Marvel's Netflix shows should be dark, not like their movies

Marvel's Netflix shows should be dark, not like their movies

Is "dark" getting boring? Maybe, but here are five reasons why Marvel's Netflix series should still be going in that direction

Editorial Opinion
By Syringe - Mar 05, 2014 09:03 AM EST
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As you all know, in 2015 Marvel and Netflix will deliver five new series based on the characters Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, and Luke Cage. As the press release states, viewers will be taken into “the gritty world of heroes and villains of Hell's Kitchen”. Yet, while despite being synonymously “street level”, many fans of the genre still hope for a more light-hearted, family-friendly take on these characters. I however am anticipating a much more mature and overall darker exploration, and here are five reasons why:

Character History

Whenever a film or television series adapts a text of any sort, the first thing many viewers will normally do is inspect how much it draws from or resembles its original source. Consider 2005’s Sin City. It was hugely popular amongst fans of the original comic book series because it was so faithful to the source material. Now that’s not to say that when a film distances itself from the source material that it will be bad, rather that staying true to it will likely strike a chord with both the masses and the book’s followers.

Why then should stories about Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, or Luke Cage be altered to appeal to the all-ages audiences of Iron Man or Thor? While they may differ considerably in power and abilities, how each character navigates their way through the superhuman world is similar – more destructive and brutal.

Take Daredevil as an example. Many fans want to see an interpretation of the character as created by Stan Lee and now being carried out by Mark Waid. But that version of Daredevil only exists in two very different eras, the 60s and the 2010s. That forty year gap in between is inhabited by the heavy-hearted aching Daredevil moulded by the likes of Frank Miller, Ann Nocenti, and Ed Brubaker. That IS Daredevil.

These characters’ histories are darker and edgier, and so it is these representations of the characters that we deserve.

Put it this way, if the rights to Spidey went back to Marvel tomorrow and they announced a thirteen episode series, who would you want to see? Lee and Ditko’s Amazing Spiderman, or Kraven’s Last Hunt Spiderman?




Expanding the Marvel Cinematic Universe

The ways in which Marvel have created and are continuing to build its cinematic presence is incredible. We have a shared universe where character cross-overs and cameos not only seem organic but warranted, and each film seems to strip away another layer of this rich world. The wonders of science and technology are made apparent in Iron Man, while Captain America provides us with a history or politics and war. On the flip side, Thor takes us into a magical world of Gods and Norse mythology, and soon we’ll see the cosmic side of things in the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy. But if men in super-powered armour and talking racoons can exist in the world, surely mob bosses, perverted super villains, and ruthless martial artists can too?

These Netflix series need to show the darker side of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Doing so allows Marvel to continue expanding their world, making it all the more fun for viewers to step into. When those dark corners have been found, it allows Marvel to tell very different, but nonetheless entertaining stories that tackle mature themes and issues. Just because the plot may be more grounded, and essentially darker, doesn’t mean it’s any less enjoyable. Just look at the comics!



New Audiences

With The Avengers being one of the highest grossing films of all time, and Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America now major franchises, it can’t be denied that Marvel is dominating the film market right now and has been for a number of years. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that their films appeal to all film-goers or comic book fans.

Consider DC’s recent cinematic ventures. Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight Trilogy was also extremely successful at the box-office and amongst critics, and compared to the Marvel way of doing things, much darker. Between Scarecrow’s mask, The Joker’s madness, and depictions of social unrest and political violence, it’s safe to say the target audience did not include children.

Now what of those film-goers who adored Nolan’s take on Batman, and looked to Marvel for a similar experience? They really wouldn’t find anything at all. But now, Marvel has the opportunity to attract those kinds of audiences with these Netflix shows. Gang warfare, sadistic psychopaths, and as promised, “flawed heroes”, you name it, these four series provide the perfect platform for exploring such topics. Making these shows “dark” makes it more likely for fans of The Dark Knight, Watchmen, and even The Punisher to start paying attention to the Marvel brand. And while the call for more child-friendly comic books and superhero material is totally justifiable, these shows can silence those who are quick to dismiss comics as a child’s medium. Guys and girls in tights jumping over buildings and bouncing bullets of their chest can still confront serious issues. Brian Michael Bendis and Michael Gaydos’ Alias is a perfect example of that, so let’s see it on screen too!



Competition

It is said that we’re currently living in the golden age of television. Actors, directors, and the writers of Hollywood are now flocking to the small screen to tell their stories, and with the arrival of digital streaming via Netflix, iTunes, and Hulu, people around the world are staying at home to “binge” on their favourite shows. But now, consider the types of shows we seem to be addicted to. Breaking Bad, Dexter, The Following, the list goes on but it’s fair to say that these are not bright, sunny, family affairs. Sure, there’s also Glee and Downton Abbey, but the majority of popular programming now deals with violence, death, and moral ambiguity. That is the current state of television, and while it may suggest something far deeper about western society, the fact is that we seem to love “dark” stories. Therefore, from a business standpoint at least, it makes complete sense to give the masses what they want – darkness.

Think of it this way, Marvel has an enormous catalogue of characters each of whom could have filled the Netflix slots on the same budget, such as Black Panther, She-Hulk, Blade, and a number of others, but they chose to use four of the most distinctively street-level properties they have. It’s a smart move. These characters make for more mature narratives, enabling them to compete with the likes of Sons of Anarchy and True Detective. It’s a great way to further branch out into television.



Heroes

Naturally with darker storytelling, shades of grey begin to emerge. In the 1970s, extremely talented filmmakers such as Sidney Lumet, Martin Scorsese, and Francis Ford Coppola introduced us to some incredibly complex characters who got it wrong as many times as they got it right. They may have caught the bank robbers in the act, but they were happy to slip themselves a few hundred dollars in the process. Morally ambiguous characters – we’ve loved watching them for decades. And in recent years we’ve seen them on television too in the forms of Walter White, Dexter Morgan, and Tony Soprano to name a few. These characters have been beautifully crafted over many years and we enjoy seeing them succeed. But don’t be mistaken, these men are protagonists, not heroes. Does that mean that the only way to survive in a cruel world is to adopt an even crueller persona? Is it kill or be killed? In these dark days of war and disaster, I hope not!

But now Marvel have a chance to do what it does best – give us heroes. In the Marvel Universe, just because you live in the darkest areas of the world doesn’t mean you have to embrace that darkness, in fact, you can fight it. Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, Luke Cage – flawed? Hell yes, but morally ambiguous? I don’t think so. These four serve as primary examples of superHEROES, who, regardless of the blackness that surrounds them, remain good people, and I think it’s about time that television audiences get to experience what comic book fans have been experiencing for many years.

So there you have it, please let me know why you agree or don’t agree with me :)
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JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 3/5/2014, 10:01 AM
DD deserves to be dark but sad to say Marvel will not go that direction.
QuestionDAnswer
QuestionDAnswer - 3/5/2014, 10:06 AM
Its not called the MCU, its called the ACU aka Avengers Cinematic Universe. This isn't and will never be a genuine MCU because the rights their Flagship character and 2 of the most important teams in the MCU are elsewhere.
Enphlieuwince
Enphlieuwince - 3/5/2014, 10:54 AM
You made some great points here and there, but, I just can't agree with all your reasoning. Just because a movie appeals to a wide audience that includes children, doesn't not mean it doesn't cover some mature themes. There are some points where they could sustain the drama more, but, it's not as big a deal to most filmgoers as it is to certain fanboys. I find that the humor adds another layer to the production, and, people tend to tune out the deeper aspects of the underlying themes at work. No child is going to understand all that. So, while I feel like a slightly darker tone would be appropriate for these titles, I don't agree that it will be as drastic of a change as you're implying. Though they do employ some light-hearted elements, Marvel Studios efforts haven't been all fun and games aimed at children. The tone of the Netflix series should still be able to complement what is already established in the MCU. Because honestly, Marvel shouldn't sacrifice part of their loyal fanbase to appeasefans who can get their dramatic fix through other outlets. If it ain't broke...
Pasto
Pasto - 3/5/2014, 10:56 AM
"This is brilliant, so I expect only the utmost irrational forms of b1tching and nitpicking on the subject (Not saying you're doing either of those things)" -0mega


You won't say it, I will.
Pasto
Pasto - 3/5/2014, 10:58 AM
Is "dark" getting boring? Maybe, but here are five reasons why Marvel's Netflix series should still be going in that direction


This honestly might be the most confusing thing I have ever read on this site in a LONG time. Well done.
McNyagano
McNyagano - 3/5/2014, 11:04 AM
I never got people's obsession with CBM's being 'dark'. Just because a CBM is dark doesn't necessarily make it better either. Also well said @Enphlieuwince
Enphlieuwince
Enphlieuwince - 3/5/2014, 11:15 AM
McNya

Agreed and thanks.
BenjiWest
BenjiWest - 3/5/2014, 11:17 AM
I agree, I think much of Marvel's production contains many kid friendly elements, whereas Daredevil has complex narratives and dark ruthless villains that require a more mature tone.
Bekss
Bekss - 3/5/2014, 11:25 AM
Stop being dumb. They already said the shows are going to be for hardcore fans and there's a reason why they will be in Netflix.
Some people just want to keep saying "make everything dark and in the night because the sun is for kids".
The shows will be FUN and serious, not dark.
Luke Cage and Iron fist are fun together, and Luke Cage and Jessica Jones will be fun.
Enphlieuwince
Enphlieuwince - 3/5/2014, 11:33 AM
I think people tend to confuse "made for children" with "family friendly." This is why Marvel's formula is so successful; because a family can all go in the same movie together and leave with everyone having an enjoyable experience on their own level. And, contrary to popular belief, WB was/is aiming for the same audience. If you doubt it, look no further than your local toy store. The difference is, a child may fall asleep during The Dark Knight as opposed to The Avengers. But, the ratings are the same.
Enphlieuwince
Enphlieuwince - 3/5/2014, 11:40 AM
Charlie

What stakes are you referring to with Batman? There was NEVER a point where I thought that Batman would lose. Even when he seemingly died, he was revealed to be alive shortly thereafter. He lost loved ones, but, so have heroes within the MCU. The only difference was Nolan's movies and MoS are heavy on drama and light on humor, while MS is the opposite.
Pedrito
Pedrito - 3/5/2014, 12:43 PM
I thought that all those "film-goers who adored Nolan's take on Batman" were currently in cryogenic suspended animation until the return sufficiently dark and gritty CBMs. They're not gonna defrost themselves for these shows, no way.

Might as well just make them what they're supposed to be, shows based on a rich comic book history.
Enphlieuwince
Enphlieuwince - 3/5/2014, 12:54 PM
Lmao @ Pedrito
kong
kong - 3/5/2014, 1:41 PM
I like the article. I agree with most points, but I think that Laing them flawed and seeing their journey to heroes would be the best route, at least that would be my choice for Cage and Jones. Nice article, but I don't see why a lt if fans don't think marvel can't go dark. They act like people are limited to only Doug things they've done before. Marvel Studios is just a production company. They can hire a whole new team of people to do darker things or their pre established teams can just switch gears. Just because you haven't seen them do it doesn't make it impossible.
McNyagano
McNyagano - 3/5/2014, 4:09 PM
@Charlie

LOL Ummm what stakes with Batman are you talking about? I recall TDKR having a happy ending. We all knew Batman was gonna come out on top, isn't that predictable and 'safe'? Also when Marvel strayed away from being 'safe' with IM3, look what happened. Again why are you implying that darker=better. Who said everyone wants darker? These films are based off comic books my friend, I don't all my cbms to be 'darker', the MCU films have some very dark scenes and even deal with some real world issues. Just because the films makes us laugh doesn't mean it can't deal with any complex or serious themes. Anyone who thinks otherwise is being ridiculous.
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 3/5/2014, 5:47 PM
This team of heroes have pretty darker histories anyway. With Daredevil and his connection with crime and the mob. Heck, Jessica Jones has a traumatic history which I'm sure they won't explore in the series.

With the MCU it's understandable why they opt for a lighter tone and aim for a younger audience because Disney is all about how much merchandise and toys that they can sell with a film.

But with Netflix, the audience is arguably catered to that of a more mature audience and the characters are lesser known so it's a good way to go a little bit darker with the characters histories and tone of the series.
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