Marvel Sues to keep Spiderman, X-Men & Fantastic Four Copyrights

Marvel Sues to keep Spiderman, X-Men & Fantastic Four Copyrights

Marvel is suing to keep the rights to several of it's superheroe franchises including Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four and X-Men.

By ecksmanfan - Jan 08, 2010 01:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Other
Source: Associated Press

The Associated Press is reporting that Marvel has filed a lawsuit to have a judge invalidate the notices sent by the heirs of Jack Kirby to terminate the copyrights.

This from the article:

"The heirs sent notified several companies last year that the rights to the characters would revert from Marvel to Kirby's estate.

The lawsuit says Kirby's work on the comics were "for hire" and render the heirs' claims invalid.

Comic book characters such as Spider-Man and the X-Men have become some of Hollywood's most bankable properties in recent years.

Marc Toberoff, an attorney for the Kirby heirs, said he hadn't seen the lawsuit and had no immediate comment."

ecksmanfan: So, the plot thickens...

UPDATE:

Here is a bit more information from Bloomberg.com:

"Four of Kirby’s children are wrongfully trying to cancel copyrights on 45 Marvel characters and stories published from 1958 to 1963, including 'Spiderman' and 'Incredible Hulk,' the company said in a complaint today in federal court in New York, where Marvel is based.

The heirs in September filed dozens of termination notices with the U.S. Copyright Office in a bid to revert Marvel’s rights to them beginning in 2014, Marvel claims. The notices were sent under a law allowing authors and their heirs to terminate copyright deals after a long delay.

'The notices filed by the heirs are an attempt to rewrite the history of Kirby’s relationship with Marvel,' Marvel General Counsel John Turitzin said today in a statement. The company is seeking a so-called declaratory judgment that the notices are invalid."

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ThisFan
ThisFan - 1/8/2010, 1:33 PM
I hope marvel wins
WhiteWidow
WhiteWidow - 1/8/2010, 1:39 PM
so this means virtually nothing in terms of marvel gettin various fox owned rights back?
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 1/8/2010, 1:46 PM
Don't think so. I believe this is for the comic book side of things and has nothing to do with th films.
1chris2
1chris2 - 1/8/2010, 1:52 PM
i hope marvel wins and takes the rights away from the studios and make their own films then we will see some great x-men films,spiderman,and fantastic four.
jusme6
jusme6 - 1/8/2010, 1:52 PM
Just read this over at CBR. Glad you posted it X-Man Fan.

@Captain Ovell: I was thinking the exact same thing. On the one hand I don't want Marvel to lose the rights, but on the other, I would like Fox and Sony to lose their rights (especially Fox who has been holding FF4 hostage for almost 20 years). FF4 is central in the shared MU and the X-Men are pretty important too. Oh yeah, and Dare Devil could be awesome and so COULD Ghost Rider. Mad props to Universal who gave back rights to the Hulk. Here's keeping my fingers crossed that they let go of Namor as well.

@X-Man Fan: I think the movies do play a roll, to what extent I'm not sure. I heard the Kerby kids were trying to sue Marvel as well as Sony, Universal, 20 Century Fox, etc.
DogsOfWar
DogsOfWar - 1/8/2010, 1:53 PM
I thought the Kirby heirs were just looking to get royalties the same way Jerry Siegel of Superman did. It created a precedent for partial royalty rights after like 50 something years.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 1/8/2010, 1:55 PM
Its a pity they didn't care who they pimped their SPIDEY, FF, X-MEN movie rights too!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 1/8/2010, 1:56 PM
Still cant fault the first couple of SPIDEY and X-Films!!
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 1/8/2010, 1:56 PM
The article is kind of vague on what is actually happening. Hopefully something more will come out.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 1/8/2010, 1:57 PM
If MARVEL lose them, whats that mean, they can be sold to DC Comics or something lol??
Wadey09
Wadey09 - 1/8/2010, 2:23 PM
@LEEE
hope not.
because the tension between Dc and Marvel would heat in After Hours by RandomGuy!
Phinehas
Phinehas - 1/8/2010, 2:37 PM
A page ripped right out of the DC vs. Speigal and Shuster heirs.
longbowhunter
longbowhunter - 1/8/2010, 2:56 PM
Yeah, there seems to be alot of this talk going around. Phinehas is right. Siegel & Shuster's families are still working DC over for only partial rights to Superman.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 1/8/2010, 2:56 PM
Wadey @ I wouldnt actually mid dude if DC did get 'em, infact it'll be pretty cool!!

Loved those DC VS MARVEL stuff!


Anyway, this smells DISNEY all over it! : D
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 1/8/2010, 3:00 PM
[frick]ing greedy family members who did nothing with their lives trying to piggy back. unless theres a peice of paper from kirby that says "my family can make any and all decisions about marvel characters because they are comic book geniuses!" then [frick] these gold digging bastards. they had nothing to do these characters. but the company who paid him to create them sure as hell does. unless spider-man is based of off his uncle and the x-men are based off of his grandma then this family is making fools of themsleves.
DeMoNaSsDiZ
DeMoNaSsDiZ - 1/8/2010, 3:09 PM
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icebergslick
icebergslick - 1/8/2010, 3:09 PM
The saga continues.......
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 1/8/2010, 3:10 PM
I hope Marvel kick their money grabbing asses. :)
thatiscrazy
thatiscrazy - 1/8/2010, 3:12 PM
Fox Sucks
Tobuttica
Tobuttica - 1/8/2010, 3:21 PM
Too bad Kirby doesn't have anything to do with Spider-man. They are just trying to cash in like the Seigel and Shuster families are for Superman.
DogsOfWar
DogsOfWar - 1/8/2010, 3:30 PM
Multi-that merlin guy is deleting all our fun again
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 1/8/2010, 3:34 PM
Dogs: He left a message this time.
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 1/8/2010, 3:36 PM
I agree with Josh.

But to me it's actually even worse than that really, because of what I think they plan to DO with the properties if they acquire them.
Anyway I don't really want to say anything more because I believe that my thoughts on this matter will only cause an argument.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/8/2010, 3:39 PM
@ captainovell

this doesn't have anything to do with the movies. this is the rights to the characters themselves. but these "heirs" are just looking for a payday. they didn't do ANYTHING to create these characters. their lawsuit was basically thrown out because it was ridiculous. so now marvel is going after them...if i'm reading this article correctly that is :)
DogsOfWar
DogsOfWar - 1/8/2010, 3:42 PM
Tea-that merlin douche is deleting everything he doesn't like on all the articles he posted. Multi, Hawks and several others killed him too and now (sob)its all gone! Galactus is on route at some point today
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 1/8/2010, 3:43 PM
tea; He deleted them and left this:

Guys...this is the Moderator.

I will be happy to let you post whatever you want about the topic.

Post your thought and move on.

But, please stay on topic. If you don't, and you continue to flame and hate, I'll delete those comments.

Disagreements with the topic is fine. Posting your thoughts ABOUT THE TOPIC is fine. But continuing a thread rehashing for hate purposes won't be tolerated.

If you don't like what you're reading here, vote with your feet and move on. If you want to complain to the web admin or bash me on other places on the site, feel free to do so.

So I replied with:
Delete us all you want merlin, your still a jackass and your still spamming your piece of crap self help site.

You have had editors on here all afternoon that you have just deleted. You won't do this too much longer. What your doing here is spamming pure and simple. Your post has nothing to do with any topics relevant to this site.
Your trying to catch some weak minded idividual who thinks your garbage can help them, so actually you have passed through the spamming stage and your a running a con.
You may as well find a new site for your scam. It's not gonna be tollorated here.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/8/2010, 3:44 PM
i just don't understand something. the rights have been in Marvel's hands for ages. what makes these people think they deserve them?? Marvel owned the rights, whether Kirby created the characters or not. if the Kirby kids were right, then that means the heirs of ANYONE that created ANYTHING deserves ownership when that person dies, regardless of who owns the rights.

that just sounds ridiculous, something is missing from this story.
DogsOfWar
DogsOfWar - 1/8/2010, 3:47 PM
Its not about property rights, it just royalties owed they are fighting over, I believe
ClintEastwood
ClintEastwood - 1/8/2010, 3:55 PM
greedy bastards
MJay
MJay - 1/8/2010, 3:59 PM
@DeMoNaSsDiZ: hey man I check the site every day, but I don't leave comments or nothin' cuz I get my info from yall, lol, but I made that picture one day, and it was really cool & random to see it on here, just wanted to say thanks, that was pretty awesome. And them Kirby kids need to stop bein' greedy.
DogsOfWar
DogsOfWar - 1/8/2010, 4:01 PM
Sorry to clog up you article Ecks, but that Matt Merlin douche is deleting comments from his lame ass articles. I don't think he knew what was coming!
GuyFawkes
GuyFawkes - 1/8/2010, 4:15 PM
This is history in the making....
loganoneil
loganoneil - 1/8/2010, 4:17 PM
Guys - Break out the paint and start painting the bullseye on my back 'cause I for one am all for Marvel LOOSING this deal! It's about time SOMEBODY gives Kirby more of the recognition he so richly deserves and was robbed oh-so-long ago! It's just a shame that he's not here to reap the benefits of his hard labor himself! I'd LOVE to see Marvel's and Stan 'The Ego' Lee's faces IF the decision goes in favor of the Kirby estate and they loose some of their biggest cash-cows! And yes, I believe by de-facto, Sony would loose the movie rights, so this could be a blessing in disguise!

Commece the firing...
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 1/8/2010, 4:27 PM
loganoneil: They're not doing this to give Jack Kirby recognition - they're doing it to line their pockets with cash! And I for one do not want to see characters like Spider-Man lost or sold on to God knows who ruining the past 70 years of the Marvel Universe!I honestly cant believe that anyone who genuinly cares about the characters would want to see that happen!! I'm all for giving just as much credit to the artists who worked with Stan Lee to create these characters but not if it means we have to lose them altogether!
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 1/8/2010, 4:30 PM
@Dogs- It's awite with me. Apparently it'snot ok to converse on his articles, but you are more than welcome to here!
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 1/8/2010, 4:37 PM
teabag: Good point! That makes it even worse that the cheeky bastards are going after characters he didnt create! Money grabbing whores... ;D

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StrangerX
StrangerX - 1/8/2010, 4:41 PM
Oh well
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