8 million dollars to return for two more films and even put it in a contract for you to sign, and then they sorry, but we changed our minds. Here's 1 million, will you come back?

I would have done the same thing. Edward Norton is.
zionkat
zionkat - 1/23/2011, 5:52 PM
And ironically, because of penny-pinching practises like this, IRON MAN 2 went on to make faaaar less money than it's potential. Terence Howard and Downey had a screen chemistry which was simply not there with Don Cheadle, an amazing actor who gave his worst performance ever in IRON MAN 2.
gunner
gunner - 1/23/2011, 6:03 PM
Cheadle is a Great actor , but he was at best Aloof in the Role ...Howard had a much better Chemistry with downey, it's too bad . ( Cheadle Sucked and took the Check )
I really liked Terrence in the Part.
In short ZIONKAT Nailed it in his comment.
zionkat
zionkat - 1/23/2011, 6:09 PM
And ironically, because of penny-pinching practises like this, IRON MAN 2 went on to make faaaar less money than it's potential. Terence Howard and Downey had a screen chemistry which was simply not there with Don Cheadle, an amazing actor who gave his worst performance ever in IRON MAN 2.
whytry2hard
whytry2hard - 1/23/2011, 6:41 PM
he's still whining about this?
TheNameIsBetty
TheNameIsBetty - 1/23/2011, 6:47 PM
Does Grif like anything?
AdamMichaels
AdamMichaels - 1/23/2011, 6:49 PM
Don't compare Norton with Howard please.

Edward Norton's relationship with Marvel Studios soured over creative differences. He was not happy with all the material they left out after the final edit of The Incredible Hulk. Material he felt was essential to the story. Things pretty much got to the point of no return. But from what I understand, it all ended amicably.

Terrence Howard, however, was all about business. Sure, Favreau stated that he reshot many of Howard's scenes and had to cut out others including Rhodey, but Marvel Studios were still willing to stick with Howard, even if they didn't want him back. If there is truth to the "you have 30 minutes to give us your answer" claim, then yes, that's pretty sheisty of Marvel Studios. But they didn't move forward until Terrence refused the paycut. It's not like they cast Cheadle and never told Howard to report on set. They were still upfront about it.

And if I know anything about contracts, Howard must've made a lot of cash when Marvel Studios bought out the remainder of his contract. And he didn't need to lift a finger.

I don't blame Howard for refusing either. Some of you talk like it's so easy to go from 8-Million to 1-Million. Any of those amounts is a lot of money to us. But the truth is, if Marvel Studios initially signed Howard for 8-Million, then it's his right to want that 8-Million. He's not to blame if Marvel Studios signed him for that much. Don't go around saying he should've taken the cut because 1-Million is a lot of money too. That's no small paycut. That's 7-Million dollars less than what they signed you for. If they asked him to take 5-Million instead of 8, I'd say fine, Howard should've accepted. But to go from 8 to 1? No way man, I'd've done the same thing as Howard.

Imagine working a 25$/hour job. If the company asks you to work 22$/hour instead, then it's a manageable paycut. But if they ask you to take 16$/hour instead, then you will flat out refuse. Marvel Studios basically asked Howard to go from 25/hour to 16/hour. That's a huge paycut. Even if 1-Million is a whole lotta money in our eyes.

To me, Marvel Studios is right and Terrence Howard is right. Only part I find sheisty is if MS gave Howard 30 minutes to give his answer. If that is true, of course.
PacificOrca
PacificOrca - 1/23/2011, 6:56 PM
I don't buy the story. If he had a legal contract with Marvel, then he could successfully sue them. The facts just don't add up.

After this, there was the Norton firing. I think it's obvious that Marvel is sending a message to its actors: the franchise is more important that your involvement. By firing Howard and Norton early on, they've set up a smart plan for the future of their Cinematic Universe. Actors will quit, die, be fired, or otherwise move on, but the Universe will continue.

That's why Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje from Lost will NEVER be the Black Panther. He proved himself to not be a team player while on that show, even making ridiculous demands to be paid 3 times the amount as the main characters just for a cameo in the series finale.

By firing Howard and Norton so early on, Marvel is showing us that they're not interested in future reboots of their trademarks. Let's all hope it works out for them.
Grimm
Grimm - 1/23/2011, 7:01 PM
Greed... It would take me 4 years here risking my life to make a million dollars. Howard needed the career injection more than the money. I'm sure the "contract" was contingent on the three movies being made and successful in the first place. He would have been a better Rhody, but again...comic book and really just an accessory to Iron Man...kinda like Banner is an accessory to the hulk, I didn't watch the hulk movies to see Bana or Norton act their asses off, I watched to see the Hulk [frick] shit up...
Grimm
Grimm - 1/23/2011, 7:02 PM
BTW @teabag... what this article has to do with a hookers ass and a tramp stamp escapes me...
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