How I Think Marvel's Phase 2 Will Shape Up

How I Think Marvel's Phase 2 Will Shape Up

Just a fun read of how I think Phase 2 of the MCU is going to shape up. No spoilers or inside info, just fun ideas based on mostly speculation.

Editorial Opinion
By mkilban2 - Mar 09, 2013 02:03 PM EST
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I'm gunna go all out here and try and speculate how I see Phase 2 shaping up. It gets a little lengthy and I'm really bored right now haha, but it's a really good read. I think it's pretty interesting and I'd love to speculate with you guys and spitball different ideas. Let's have some fun!

Notice: I have no sources and I am entirely speculating here.

Notice 2: The person I refer to as 'LokiD' is a member on the SHH forums who also has interesting ideas on Phase two that I've adapted into my layout as well. (He claims to have a source for his info, but mine is purely fun speculation.)

So we know Iron Man 3 is introducing Extermis, which we can pretty safely assume is a recreation of the Super Solid Serum. This ties in together smoothly in the MCU w/ Red Skull/Blonsky being failed attempts and Cap being the only real one. It could also possibly tie in with Bucky Barnes/Winter Solider getting the Infinity Formula which could be another variation of the Serum (not sure what the Infinity Formula really is though)

Lets also assume that an early A.I. version of Ultron is in play, possibly something like (U.L.T.R.O.N.) on a computer screen as a defensive system or computer system that AIM has gotten a hold of in order to combat with Tony's J.A.R.V.I.S. system. We can assume this was created by Pym either in the present day timeline of event of Phase 1 or early Phase 2 (possibly in the year between Avengers and IM3).. I still don't think they're going to be adapting the Past/Present storyline of Ant-Man that's been specualted at however many years ago, keeping it more grounded in the present MCU makes more sense to me.

So from the start of Phase 2 in IM3 we can possibly see a future route of Ultron in play (in some small capacity, maybe setting up a long run story line for Avengers3 and to drum up some noise for Ant-Man, which is probably going to be Marvel's biggest chance movie along with GotG.) And on the topic of Guardians of the Galaxy, if reports of Tony getting an S.O.S. from deep space and wanting to investigate are true, that's also being set up in this movie as well. Both are very smart moves by Marvel in my opinion because those are the two movies they are probably most concerned about so setting them up in some capacity in Iron Man 3 (which the most people are going to see) is a really good move I think.

Moving onto Thor I'm not really sure how or what they are going to put in there to connect with Avengers 2, possible GotG S.O.S. of some sort to Thor or Odin could make some sense to me (also since I've read Thor and Tony are called to the aid of the Guardians, probably after they face their movies threat i.e. Thanos I would guess.) I like the Maleketh/Kurse storyline they're doing, and from the set pics we've seen where Jane is holding that strange device it could possibly play into some sort of storyline that leads us in a general direction (I don't even know to speculate how or what it would be though).

Onto Cap2 I'm going to run w/ what LokiD just alluded to with the revelation that Zola and Zemo with a re-created HYDRA are possibly the ones being present day AIM (HYDRA reincarnated) This completes full circle ties with IM3 storyline of Extremis that let's say Zola had a hand in creating the virus while also creating the Infinity Formula used for Bucky, and other side projects turning Simon Williams into the Living Laser. (Not too harsh of a stretch considering he's had decades of time since Cap1 ended to work on all these projects) They are also working with this new AI system (early Ultron prototype) to try and essentially do what Tony did with the H.A.P.P.y armor transferring a persons brainwaves to a sentient armor. So with what 'Loki' said, over the course of this movie Simon Williams turns good and now we have his brain patterns with Starks knowledge of how to transfer brainwaves inching closer to a full fledged Ultron system.

Now I think, and really hope won't we see a robot Ultron until Ant-Man where Pym working with Starks notes and his own knowledge creates Ultron after the events of Avengers 2 in order to prevent another catastrophe like this from happening again.

On to Guardians of the Galaxy, we'll get an orgin story of sorts introducing Starlord and his background (possibly he knows people already in our current MCU) along with the rest of the gang. Now I don't know much about the GotG comics, but I assume they and Nova(he's gotta be in there) will be facing off against Thanos and ultimately lose to where they retreat and regroup and send out the S.O.S. that reaches Stark and Thor who investigate with them. They tell Tony and Thor that Thanos is heading their way and they need to prepare.

So Avengers 2 we have Thanos coming to attack in the imminent future, and I'm going to also assume that the Master of Evil are going to pop up in some form in this movie too. So lets say one big mastermind of the baddies we've seen so far groups this team together, (maybe Leader which could be the direct reason Hulk gets back involved with the team, or someone else like The Other [doubtful] or Red Skull or even Loki [Hope not] pull this team together) So now with the knowledge that Thanos is coming the Avengers are faced with the Masters of Evil problem as well. So lets say act 1 we see both teams coming together, Avengers get a few new members and MoE are forming as well. Lets take 1 villain from each persons movies. (Mandy, Zemo, Maleketh, Blonsky, with a main boss calling the shots (Leader, Red Skull). Act 2 comes around and each character takes out their villain one by one, and as the battles are coming to an end Thanos arrives act 3.. they give it everything they've got and put up a minimal fight effort and then when all is lost back up comes in the form of GotG and Nova and the tables then turn and Thanos is defeated. (now I know that is a stretch for this movie and you've got to put some dialog story crap in there somewhere but I would enjoy the hell out of this film haha.)

Throw in other AIM/HYDRA related storylines over the course of the films since I think they will play a big role in this Phase and I think we've got a pretty cool Phase 2.

So after Thanos is defeated or forced to back out from being overpowered or whatever, we start off Phase 3 with Ant-Man who then creates Ultron as some sort of major defense alert system that at the end of Ant-Man turns on him. Not going to speculate past that since we don't even know what movies to expect.

So if you stayed with me here, how do you guys feel about that. where could we add or subtract. What storylines could be put in play in place of those that I suggested. Lets get a fun discussion going.

Leave your feedback in the comments please!! :)

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mkilban2
mkilban2 - 3/9/2013, 3:40 PM
aw man.. no comments :(
SomTingWong
SomTingWong - 3/9/2013, 3:45 PM
I think this is a very good prediction. I think stark could receive the SOS and heimdail could tell Thor that the guardians needed help. I don't think the moe are going to really show up unless they are all broken out of prison and the avengers stop them. The gotg will probably show up in a2 and thanos will be very hard to kill. Stark will probably die and come back out of hela's realm by a3 and ultron will be the big baddie behind phase 3
bazinga85
bazinga85 - 3/9/2013, 3:46 PM
@mkilban2
You have to give us time to read it, lol:)
BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 3/9/2013, 3:54 PM
Everyone always seems too concerned with the connections between the movies instead of the actual movies.
mkilban2
mkilban2 - 3/9/2013, 3:59 PM
@avenger72 Yeah I kinda shoe-horned MoE in there because even though Thanos is a huge threat in himself, it would just be wrong to not use the MoE. Because by the end of phase3 all the villains are going to be older and might not be interested anymore lol. I also think Ultron will be the big baddie of Phase 3, it makes logical sense because they're starting off with Ant-Man.

@bazinga85 hahaha i forgot how lengthy the article is.. I got on a roll earlier :)

thanks for the reads and feedbacks guys, my first ever editorial.
mkilban2
mkilban2 - 3/9/2013, 4:01 PM
@BarnaclePete well to me the connections between these movies is what makes the MCU so interesting. Nothing like this, on this large of a scale, has ever been done before. I personally had never opened a comic book or even cared much for comic book characters before I saw IronMan and saw "avengers initiative" and looked up what that meant and then really got interested in this enormous shared universe being brought to real life fruition.
WorstUserNameEver
WorstUserNameEver - 3/9/2013, 5:05 PM
Agreed, while the individual films are incredibly important as stand alone character vehicles, the inter-connectivity is what gets me hard!
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 3/9/2013, 5:12 PM
I like your ideas man. Especially with the Extremis evolving into brain-wave transfer.
mkilban2
mkilban2 - 3/9/2013, 5:21 PM
@Worst - Yeah, I'm of the feeling that the stand alone stories are going to be there and they're going to be solid. (Even IM2 was an okay movie, just wasn't up to bar with the first in the eyes of most) But it's what each movie brings to the next and the phase as a whole that really interests me.

@Tainted87 Thanks man, yeah I think the introduction of Extermis is going to mean a lot in the long run of this Phase, or at least another form of Extermis/SS Serum will.
sikwon
sikwon - 3/9/2013, 7:08 PM
I think reading the event storys in the current comics will tell us alot. Its just good business for Marvel to tie (even very loosely) the movies to the comics. Thanos rising is the big event now followed very closely by Ultron. I think that tells us what direction the MCU is heading. Im not saying they will stick closesly to the comics but as a vehicle to support both the comics and the films, it makes sense. By the time phase "4" comes along there will be enough characters for a civil war or (less likely) fox and marvel could concievably have an AvX. Thats unlikely but i can hope. I really think it will be Thanos, Ultron then Civil War. And this article was good.
mkilban2
mkilban2 - 3/9/2013, 7:26 PM
I've been hearing rumors from people I've talked with that Fox and Disney are trying to create some type of cohesive universe, and then we already know Sony/Disney tried something as well, so I think with enough time anything is possible. I also think that the Marvel NOW! comics are going to either show us characters they want to introduce or give us some insight as to routes they may take. It should be interesting for sure!. And thanks!
mkilban2
mkilban2 - 3/10/2013, 12:57 PM
^They aren't going to wait till Avengers 3 to use Thanos.. that's too far down the line, and too many movies that won't matter in between 2 and 3
mkilban2
mkilban2 - 3/10/2013, 5:16 PM
@Merchant well the only angle I can see is that throughout Phase 2 we see some sort of MoE team forming while the Phase is going on, so they are the initial threat that becomes overshadowed by the main threat of Thanos. Back to Back alien invasion on earth might not be a good route to go for Avengers 1 and 2
NovaCorpsFan
NovaCorpsFan - 3/12/2013, 3:56 PM
I'm glad other people think MoE will show up. I'd rather the movie center around that as opposed to Thanos lingering for half the movie. Just wanna share an odd dream I had recently. I was literally dreaming A2. It had reached the climatic battle with bigT and Thor is all thats left but Thanos is choking him out and giving a good old fashioned villain speech. He ends with the words "You're no better than a mortal!" then a web ball hit his face and I woke up... I want that to happen so bad...
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