Are Superheroes Still Super!?!?!?!?

Are Superheroes Still Super!?!?!?!?

My review of the recent Comic Book Movie article in Entertainment Weekly

Editorial Opinion
By NightBat - Jul 17, 2010 04:07 PM EST
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That is the title to an article in the new Entertainment Weekly written by Jeff Jensen. While the article is written well, there is one very questionable snub.

The article (which I couldn’t find a link for) states that “In the aftermath of Christopher Nolan’s $533 million-grossing The Dark Knight-and the relative failure of the earnest Superman Returns-Hollywood became glib and grim about superheroes, with mixed results. Zach Snyder’s epic translation of Watchmen grossed just $107 million, in part because it connected best with more hardcore fans. Already this year the edgy Jonah Hex (think Ghost Rider-goes-country) tanked, and Kick-Ass, Matthew Vaughn’s witty adaptation of the ironic meta-hero, arrived in theaters with great reviews and still mustered only $48 million. The buzzy Scott Pilgrim vs. the World-a quirky romantic comedy that spoofs both superhero and videogame conventions-hopes to fare better when it opens next month. The year of superhero irreverence will conclude with the animated Megamind”.

WHAT? FIRST of all, where was the mention of, what’s it called again? IRON MAN?? According to Wikipedia, “In its opening weekend, Iron Man grossed $98,618,668 in 4,105 theaters in the United States and Canada, ranking number one at the box office,[89] giving it the 11th-biggest opening weekend".

The only mention of Iron Man at all was in a small blurb about the “Marvel revolution of the ‘60s”. As a DC fan, not only did I think Iron Man was an amazing CBM but a really great action packed movie alone, without looking at the Comic Book elements.

Kick-Ass was made for specific audiences. Non Horror movie fans aren’t going to rush out to see the next great Horror film, they won’t advertise in Fancy Cat Outfit magazine (which they should, I would order a year subscription just for that). For a CBM character that has only been around (the movie rights optioned before the book was released) since 2008, I think the box office numbers are pretty darn good, The Hurt Locker (which I really enjoyed) is the lowest grossing film to win the Best Picture Oscar. There are a couple different reasons for this, check sources below.

The point is that it’s not always about money, if that was the case then Superman Returns did just fine….it grossed over $200 million in the United States alone. What member on here holds THAT movie as THE CBM to go to?? (sorry if you liked it haha)

Not every CBM makes $800 gazillion dollars but neither do NON CBMs, the movie studios owe A LOT to Comic Book related material and they know it....

I won’t comment on the Spider-Man reboot because we hardly know anything about it. What I will say is this..More than a couple of years ago I was sitting in a theater and a preview came up on the screen. When the first image appeared on the screen, the people sitting behind me said, “OH NO, not ANOTHER one!!” That preview was Batman Begins..

For sales figures vist Wikipedia.

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TheUnknown
TheUnknown - 7/17/2010, 8:27 PM
I think it's due to Pre-sold franchises. Average movie goer knows and recognizes Batman, Superman, Spiderman, and Iron-Man (to a degree)the actors and filmmakers, but don't know about other CBMs like Kick-Ass and Jonah Hex.

BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 7/17/2010, 9:44 PM
Great ending there with the Batman Begins thing. Sentiment toward a franchise changes so quickly. I have a feeling people wont be very enthusiastic about this new Spider-man bo matter how good it is, because in general, the world hated Spider-man 3.
AverageCitizen99
AverageCitizen99 - 7/18/2010, 12:58 AM
You make some good points. 'Kick-Ass' didn't do as well because no one outside of our minority know a thing about the character, and the same will more than likely go with Scott Pilgrim. The reboot for Spider-Man will be something we'll have to wait and see though, like you said.

@BIGBMH
"I have a feeling people wont be very enthusiastic about this new Spider-man bo matter how good it is, because in general, the world hated Spider-man 3. "

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that. The world doesn't hate the third film, we do. The general audience concensus (discluding us) towards the film was that it bordered between decent and mediocre. Regardless of the third film, enough time will have passed for this one to work. And this is a Spider-Man film, so regardless of the previous endeavor people will go out to see this whether it was because they liked the trailer or because they just want to see the film since it is a Spider-Man film ... in 3-D.
Ven0m
Ven0m - 7/18/2010, 11:32 AM
Everyone I have talked to spider fan or not has not said one good thing about spiderman 3. I have not meet one person that has liked it.
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 7/18/2010, 12:32 PM
I loved Spider-Man 3. I find it amazing that most people here didn't like it.
Ven0m
Ven0m - 7/18/2010, 1:13 PM
Yall are sick in the head and you shouldnt call yourselves comic book fans.
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 7/18/2010, 1:40 PM
@Ven0m It's all a matter of opinion. I loved Spider-Man 3. Got a problem with that? I am not "sick in the head." I've been reading comics for about eight years. I am Spider-Man fan. (Number one to be exact). Calling someone sick in the head is very low-class for someone called Ven0m.
Ven0m
Ven0m - 7/18/2010, 2:35 PM
No low class is your acceptance of that p.o.s you call a great movie. If you were number 1 fan then you wouldnt have liked how they destroyed the origins of VENOM! Casted a shitty actor to be Eddie Brock! And Sam Raimi raped the Symbiote Story Arc. There is no reason explation as to why you could not Adapt that story arc to film. There was no reason to change it. Also killing Venom off in the end... FFS seriously. Venom almost kills spiderman in a lot of their encounters. Im sorry you sir are no true fan.
NightBat
NightBat - 7/18/2010, 3:18 PM
@Ven0m and @Destroyer14..there is no need for name calling, remember, we all have our own opinions. I agree that Spiderman 3 was not that great of a CBM, when I first saw it I liked a lot of things about it but mostly it was just visual..the story was really bad. I bought it on dvd hoping that there were more redeemable qualities to it....but no....
@Destroyer14, it's AWESOME that you have been reading Comic Books for about eight years and I hope that you continue to do so but I think what VenOM is trying to say is that Spiderman 3 did ruin Venom and IMO make a mockery of the entire symbiote storyline....even though Venom did LOOK pretty cool. I also think that they killed off the character because it's noted that Sam Raimi wasn't a fan of having to use Venom and was most likely just getting him out of the way to clear room for Spiderman 4. Not all studios give the director creative freedom like WB does with Christopher Nolan..

@Destroyer14..go back and read the symbiote storyline if you haven't already or even watch the old 1994 Spiderman cartoon,even the cartoon did a better job. I think as a true Spiderman fan that you say you are, you will start seeing the major errors and major problems some of us have with how the entire character and storyliine was portrayed in the movie

@Ven0m..let's try and nurture those we think don't understand why things like Spiderman 3 missed the mark instead of calling them names....remember, we are all Comic Book fans
Ven0m
Ven0m - 7/18/2010, 3:29 PM
@ Destroyer I sorry for calling you names. I have the username Venom for a reason its because he is my favorite Villian/Anti Hero of ALL time. I happen to be a big spiderman fan as well. If you liked SP3 as a film seperate from its comic origin then great I have no issue with that. It however doesnt deserve to be called a CBM. That movie left a very sour taste.
Ven0m
Ven0m - 7/18/2010, 3:31 PM
Ya and I agree with the Bats. If you have not read the Symbiote story arc. Defiantely need to pick that ups.
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 7/18/2010, 3:36 PM
@Ven0m I am a huge Venom fan myself. I was disappointed in how he was portrayed in the film, but I thought they did an okay job. His transformation is the coolest scene in movie history in my opinion. I have read the symboite arc. I've read most of the symboite stories. I agree with NightBat that the 90's show did Venom the best.
NightBat
NightBat - 7/18/2010, 4:43 PM
YAY..we can all get along haha..

@Ven0m..you called me "The Bats"....awesome!
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