JUSTICE LEAGUE Director Zack Snyder Reveals How Cyborg And The Flash's Powers Differ In His Cut

JUSTICE LEAGUE Director Zack Snyder Reveals How Cyborg And The Flash's Powers Differ In His Cut

Justice League director Zack Snyder has shared some new intel on how he plans to portray Cyborg and the Flash's powers in the "Snyder Cut," revealing what we won't see the Scarlet Speedster do here...

By JoshWilding - Nov 24, 2020 01:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League

Zack Snyder continues to drop hints about what we can expect from his version of Justice League, as well as how it will differ from the cut Joss Whedon delivered to theaters back in 2017. This time, the filmmaker has shed some light on both the Flash and Cyborg, detailing how their powers will be portrayed in his HBO Max miniseries. 

When it comes to the Fastest Man Alive, Snyder isn't on board with Barry Allen using his super speed to transport people from one place to another as he doesn't believe that's how his powers work. 

"I didn’t like, and I don’t like, Barry being able to move people. I know a lot of people loved that aspect of it, I just don’t. And it’s fine, I think it’s cool when people do, but I just don’t," Snyder reveals. "If you grab someone, and you can say they’re protected by the Speed Force, but that’s, you know, up to interpretation. I feel like if you grab someone at the speed he’s moving, you can just, like, literally just tear their arm out of its socket. He’s moving so fast it would just literally peel the flesh off of somebody’s body, so he’s gotta be super careful with humans inside of the Speed Force."

In Whedon's Justice League, Barry moved a lot of people around in a final act it's believed the filmmaker completely reshot (adding that Russian family to the mix). As for Cyborg, Snyder made it clear that Victor Stone - and the audience - aren't entirely sure how his powers work at this stage.

"Frankly, I don't think we still know what Cyborg's powers are," he teased. "If you look at what these Mother Boxes are capable of - world-creating and world-destroying - I think that, what he's able to do, is really just the tip of the iceberg compared to what is possible for the future of him."

Snyder would go on to reveal that it's Cyborg piloting the ship during that final scene, and not Alfred Pennyworth as many have theorised.

The more the director says, the clearer it becomes that the Justice League coming to HBO Max next year will be a completely different beast to the theatrical cut. 


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10. Why Jimmy Olsen Had To Die

Jimmy

Snyder has previously explained that he wanted to do something fun with Jimmy Olsen due to not having room for the character in his vision of the DC Universe and, as we're all now aware, that involved blowing his brains out in the opening few minutes of Batman v Superman!

Why did Jimmy go from loveable photographer to dead C.I.A. agent? "I just liked the idea that Jimmy was a spook for the CIA," Snyder explains. "I always felt like Jimmy, you know, never was capable, that capable, and to see him be like speak a foreign language."

Sadly, Snyder would confirm that there's no way Jimmy comes back in the Snyder Cut. "People always ask me if he's dead, do we see him again, does he come back to life. I don't think so. It implies a bigger universe. It implies that these dominos are falling as we go forward."
 

9. The Secret Origins Of LexCorp's Sign

Lex-Corp

Jesse Eisenberg's charismatic Lex Luthor wasn't to everyone's liking in Batman v Superman, but we're going to choose to blame that on the jar of pee he decided to unleash as his weapon. 

That aside, and this version of Lex was surprisingly complex, something Snyder confirmed during last night's live commentary. He revealed that the retro LexCorp sign hanging up in the basketball court where we first meet the villain is the last piece of the company his father built.

Given how twisted this Lex is, it wouldn't surprise us if it was some sort of sick trophy...
 

8. Martian Manhunter's Batman v Superman Role

Harry-Lennix

Among the many reveals shared by Snyder on Vero is that he planned to have Harry Lennix's General Swanwick outed as Justice League member Martian Manhunter. 

However, the filmmaker has now confirmed that the hero in disguise knows Superman's biggest secret!

"Harry Lennix is pretending to be a human being but does a great job, but has this relationship with Lois that started in Man of Steel if you kind of track their relationship," Snyder said of his role in Batman v Superman. "Harry understands there's a relationship between Lois and Clark, who he knows, of course, is Superman."
 

7. Why Wonder Woman Led The Trinity

Trinity

A lot of fanboys aren't on board with female superheroes receiving the spotlight on the silver screen, so Gal Gadot's badass Wonder Woman leading the charge against Doomsday back in 2016 didn't exactly sit right with some of them. 

Snyder provided an explanation during this live commentary, explaining that Diana Prince took the lead because she has more fighting experience than both Batman and Superman combined. Though Bruce Wayne has spent decades fighting Gotham City's scum, and Clark Kent bested Zod in a fight to the death, Wonder Woman has the advantage of having fought monsters before.

Batman and Superman weren't to know that, of course, but this explains her placement when DC's Trinity came together in live-action for the first time!
 

6. The Snyder Cut Is The Real Batman v Superman Sequel

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Snyder has not seen Joss Whedon's Justice League and understandably has no interest in doing so. The subject of the Snyder Cut wasn't one which really came up during his live commentary, but he did take a not so subtle shot at the theatrical version in the stream's closing minutes. 

"You know what? I think they should make a sequel to his movie someday," he joked. "That would be amazing. That would really be something else. I want to know what happens to these guys. I mean, don't they eventually, I don't know, form some-" with the feed then cutting off before he finished.

Snyder clearly, and rightly, feels that the unseen Snyder Cut is the true sequel to Batman v Superman!
 

5. Was It All Just A Dream?

Knightmare

With Justice League torn up by Joss Whedon and the sequel clearly never seeing the light of day, fans remain as confused as ever about the meaning behind the Knightmare sequence and the Flash's visit from the future. 

Snyder himself seems every bit as confused as he used vague terms to describe what was happening. "I guess it's boring for him waiting for it to decrypt so he fell asleep, maybe or I'm not sure."

"Maybe it's a by-product of Flash cracking on the cosmic treadmill or whether it creates some sort of rift where it allows Batman to see into the future," he teased. "It could be a combo of those things." Something tells us it probably wasn't just a dream, and that the director had some sort of plan for explaining what we were seeing!
 

4. Aquaman's Original Post-Batman v Superman Role

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Aquaman's entire Justice League subplot ended up being cut by Joss Whedon, but Snyder used this video to drop at least a few hints about what he envisioned coming next for the hunky hero.

"The concept here was that he had his, to me it was that he had probably trained with his mother's trident a couple of times with Vulko, but he wasn't keeping it himself," Snyder explained. "So Vulko kept the trident with him and, as needed, if they were training or [whatever], he would get it from him, but he'd always give it back. But he never took it up as like a real mantle."

That would explain why he didn't have it in Batman v Superman (and Justice League), but it was eventually James Wan's Aquaman movie which was tasked with addressing this plot hole.
 

3. A Man Of Steel/Batman v Superman Super Cut

Man-of-Steel

We keep hearing all this talk of a Snyder Cut, but could there be another "cut" Snyder has in mind?

Though it sounds doubtful that it's something the filmmaker himself will be responsible for, he did tease the possibility of some sort of Man of Steel/Batman v Superman mega cut. "I wonder if anyone's ever done a five-hour cut, which would basically just be editing these two parts of the movie together, carefully," he wondered aloud.

"I've never seen that. I'm sure it exists online somewhere, where they match up all of these moments so that they're happening simultaneously. I don't know if anyone's done that. I'd have to look, but it feels like a cool thing to do, because it would all -- it all should match up pretty well. Because they're right below -- they're fighting right below. It could be kind of cool."
 

2. The Importance Of Martha

Martha

We're all sick of hearing about that big Martha scene, but Snyder did try to clear a few things up last night. After explaining that Batman has lost his moral compass after spending decades in Gotham City, the director explained, "The whole idea of this movie is to create this arc where [Batman] confronts Superman’s humanity, that he finds himself again."

"That’s what the thesis of this thing is, that we’re all humans and that we all connect on a level. Our mothers have the same name. That is really sort of this fundamental, ‘we both have a mother, so we are both human.’ Even though Superman is from another planet, his connection to humanity is so clean that Batman is able to re-energize himself."

Batman v Superman didn't do a terrible job with the scene, but it became a moment many so-called "fans" took great delight in ridiculing in the months following the film's theatrical release.
 

1. Zack Snyder Isn't Fazed By Killer Batman Complaints

Bats

A real sticking point for a lot of Batman v Superman's detractors has been the decision to have the Dark Knight indiscriminently kill the criminals he crosses paths with. Snyder, however, remains unfazed by such criticisms based on comments made during last night's live commentary.

"I'm sure these guys are fine," he mocked during the violent Batmobile chase sequence. "They're going to be 100% okay. There's no way they're dead. We should have done like an A-team style shot of them getting up on the side of the road. For the PG-13 version."

The filmmaker further mocked these criticisms by poking fun at one of Batman's victims! "He shouldn’t of pulled that grenade, that’s his fault." Clearly, Snyder's not sweating the small stuff.
 

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Knightrider
Knightrider - 11/24/2020, 2:04 AM
His own logic makes no sense. You either have Barry protect and protecting others via the speed force or you apply real world physics.

Barry’s own body would be ripped to shreds before he even moved anyone if we are going to be realistic. I have always liked the idea of the speed force as it suggests it is a different reality, a slip stream you can be pulled into.

Also if we are applying real world physics, the in Batman v Superman, Batman is dead as Superman slams into him at a hundred miles an hour and is so fast they fly through several floors of a building without slowing down
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 11/24/2020, 2:06 AM
@Knightrider - yeah physics isn't Zack ''like, you know'' Snyder's best field
aresww3
aresww3 - 11/24/2020, 2:08 AM
@Knightrider - oh no snyder having ideas again. he tries to be science accurate, yet his movies lack logic most of any superhero movie.
bman263
bman263 - 11/24/2020, 2:08 AM
@bkmeijer - Man of "you know" steel
Knightrider
Knightrider - 11/24/2020, 2:10 AM
@aresww3 - The thing is, you can have crazy mixed up physics and rules in movies, but once you establish what the rules are you can’t break them. Snyder clearly does with this comment, as he had Batman tossed around at speed by Superman.
aresww3
aresww3 - 11/24/2020, 2:11 AM
@Knightrider - also in man of steel superman flying through a building would not collapse the whole thing. he's not a big enough object for that to happen. it was like they smashed into a skyscraper, through the glass and the whole building collapsed.

what about everything being sucked into black hole but Lois Lane keeps falling? or a blackhole being opened on Earth and not sucking our whole galaxy into it? Snyder's movies literally hurt my head.
Sonata92
Sonata92 - 11/24/2020, 4:59 AM
@aresww3 - In what scene did Superman collapse a whole building just by flying through it. That first building that collapsed in the fight with Zod which turned out to be a Wayne enterprises building was sliced apart by Zods uncontrolled heat vision.

When falling back to earth from fighting Zod in space they brought along the debris of the Wayne satellite which together smashed into a Lexcorp tower resulting in only the top of the building collapsing.
Matador
Matador - 11/24/2020, 5:00 AM
@Knightrider - I remember in The Flash TV series from the 80's where his body changed to adapt with how fast he was moving to healing except his cloths which is why he had to wear that special suit.
But still Snyder is reflecting on A-Train speed of decapitation's.
aresww3
aresww3 - 11/24/2020, 8:46 AM
@Sonata92 - just checked. you are right.
but you have to admit the black hole they open in the city that sucks everything in apart from Lois was pretty dumb.
JonC
JonC - 11/24/2020, 8:56 AM
@Knightrider - Real world physics... any hit by Superman to Batman... in an armor suit or not is going to put Batman down...
..nuff said.
dracula
dracula - 11/24/2020, 2:06 AM
Then what is the point of the Flash being there, if he can't grab anything then he is just a guy who runs fast. What is he going to do, crash into Steppenwolf over and over again.

So Cyborg is just the deus ex machina. In the WB cut, Superman was pointless, only being there because they needed him for the final battle (Should have went the Superman TAS Legacy route), but if Cyborg is that powerful, then I guess Superman will be even more pointless here.

This is going to be worst than BVS isn't it
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 11/24/2020, 9:30 AM
@dracula - To be fair I think “powerful” here can mean different things. Cyborgs powerset could allow him to control every computer on the planet, but that wouldn’t make him as strong, fast, or invulnerable as Superman.
bman263
bman263 - 11/24/2020, 2:08 AM
It was already clearly [frick]ing clear from the theatrical cut.
Thanks for nothing Zack.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 11/24/2020, 2:08 AM
The more I read about how Snyder approaches the DC Universe, the more I think he should've made his own superhero universe like The Boys.
dracula
dracula - 11/24/2020, 2:10 AM
@bkmeijer - Seriously his take on DC is more like The Boys , minus the personality than it is DC
KWilly
KWilly - 11/24/2020, 4:21 AM
@bkmeijer - I'm so glad he never got his hands on any Marvel property
dracula
dracula - 11/24/2020, 2:09 AM
His logic is crazy contradictory, seriously either play it realistic or embrace the comic logic, cant have both.
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