Comic Book Movies at a Crossroads

Audiences in 2012 will decide the future of the comic book movie genre

Editorial Opinion
By nuclear139 - Jun 12, 2012 06:06 PM EST
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In this faux war between The Dark Knight Rises and The Avengers fan boys talk up which film will be the best and who will be king this year at the box office but what is lost by these endless debates is the influence of these films upon future comic book adaptions. The stakes are awfully high this summer with two clear comic book heavyweights at the box that are as different from each other as can possibly be and with Hollywood studios looking on to say the direction of upcoming CBM's hangs in the balance would be a gross understatement. This year marks a crossroads for comic book movies where audiences will decide which path they want the genre to take for years to come. Marvel over the past four years has blazed a trail through Hollywood with light colorful heroes with cross generational appeal and intriguing stories that are not weighted down by complex themes or the heavy melodrama found in other comic book adaptions. Entering 2012 it was clear that The Avengers was Marvel's path forward for its cinematic universe and it offered filmmakers a blueprint for future CBM'S to follow. The Avengers showcased classic superheroes that appealed to family audiences with a story that had an entertaining blend of humor and suspense as well as breath taking action sequences. This year will also introduce audiences to a more serious and gritty superhero in Christopher Nolan's final installment of his Batman trilogy The Dark Knight Rises; it takes the genre in a different direction with its complex adult themes, high drama and nail biting action that is certain to have people on the edge of their seats. If as Batman fans hope TDKR is successful critically and culturally it may influence other directors to create comic book adaptions that'll further expand and explore the limits of the genre. I want to emphasis that 2012 could not be more important to comic book fans because Fox, Sony and Warner Brothers all properties in development such as Fantastic Four, Flash and they will be gauging audience and fan reaction to these films so they can determine the tone for their new franchises.

With The Avengers currently at number three at the box offices it seems as if the direction for future CBM's is set. Marvel has created superheroes that are a throwback to the days of Adam West and George Reeves. They are fun characters that don't take themselves too seriously, they have captured the imaginations of children as well as adults therefore they are easily marketable and can lead to various spinoff franchises of other heroes (Black Widow, Hawkeye), and it's because of this as well as its $1.4 billion at the box office also the billions it will make from Blu-ray and on demand sales that has made The Avengers the big studios must have comic book franchise. As studios in the future seek to model there comic book adaptions on successful Marvel properties any filmmaker who loves his/her job well be looking to The Avengers as a blue print for their films. Think about it you could make a light superhero film with CGI action sequences, big name talents and a simple story that balances elements of humor with drama that is certain to bring in millions with tie ins and toy sells which can lead to spinoffs as well as possible sequels or you could make a gritty more dramatic film that have adult themes, complex storylines and an emotional scarred or psychological damaged superhero as director or producer if you love your job the former movie is your safest choice. For a young upcoming directors like Chronicle's Josh Trank this is an easy career choice and working on a big comic book adaption can expose you to a much wider audience as well as being a spring board for future projects. This may be why Hollywood will for the foreseeable future create lighter more family oriented superhero films that the studios can then profit off by making truly ungodly amounts of money in merchandising and on property rights.

Even if (hyperbolically speaking) The Dark Rises makes $3 billion and becomes the worlds all time highest grossing movie it may not be able to match The Avengers influence on Hollywood. Currently it is safer to do lighter adaptions because even if it fails its appeal to children and it's built in fan base can still help it to sell video games and toys because of this TDKR may well be the last of a dying breed of CBM's. After 911 a comic adaptions were getting edgier, darker there was Hellboy followed a year later by the non-hero film History of Violence, then Alan Moore's V for Vendetta and among them was Nolan's Batman Begins followed three years later with The Dark Knight. What Nolan created was a comic book adaption that explored the complex dark nature of its superhero and allow the audience to journey into the characters life in a way that connected them with the hero. His greatest achievement is that he gave Hollywood an example of what a comic book move based on a superhero can achieve as a piece of cinema and shown the world that movies inspired by graphic novels can become great stories. So come July 20 when The Dark Knight Rises is released it may not only be the end to a Batman era but bring to a close an era of more serious comic book adaptions. Understand after Nolan there may be no other filmmakers who are willing to the take the risk of making superhero films that tackles mature themes, current events like terrorism or show the troubled psyches and the darker side of our favorite heroes' lives. Why would anyone when it's possible to make a fun, family friendly comic book movie that could make millions (even the Green Lantern made over $100 million) at the box office without causing controversy about the topics touched or images shown in more serious adaptions.

As Variety has reported Warner Brothers has been working on a script of a Justice League movie and has several comic properties in the early stages of development, Fox has another Wolverine film ready to begin production, X-Men Frist Class sequel also a Fantastic Four reboot and Marvel Studios is entering another phase with their films and they have two comic book movies debuting each year so the next few years will be very busy time for the genre. The direction these studios will take with these upcoming CBM's could be decided by fans, audiences and critics this year and if The Avengers succeeds with Hollywood studios as it has with fans than the course is set for these comic adaptions. For fans who love superheroes in the classic mold the type that never sweats in a challenge or fails to save the day and who values action as the most critical element in a comic book movie there could not be better news than to say they are guaranteed to see their favorite heroes fill that role on screen for years to come. As for those fans who love nothing more than to see a great story, villains that can break the spirits of their heroes and offer them an intellectual, moral as well as physical challenge that strikes at the core of their being as well as dynamic heroes that can suffer, fail and grow as their life experience changes will be bitterly disappointed in the coming years as Hollywood seeks comic adaptions that are less dramatic, heavier on action, lighter in tone as well as story that can be easily replicated and mass produced. As any longtime Batman fan know lighter kid friendly movies are not always better and avaricious studios will produce movies that serve no purpose other than to market toys and video games to children irrespective of the comic book backstory. With Christopher Nolan stepping away from the director's chair Batman will be shelved for a few years so that the franchise can be rebooted his work of redrawing the limits of the genre in cinema could possibly fall to Zack Snyder and then it would be left up to the man of steel to once again save the day.
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BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 6/12/2012, 7:25 PM
The Dark Knight Rises is going to be a huge success. Whether or not is makes as much as the Avengers is a pointless argument and if it doesn't, that doesn't mean that there Hollywood will only make lighter comic book movies. Clearly with the previous success of The Dark Knight and now The Avengers, audiences have shown already that they will watch both types of movies. There is room for both types of movies now and always will be. It's about the film makers ensuring that they are choosing the right tone of movie depending on the characters featured. To think that if The Dark Knight Rises makes less money than The Avengers means we won't see anymore comic book movies that tackle more real life situations, is ridiculous.
awesomem131
awesomem131 - 6/12/2012, 7:34 PM
I think the tone of superhero movies should all depend on the character.A good example is the Bryan Singer X-Men films. Those movies went with a more serious and realistic tone thus sacrificing some of the things that made these heroes cool.The Fantastic Four unfortunately suffered from not taking itself seriously enough becoming more like a sitcom than a comicbook film.Daredevil suffered from the exact opposite problem from taking itself too seriously and alienating the hero from the audience.Nolan's Batman films and the Marvel studios films took the weaknesses in those past comic book films and turned them into strengths. Nolan proved that Batman is a hero that should be taken seriously and he set the template for all other heroes like Batman to follow. Marvel had enough faith in their source material to keep the things that where important in their characters and translated them well on screen.To me this is the best formula to follow when doing a Flash movie or a Fantastic Four reboot.You don't have to make these heroes realistic,just keep them grounded. Also i think if TASM goes well it may inspire FOX to kick the FF reboot into high gear and effectively reboot the main X-Men series.
TheMyth
TheMyth - 6/12/2012, 8:00 PM
Nice write up ;)

I think we should continue to get both and all things in between. Just keep them good like the MCU and Batman franchise have been. Attract quality actors and directors, craft fantastic yet believable stories, and consider humor as much as drama. Regardless of how it turns out, this year has been the one to solidify the superhero genre.
Supes17
Supes17 - 6/12/2012, 8:25 PM
I believe that any film that grosses $3billion dollars will DEFINATELY have an influence on Hollywood
antonio
antonio - 6/12/2012, 8:59 PM
Great write up.
Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon - 6/12/2012, 11:49 PM
The only difference I see between Nolan's films and the Marvel films, is that Nolan makes his films more atmospheric.

The Batman films are no less funny/jokey than a Marvel film. (Almost everything with Lucius Fox, Bruce's public playboy persona, about half of the scenes with Alfred, most of the scenes with the Joker, Harvey Dent's big mob court hearing, and from the looks of it A LOT of stuff involving Catwoman.)

And their themes are no heavier than what we've gotten in Marvel films... of racism in X-Men, of responsibility and self-identity from Spider-Man, of the irresponsibility of arms development from Iron Man.

They're no more realistic... a lot of the gadgets are pure science fantasy. (Wouldn't a microwave emitter powerful enough to evaporate an entire city's water supply also evaporate the 75% of water a person is made up of? And don't get me started on that "Batpod coming off of the tumbler" thing...)

Face it. They have all the same ingredients as any other comic movie, they just found a way to make to look fancy. It's all an illusion of seriousness based on artistic differences achieved by using longer establishing shots, slower, more sweeping music, restrained color palettes, and hushed dialogue to make you pay closer attention to what the characters are saying.
batfan175
batfan175 - 6/13/2012, 3:11 AM
I think we're at a crossroads indeed...and I fear the safe, family friendly superhero may just be more popular because it tells a safe story about heroes coming to our rescu when in real life everybody has sold out to corporatism whose ONLY concern is big money and films that are at least adressing the issue may well be drowned by the people who don't want serious discussions in superhero movies, simply because these films make more money for big companies when kids go to see them.

We should get both kinds of films but i fear the powers that be will simply not allow it because it is easier to cater to kids than to adults looking for intellectual entertainment. On the other hand, Nolan's films could be the beginning of the smart blockbuster so maybe we might not get smart and dark superhero films anymore but we might certainly get blockbusters with an arthouse soul (example: Rise of the Planet of the Apes).

It may well have to do with the fact that many people say Nolan does not actually make superhero films with batman and i think it's true to an extent: he wants to make a GOOD FILM, regardless of the source material and I think it's a good thing to have directors take liberties with the source material (why should comicbook artists be the only ones allowed to do it?).
Coldblood6
Coldblood6 - 6/13/2012, 5:02 AM
As a firm supporter of real comicbook superhero movies THE AVENGERS, and the MCU on the whole, has my total support, and I genuinely hope that the fantasy-less, mundane, boring, pretentious bullshit of nolanverse goes the way of the dodo. Curmudgeon is correct; there are relatable adult themes in IRON MAN, THOR, CA:TFA, X-MEN, etc., but they don't use an over-melodramatic, tedious, self-important, narrative style like nolan films to try and fool the feeble minded into thinking they are more than what they are. Unfortunately tdkr will be successful no matter what, but c'est la vie.
Alexandre
Alexandre - 6/13/2012, 6:19 AM
you know what man, no one does what nolan does because they dont have the balls to do it. they're afraid of how the audience will react and most importantly how these [frick]ing fans will react. i say [frick] the fans, do what you wanna do but make it great and ground braking. [frick] the source material, [frick] the looks, [frick] everything. i love these nolan batman films and i love what he's aiming at and i hope other superhero films try doing the same because truth be told they're all a bit too old already and need something fresh and new as with what nolan did to batman.
MisterFixit
MisterFixit - 6/13/2012, 7:31 AM
"if no one does what nolan does because they dont have the balls to do it". I wouldn't boast too much of this, it would mean either that after nolan others are no more trying or they will suck
dezdigi
dezdigi - 6/13/2012, 7:43 AM
I really hope there is room for both in the future. Who wants to eat apples for the rest of their life? Sometimes, a man needs an orange!
Seriously, I love both of these types of films and not all CBMs have been one or the other. For example, X-men was a slight mixture of the two. It all depends on the writing, directing, and acting; these are the things that make a film what it is. There should never be a "template" to follow, it should be fresh every time.
Georgep66
Georgep66 - 6/13/2012, 10:28 AM
I'd rather superhero films be entertaining and cover serious themes in terms of the characters rather than being pretentious and thinking they are bigger than they actually are.
Bumble
Bumble - 6/13/2012, 11:51 AM
It doesn't matter who "wins the battle" the audience in the end has shown that they'll gladly and happily support both types of movies. I doubt that the success of one over the other will drastically change how comic book movies will be handled in the future. Marvel will continue their formula that has worked so well from Iron Man to the Avengers and WB/DC will continue on with their iterations of Batman and Superman.

The truth is, you really can't handle DC and Marvel characters the same. the properties are vastly different at their cores in my opinion. DC has to make their movies darker, grittier and more realistic films to make the characters more believable and interesting. Marvel, on the other hand, can have character driven movies because of how well the characters are fleshed out in the comics and the more current "feel" that their characters have. DC characters, as a great director recently stated, "are outdated and from a by-gone era."
Bumble
Bumble - 6/13/2012, 11:53 AM
Let me just sum the above up that both formulas work. And I doubt that either Marvel or DC will chagne their "modus operandi" based off of what the other is doing (except maybe if DC actual tries to copy Marvel and make a cinematic universe).
AC1
AC1 - 6/13/2012, 12:21 PM
Um... what?
There is no path that is being set for CBMs. That's ridiculous. Avengers has proven that the more lighthearted approach to superheroes works well. The Dark Knight series, however, is a reminder that audiences are hungry for something deeper too. And that's the point - the audiences don't want the same regurgitated shit over and over again. They want variety, and the studios are finally beginning to see that, and realize that certain characters fit into certain types of film.

Both dark films and action packed films are successful in this genre - but that doesn't mean that we'll soon see a Batman film with tonnes of explosions and alien invasions, in the same way that we won't see any dark, complex, gritty Avengers films.

And what you said about post 9/11 CBMs being darker is bullshit. Before 9/11 we had Blade, Two Punisher films (the original 1989 one, and the Tom Jane one), Batman, Batman Returns, and X-Men, and probably more, all of which were quite dark (granted, we also had those shitty Joel Schumacker Batman films, but they don't really count since they were God-awful).
Post 9/11, we got the Spider-Man trilogy, a couple of Fantastic Four films, the first Hulk film, and 6 Marvel Studios films including The Avengers - we also had the darker films like the Blade sequels, the new Batman films, Punisher War Zone and possibly you could include the X-Men sequels, which are all darkish films. If anything, post 9/11 there was a movement toward more variety, meaning we got films that had a lighter tone as well as the usual darker films.
AC1
AC1 - 6/13/2012, 12:34 PM
Even though the hard core comic 'fans' argue stupidly over which is better, the studios aren't going to pay attention to them, for two reasons.
1) WB is in charge of DC - they'll keep doing what they do because it works for them and their fans, conversely Disney is in charge of Marvel, so they'll keep doing their own thing for the same reason.
2) The comic fans make up a tiny percentage of the overall film audience. Remember, film is a business, so the studios are going to keep making the types of films that will earn them the most money. The darker path is working well for DC, and the light hearted path is great for Marvel, so they aren't going to change. In fact, the failure of Green Lantern could be an example of that, as it was an incredibly light hearted film, especially for DC, and it came across as not only forced, but childish. WB tried to emulate Marvel's tone and they couldn't do it right. They won't make that mistake again, no matter how much money Marvel makes with The Avengers. They may take some tips from Marvel's method, but they'll never try to copy them outright if they know what they're doing - they'll stick to what has worked best for them, which is more mature, serious (although not necessarily dark) films.
Minotauro
Minotauro - 6/13/2012, 12:42 PM
@ColdBlood - "As a firm supporter of real comicbook superhero movies THE AVENGERS, and the MCU on the whole, has my total support"

You lost all credibility with this commment. Don't talk like you know whats best for the CBMverse.
TheMyth
TheMyth - 6/13/2012, 12:52 PM
ACira, The only real difference between Nolan's movies and the MCU is tone. An intelligent person can tell you that Nolan's Batman movies are no "deeper" than Fox's X-Men franchise. Only dumbass poeple are duped into thinking otherwise. Nolan's Batman flics are good, I love 'em, but they aren't really groundbreaking at all in terms of the atmosphere and progression. Curmudgeon hit the nail on the head with his comment. It has the same elements as any other movie, just masked with a darker tone, which for some reason translates to deep and thoughtful to morons. And whether you believe it or not, studios have entire divisions of market researchers who do in fact look at what us fans say, even down to the most retarded fanboys. If you don't think so then you know NOTHING about market research. This article and all it's comments will be read by some poor [frick] whose job it is to extrapolate as much data from it as he can. If you doubt it then your mind would likely explode if you ever found out just how insanely thorough companies are at gathering market research.
TheMyth
TheMyth - 6/13/2012, 1:24 PM
Minotauro, lol how? Because he said something truthful? I don't agree with the rest of his comment but he's pretty dead on about the MCU in general being the best translation of superheroes onscreen. And if you even think for one second Nolan's Batman captures the superhero genre better then I say YOU have no credibility as anyone who's ever read just 1 Batman comic could tell you that Nolan's rendition, while entertaining, is not a superhero movie, not by a long shot. I'm sure you'll attempt to disagree but that doesn't change the fact that I'm right.
antonio
antonio - 6/13/2012, 3:51 PM
@Acira uh....Tom Jane's Punisher came out in 2004....
Alexandre
Alexandre - 6/13/2012, 5:12 PM
there's a difference between thinking you're right and actually being right
antonio
antonio - 6/13/2012, 5:44 PM
@Alexandre agreed.
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