EDITORIAL: Analyzing the "Realistic Approach" Trend

EDITORIAL: Analyzing the "Realistic Approach" Trend

Nowadays "realism" seems to be all the rage with studios and filmmakers. One movie buff takes an in depth look at the popular trend, and the reasons so many movies aim for that "grounded" approach. Hit the jump to have a look.

Editorial Opinion
By TwistedKingdom - Oct 04, 2014 09:10 PM EST
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Raise your hand if this sounds familiar - a filmmaker gives an interview discussing his upcoming big budget adaptation or reboot. When asked to describe what the film will be like he explains…

 

"We're taking a grounded, more realistic approach".

 

There seems to be two constants in Hollywood - found footage and "realistic" films. Okay, there are a lot more constants than that but these two are up there. It's as if the "realistic" approach has become the go-to answer for today's filmmakers. Here's a fairly recent excerpt.

 

"I've always been interested in Godzilla and the ideas around him. I really wanted to see another Godzilla film and jumped at the opportunity. My main idea was to imagine 'If this really happened, what would it be like?' I want to take a grounded, realistic approach to a Godzilla film." Garth Edwards - director, Godzilla (2014)

 

Here's another.

 

"For me, it was such a unique twist to do a grounded realistic version of the story, and, as Dwayne said, I think it’s very difficult because it’s a story that everybody knows, everyone is familiar with it, so how do we make it modern and contemporary and special?" Brett Ratner - director, Hercules (2014)

 

And let's not forget…

 

“Christopher Nolan and I have been trying to bring the naturalism of the Batman trilogy. Our approach has always been naturalist, realistic; we always try to imagine these stories as if they could happen in the same world in which we live." David S. Goyer - writer, Man of Steel (2013)

And there are more out there, like these, with producers, directors and writers all seemingly reading from the same script. But here's the kicker - it's all lip service. This "realism" thing is just a label. More on that later. First, let's go back to where, arguably, this craze began. 

In 2005 directer/co-writer Christopher Nolan was tasked with resurrecting Warner Bros.' Batman franchise. And resurrect it he did. Nolan and co-writer David S. Goyer did away with the camp, Bat-credit card and florescent pallet Joel Schumacher left in his wake. Batman Begins gave the Caped Crusader his dignity back.

But it was The Dark Knight that shocked all of Hollywood, grossing, a then record, $158M opening weekend, on its way to becoming the first comic book movie ever to gross $1 billion worldwide.

Suddenly, studios, filmmakers and fans took notice of Nolan's approach to the material. He had expressed a desire to "ground" his Batman and Gotham in "a reality". One could argue Nolan made the "grounded, realistic" approach popular.

Just as the NFL is said to be a copycat league, the same could be said for Hollywood. Only it's not a league. And there's no championship trophy at the end of the year. But it's absolutely a copycat industry. If a film or formula strikes gold other studios are quick to try and get in on the action.

"Nolan did the Dark Knight this way and that made over a billion. Well, we're gonna do it that way, too!"

Cut to today and not only are the filmmakers boasting over "realism" in their films but some fans are, as well. Just look at the Marvel vs DC debates on message boards. Ever hear this…

"Marvel does action comedies/kids films but DC movies are more realistic".

So, a number of people have bought into this phenomenon. But, as I mentioned, it's just lip service. Filmmakers tag their films with the "grounded, realistic" label so audiences will take them seriously. The film doesn't have to actually meet the criteria, the director can just mention it in an interview and BOOM! their film is considered "realistic".

Which begs the question…

WHAT MAKES A FILM REALISTIC?

The answer to that is character.

If a writer creates rich, compelling characters with depth and motivations, their actions will drive the course of the story. The choices they make in response to these actions, (for better or worse), determine "realism". Audiences can relate because "that's what they would do" or they understand why these choices are made. 

But that's not what these filmmakers or most fans mean when they bring up "realism". Listen to what most of them are saying and you get the impression they're talking about something else entirely. At which point, I say...

"My main idea was to imagine 'If this really happened, what would it be like?"

 

This seems to be the main belief behind making a film feel "real". The thing is, that's what Hollywood is built on. Movies are multimillion dollar "what if this happened" stories. It's been so for decades. This isn't some new, innovative idea.

War of the Worlds and Invasion of the Body Snatchers showed us different takes on the "what if an alien invasion really happened" idea back in 1953 and 1956 respectfully.

I guess you could include the "real world setting" idea in this, too. Because, unless we're being whisked away to Middle Earth, Tatooine or Sin City, the story taking place in the real world is a given.

The filmmakers quoted above and any others doing the same song and dance aren't offering anything new. Nothing Hollywood hasn't already been doing.

THEY SAY REALISTIC BUT THEY MEAN…

Brace yourself, it's Marvel vs Warner Bros. time. Not so much, one is greater than the other. This is about the "DC films are more realistic" argument. My assumption is the ones saying this are talking about the Dark Knight trilogy and Man of Steel. That being the case, WB's DC films aren't more realistic than Marvel's, they're more serious.

A common criticism with Marvel releases is the humor. "Cracking jokes every five minutes". Or something like that. The MCU is primarily family films. So, in actuality, it all comes down to an issue of tone. People say "grounded, more realistic" but, aware of it or not, they're talking about a more serious tone.

There's really only one film in WB's DCCU, Man of Steel, with a follow up in 2016. Snyder and Goyer call there's a modernized, "realistic take" on the character. MoS isn't a realistic take on the character, it's a pessimistic take. And pessimism is not more realistic than optimism. Neither is a serious tone more than a lighter one.

Batman Begins is no more realistic than Iron Man. Speaking of which:

We have Iron Man, about a billionaire weapons designer who creates a suit of armor to defeat terrorists and a weapons manufacturer. The film takes place in real-life locations (Malibu, Afghanistan) and features heavy US military involvement. While the armors are science fiction, they aren't completely out of the realm of possibility. The film explores themes such as terrorism, weapons manufacturing, big business, and propaganda.

In Batman Begins we’re introduced to the fictional Gotham City. A city literally so bad, The League of Shadows, a brotherhood of assassins responsible for the fall of major societies in history, including Rome, become obsessed with destroying it. Here, we’re given the idea that a city is so corrupt and evil it's beyond saving. A compelling idea but fairly fictitious in today’s society of what we perceive to be a city in the United States. The idea of an Illuminati-esque organization in the League isn't unbelievable but is highly unlikely. Technology wise, Begins can considered sci-fi as well, just not as fantastic as Iron Man.

Food for thought.

IN CLOSING



I thought the best way to close would be with the words of Christopher Nolan himself since many believe he pioneered the "realistic movie" movement. But mostly because, while so many are trying to emulate his approach, they're completely missing what he set out to do. He said this while speaking at the Film Society of Lincoln Center in New York in 2012…

“You try and get the audience to invest in cinematic reality,” he said about his Dark Knight trilogy. “When I talk about reality in these films, it’s often misconstrued as a direct reality, but it’s really about a cinematic reality.”

He went on to say…

"The term 'realism' is often confusing and used sort of arbitrarily. I suppose 'relatable' is the word I would use. I wanted a world that was realistically portrayed, in that even though outlandish events may be taking place, and this extraordinary figure may be walking around these streets, the streets would have the same weight and validity of the streets in any other action movie. So they’d be relatable in that way."

How do you feel about the "grounded, realistic approach" phenomenon? Let's hear your thoughts below and, as always, thanks for reading.

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gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 10/4/2014, 10:35 PM
Now you lost me at pessimism vs optimism. You say that Man of Steel (specifically) isn't a more realistic take, but a more serious take. Then you say it's actually a more pessimistic take, and that pessimism and optimism can equally valid and serious approaches. This part not only confused me, but I somewhat disagree. I'd personally say Man of Steel was about optimism in a pessimistic world, which is a realistic theme in our world today. A real world is naturally pessimistic. A hero requires conflict and for conflict to be real, the stake have to be high. To portray this realistically people have to treat the stakes as high as they actually are. This is the difference between Dark Knight Rises and the Avengers. Both stories feature a city under threat of destruction, the difference being in one the heroes joke around and have fun with each other and in the other everyone knows and accepts that this could be the end, so they fight all the hard to stop that. The Avengers act like they invincible, optimism, Batman knows he isn't, realism.
ScottMontgomery
ScottMontgomery - 10/4/2014, 10:45 PM
This is a very well written editorial! Great job
Bekss
Bekss - 10/4/2014, 10:48 PM
Really great article.
All this "realistic, gritty and dark" has gone too far. Some movies should be realistic and others not.
Marvel is more family friendly, while WB has choose to be more serious, and I would say that it's because they are afraid of another Bantman & Robin or Green Lantern.
While Marvel big boss is a comic fan that loves all the comedic aspects of the comics.

Now let's see how many trolls come
Bekss
Bekss - 10/4/2014, 11:03 PM
So far Marvel has show that they know when a movie has to be more serious (IMO).
Both Captain America movies have been serious but even then they have jokes and all the Marvel feel.
People like Marvel movies because they can have fun with them but even in the Avengers there's a really serious moment after Coulson's death. The first 5 minutes of GotG is one of the most emotional scenes I've seen in a CBM but the movie needed to have comedy (it had a [frick]ing raccoon and a tree).

So far I can't say anything about DCCU, they only have 1 movie but there will be a moment when they'll have to make a more light hearted movie, not all the characters can be all serious and dark because that's not how they are.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 10/5/2014, 1:44 AM
Excellent article. I do think that people might have gotten confused to what Nolan had spoken about realistic and i'm glad this article cleared it up, Nolan stating that he wanted his audience to get invested into the films cinematic reality and for the audience to relate to the film.

I actually don't mind what Marvel Studios is doing making films for families but i am the type of person that enjoys serious films, i don't mind that DC is taking a serious approach towards comic book characters and it's mythos, i only care if these films entertain me and have me invested in their set up. Also Marvel had a serious film released this year called Captain America: The Winter Soldier and that entertained not only me but audience's too.
EhMaybeSays
EhMaybeSays - 10/5/2014, 4:04 AM
For Marvel jokes draw the crowd and for WB Batman draws the crowd. Neither can consider themselves to make superior movies. There are no superior studios, only superior filmmakers.
Dingbat
Dingbat - 10/5/2014, 5:26 AM
@gamecreatorjj

I agree. There's a slight difference between being a realist and a pessimist, and Man of Steel was not pessimistic. It was actually hopeful. Not a dark movie by any means. The death and destruction is what should have happened in the Avengers if they were to take that approach. They didn't, so a scene like that would be out of place.
Dingbat
Dingbat - 10/5/2014, 5:28 AM
Marvel makes kid friendly family films, DC will probably continue making films that take themselves seriously. There's nothing wrong with either approach, it's good that they aren't the same.
tonytony
tonytony - 10/5/2014, 6:21 AM
i think its great to have diversity in movies.
marvel movies have lots of comedic moments.
for me i prefer the more serious tone. For me having respect for the source material isnt sticking strictly to source material. Its about trying to make a movie that is credible.
The Nolan movies for me are very credible, so was man of steel. Not so batman and robin, i would hate for superman or batman to do the gringe worthy dance that star lord performed in the final battle of Guardians of the galaxy for example.

i enjoyed the first Iron man movie and the fox xmen movies because those movies have a good tone that doesnt take me out or make me think its made only for my sisters kids.
Dingbat
Dingbat - 10/5/2014, 6:29 AM
@JohnCarter

I think I was a little blunt and you misunderstood. If the Avengers were to take a more serious approach, buildings collapsing on people and what not would have been in the movie. It was an alien invasion, it's not like the whole city would just get away clean. Since it was a more family friendly film, all that death was not shown on screen and the Destruction was toned down.

"news montage not only showed celebration as well as criticism of the Avengers, it also showed the destruction and the dead or missing memorial wall the people put up."

That was sort of pushed to the back. It was brief and only seen in passing. I've seen that movie many times and I actually had to go on youtube to see if that was true. Then I was like " oh yeah, I remember that."

There were definitely some jokey moments in that final battle scene. And if they were actually terrified they certainly didn't show it.
Dingbat
Dingbat - 10/5/2014, 6:41 AM
@0megaDaGod

While that's true for a lot of people on this site, I think Marvel movies are more family friendly due to the tone most of them have.

Being owned by Disney, Marvel would never put out a movie with any controversial death and destruction like WB has done in the past with movies like Watchmen and Man of Steel. They keep things light and fun so EVERYONE can enjoy it. Family friendly imo, not necessarily just for kids.

I'm not positive but I believe Marvel now owns the rights to the Punisher. If they were to do a film, it would NEVER be any more than PG-13. They would tone down the violence significantly even though it's a staple of his character. I personally suspect that, among other reasons, is why Daredevil is going to be in TV instead of film. He's a darker character and they are worried he'd be too much for certain audiences. The 2003 film was fairly dark, and I don't think Marvel would ever go that route.

There's nothing wrong with that to me, but some people are a little crazy.

MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 10/5/2014, 7:11 AM
I did love the serious approach Judge Dredd to the R rated "Dredd" film, unfortunately the film did not make all of it's budget back from the box office therefor no plans for a sequel because there is a small audience for R rated comic book movies.
Dingbat
Dingbat - 10/5/2014, 7:17 AM
@0megaDaGod

There is literally nothing graphic or controversial about Thor or GOTG. Man of Steel clearly is considering how many people complained about it.

"Watchmen was rated R, which is the same rating as several movies Disney has released under it's subsidiaries (and Marvel is a subsidiary). Marvel films being PG-13 Four Quadrant movies has nothing to do with being owned by Disney and everything to do with their movies being meant to make the most money by being accessible to the widest audience."

Watchmen is an R rated COMIC BOOK FILM. That movie didn't make as much money as it could have because of that reason so there's a good chance we'll never see an R rated movie featuring superheroes again. How many of those R rated Disney films feature superheroes of any kind? None. How many feature Marvel characters? None. I never said they weren't rated R because they were owned by Disney, I said that Disney would never allow an R rated CBM because they are meant to be family friendly so everyone can enjoy them. I literally said that in my last post so why you would refute it is beyond me.

"And even in spite of that, they've all featured graphic imagery not suitable for children as well as themes and dialogue not suitable for children."

What graphic imagery was ever featured in an MCU movie? There's nothing graphic about them. Sure Tony Stark says pussy a few times but graphic?

A self contained Punisher or Daredevil movie would be fine. I did say "among other reasons." What I absolutely did not say was that it was the only reason. Darker characters and stories is something that could have factored into discussions for Daredevil as well as money, time, over all story arch in the MCU, and other constraints. I never said it was the be all end all reason of Daredevil being on TV.
ShellHead
ShellHead - 10/5/2014, 7:19 AM
The DC trolls are still sleeping. Get in your support for the article while you still can!
MrBender
MrBender - 10/5/2014, 7:25 AM
It's called Nolanized 'cause only Nolan can do it right, Goyer is not Nolan, Snyder is not Nolan, and when a "Not Nolan" tries to Nolanize something you get no so good results... aka MoS.
Dingbat
Dingbat - 10/5/2014, 7:26 AM
@MrSotoMan

Not sure if that was directed at me but I never said they were made for kids, but I did say they are suitable for kids as well as all ages. Anyone can watch them without any problems. A movie like Watchmen on the other hand is a CBM not suitable for everyone.

All those examples you made are all either thematic or circumstantial, not tonal. None of it was done in a graphic way.

Iron Man and Captain America: The Winter Soldier stand out because they are tonally, not like the usual Marvel film. They deal with more serious real world themes and it's all done in a serious way.

All that stuff in the First Avenger was done in a way that was suitable for everyone. They attacked bases in a nifty montage, there was little or no blood on screen, etc...
tonytony
tonytony - 10/5/2014, 7:27 AM
@omegadagod
you said about man of steel

"There was nothing in that movie even half as graphic as GOTG or Thor TDW"
Really? so Zod's death is matched in GOTG or thor TDW?

THere is nothing as cringeworthy as star lords dance and consistent forced humour in GOTG and TDW in that movie and that is a good thing. to me you are also right about 2/3 of the humour in GOTG, the problem is that last unneccesary 1/3 of humour like the cringeworthy dance off, which only an 8 year old would accept as cool. Its like something out of toy story. YOu are very fortunate there was actually a musical scene (like in snow white or aladdin) that didnt make the final cut.

NOt having any humour is not good, but having too much is bad, this is my increasing problem with the MCU.

I prefer when people respect the characters (and by saying respect i dont mean sticking strictly to source material) rather than trying to make an action comedy out of everything.

MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 10/5/2014, 7:31 AM
I do like destruction in comic book movies.

The bigger the better.
MrBlackJack
MrBlackJack - 10/5/2014, 7:32 AM
It's kinda odd, because when I think of realism I think back to Hemingway's stuff and the amount of irony that was used. In my opinion realism is misused/misinterpreted often times. Most films or people use the word realism when they're talking about the social commentary, stakes, consequences, and/or tone of the film being raised/adjusted. I don't think most comic book movies that people (whether it be filmmakers or fans) claim are full of realism aren't actually 100% realism. Not all of them follow through, like Man of Steel ends with a "happy ending" and an up note, but honestly if they were going for the full realism effect then it probably shouldn't have ended it like that. The Dark Knight is still one of the few comic book movies to actually use pure realism, in the sense that it doesn't have a happy ending. The good guy doesn't win, it ends on a down note just as life often does. Being dark/gritty and realistic can go hand and hand at times, but they're definitely not the same thing. When a filmmaker describes their film as being realistic (or at least with comic book movies) I think it's them basically saying they're going to be more self aware when making the film. The social commentary may be increased, the consequences will be heavier and clearer, and possible elements from the character's lore that don't easily fit in this day and age may be changed.

I don't think I'm doing a very good job at describing what I mean, but it's not a very easy thing to describe in the first place. This is just one of those half assed rambling comments I guess. Basically, I think all comic book movies have realistic elements (some more so than others), but none of them are close to being 100%, pure bred realistic (at least in the way I'm thinking of realism).
Dingbat
Dingbat - 10/5/2014, 7:36 AM
@MrSotoMan

It's not graphic imagery though. That's what I was talking about: "What graphic imagery was ever featured in an MCU movie?" Right?

This is graphic imagery...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rmgyz5Fipw

I couldn't even embed the video because you need to sign in to view it.

MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 10/5/2014, 7:38 AM
I actually loved the dance off scene in GOTG. I thought it was clever. It was unexpected and it's just surprising that it catches you off guard and it's not the stereotypical big fight scene between hero and villain and also the dance off served as a distraction towards the villain which forced the team to work together to take down the villain by "holding hands".

I really love GOTG. It's my favorite comic book film. It has a balance of humor and seriousness. Was i the only one who got teary with the scene between kid Peter Quill and his mom. I got sad when Rocket explained how he was forceably experimented on which was basically torturous. Ronan smashing a Nova Corp head. Drax mentioning how his entire family was murdered and Ronan committing genocide.
Dingbat
Dingbat - 10/5/2014, 7:38 AM
@MrBlackjack

I know what you're saying. TDK is utterly 100% realistic in tone and it sticks to it's gins until the very end.

It's hard to get your opinions across in the comments section while being as brief as possible. There's always something that get's left out and the argument isn't as strong.
Bekss
Bekss - 10/5/2014, 7:39 AM
@Dingbat
The reason people complain about MoS is because all the destruction not about graphic images.
MoS is not closer to an R rating than Avengers. The Avengers was almost R rated because of Coulson scene.
Thor 2- arm cut off
Cap 1-2 - war, killing a lot of people, Cap was almost beated to death, torture.
IM 1,2,3- killing poeple, firing a big laser through someone's chest, burning people.

MoS didn't have anything too violent except the neack breaking, but because it has a more serious tone people would see it as having more graphic images.
MrBlackJack
MrBlackJack - 10/5/2014, 7:43 AM
I'm not condemning or condoning the use of "realism" either, it's a case by case sort of thing.
Bekss
Bekss - 10/5/2014, 7:45 AM
When I saw TWS a kid started hugging his dad when they wipe out Bucky memory
Dingbat
Dingbat - 10/5/2014, 7:47 AM
@Bekss

The destruction is graphic imagery. You literally see and hear people getting smashed on the ground. You see people running for their lives and getting crushed by a building. That was really the problem a lot of people had with it. All of that would happen off screen in most Marvel films.

"MoS is not closer to an R rating than Avengers. The Avengers was almost R rated because of Coulson scene."

What? When did I ever mention that? Watchmen is R rated, Man of Steel shows mass civilian death on screen, the Avengers doesn't not show it in the final battle even though we as an audience know it happened.

Thor 2- arm cut off
Cap 1-2 - war, killing a lot of people, Cap was almost beated to death, torture.
IM 1,2,3- killing poeple, firing a big laser through someone's chest, burning people.

That's all in the movie but it wasn't graphic. There's other ways to show an arm get cut off.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rmgyz5Fipw

Dingbat
Dingbat - 10/5/2014, 7:47 AM
Why do Marvel and DC fanboys get so defensive when you point something out that they don't like. It's not even criticism. I'm not criticizing Marvel or DC. Why are people jumping to "defend" them.
MrBlackJack
MrBlackJack - 10/5/2014, 7:48 AM
@Dingbat
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