The Future of the Comic Book Industry From the Perspectives of Stan Lee & Mark Millar

The Future of the Comic Book Industry From the Perspectives of Stan Lee & Mark Millar

Bloomberg's Jon Erlichman reports on the outlook of digital and traditional comics, with insight from Stan Lee, Mark Hamill, and Mark Uslan. In an interview with CBR, Mark Miller warns the dangers of day and date digital releases.

By nailbiter111 - Nov 30, 2011 12:11 PM EST
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Source: bloomberg.com






One major issue that is not brought up in this report is that digital comic books have a major issue ahead of it, piracy. Once the music industry flooded the internet as a digital product it was just as quickly pirated. When music fans felt as though the music industry was charging too much for the product, consumers let their moral shield fade away. Well the very same thing could happen to the comic book industry.

Of course the industry has not been immune to comic book piracy in the past, but just a few years ago most people were limited to accessing the material from just their home or office. But, with the popularity of the iPad, and other portable media players, piracy in the industry is expected to grow. With prices of most digital copies selling at a dollar discount of the paperback issue you would think that consumers would be happy but they're not.

Michael Grothaus wrote a wonderful article that made me more aware of this issue, that you can read here. He has a four step plan to help the digital comic book industry.
1. Release issues at a reasonable price of $0.99 to $1.99 each.
2. Release issues the same day that print copies ship to comic book stores.
3. Publish all current titles on the iPad.
4. Begin publishing back issues and series in groups (ie: X-Men #1-100) and sell them in groups of 25 or 50 at a reasonable price.






Excerpt from Mark Miller interview with comicbookresources.com

"I really think day and date release is a disastrous idea and makes no economic sense at all to comics as a business. It's potentially ruinous for comic stores, and in the long term it's not going to do publishers any favors either. I see the attraction on a very superficial level. They think they're cutting out the middle men and all the guys taking a piece of their gross, but there's an equivalent number of hidden costs in digital too, and it's short term thinking to obliterate the life-blood of the medium.

Retailers are as big a part of comics now as the characters or the creators. They're not just an outlet. These are carefully crafted communities and owned and staffed by people with a genuine passion for what they're doing in a way that the 'Amazon Also Recommends' box isn't quite going to match. I've got an awful lot of friends on the retail side and so many of them are hanging on by their finger-nails right now. Even a five or ten percent dip could be enough to put huge numbers of comic stores out of business. I know two huge American retailers, like really famous stores, in this position, and once they're gone these guys are gone forever. Retailers stuck with us through the '70s collapse and the '90s post-speculator boom. Shouldn't we be showing them a little loyalty now? Everything from the chair I'm sitting in to the keyboard I'm typing on has been paid for by royalties that retailers have made me, so I feel quite passionately about this."

"I'm not against digital as a concept. It's not really worth a lot of money yet, but it has the potential to be at some point and as a creator it's obviously in my interests to have my work reach as many people as possible. We just have to be sensible about it. I don't think the casual readers that digital comics are hoping to reach will mind getting the stuff a little later. I think releasing our comics, releasing the collected editions and then finally releasing digital editions seems like the most sensible approach.


Click here to read the interview in it's full entirety.

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cable23
cable23 - 11/30/2011, 12:53 PM
You wrote Mark Hamill instead of Mark Millar for the title.
jeffncarrie4234
jeffncarrie4234 - 11/30/2011, 12:55 PM
As good as an idea this seems - how do you collect a digital book. I don't just buy comics for the money, but come on part of their beauty is that the value can increase. Digital just takes all the fun out of this. I mean Comic Con would be nothing, just entertainment con.
nuck82
nuck82 - 11/30/2011, 1:10 PM
[frick] i need to meet stan lee!!!!


and $640mil [frick] i didnt know it would be that much
TheStranger
TheStranger - 11/30/2011, 1:11 PM
Stan Lee is the freakin' man! lol
nuck82
nuck82 - 11/30/2011, 1:39 PM
yeah im in cali so theres no excuse why i havent met him yet
ComicBookMoron
ComicBookMoron - 11/30/2011, 1:43 PM
To put matters in their proper perspective, this digital issue only exists in the U.S. and maybe a FEW hi-tech First World countries. This is NOT the case in other countries where PRINT is still dominant.
TheAmazingSpidey63
TheAmazingSpidey63 - 11/30/2011, 1:58 PM
STAN "THE MAN" LEE!!!!!!!!!!!!:)
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/30/2011, 2:01 PM
f*ck digital comics,i'll only start going digital if they stop making the printed comic book.

trades & graphic novels all the way baby!
Zarog
Zarog - 11/30/2011, 2:04 PM
Links don't work.
Mechagino
Mechagino - 11/30/2011, 2:17 PM
Mark millar = Douche bag but good writer.

Stan Lee = Douche Bag that takes all the credit from others yet still is a good writer. Yes, I am aware he credits them SOMETIMES but most of the time he pushes them aside for himself.
ObiBinks
ObiBinks - 11/30/2011, 2:35 PM
Obviously Stan Lee is the man. There never has been a question about that, and there never will be. But Mark Millar's right about this one. :/
JackJNapier
JackJNapier - 11/30/2011, 3:05 PM
when did new gen become a marvel series? lol
KamCannon
KamCannon - 11/30/2011, 3:51 PM
Yes let's all pile on Millar because that's the cool thing to do now it seems. Despite the fact that the man is essentially a new-age (albeit vulgar) Stan Lee, he's a vociferous salesman and his argument is COMPLETELY valid and full of actual knowledge, but you're dismissing him out of hand because you have some bias against him. Do you know how many retailers-the ones you go to now-will be out of business if digital becomes dominant? ALL OF THEM. It's barely profitable for comic shops as it is, losing more business will put them out. Look how many arcades there are now, consoles stole the business and they're dinosaurs.
Yes, there are positives to digital, but it shouldn't be the dominant form and day-and-date release will only further that. Not to mention hurting the talent that is already severely underpaid and misrepresented by the industry.
It's a very complex issue and both sides have GREAT points but all of you just telling Mark to shut up when he's making valid points disgusts me and shows me you have more of an interest in sounding 'cool' for not liking Millar than for the issues presented.
croniccris
croniccris - 11/30/2011, 4:44 PM
i thought people were piling on millar cuz he's a DOUCHE and when your a douche ppl usually don't give a shit what you say...
KamCannon
KamCannon - 11/30/2011, 4:52 PM
I've never read anything where he's been a douche. Boisterous? Yes, but so is Stan Lee. He's a salesman, that's what they do, they pimp their product. Is that somehow a bad thing? When your product is comics, I'd say that's essential. Is he exploitative? Yeah, ok, but then don't read his books. He's no more exploitative than Larsen, Ennis, McFarlane or really any of the old Image cats and like them or not they did a hell of a lot for the industry in the 90s grabbing people who'd never read comics a lot of whom made it through the 90s bubble burst and still read today.

And whether you consider them a douche or not doesn't mean they can't have good points. Following that logic train if Mark Millar cured cancer you'd think it were stupid simply because it was him.
teethsoup
teethsoup - 11/30/2011, 4:53 PM
I don't see why people rag on millar I totally agree with @kamcannon and millar about digital but I work in a comic shop and jesus he is right. also I like a lot of what millar writes.
Hardshaw
Hardshaw - 11/30/2011, 6:27 PM
Mark Millar knows what he's talking about nuff said.
Geeksiah
Geeksiah - 11/30/2011, 8:22 PM
I'm an Indie Publisher and like most Indie Publishers most our our money is made from digital.

It's a matter of time and money

GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 12/1/2011, 3:16 AM
Socialenemy
Socialenemy - 12/1/2011, 4:37 AM
In what world are digital comics cheaper? If you want to download on the day and date of release it's cover price which is total crap. Marvel charges 3.99 for print and digital which is obscure because there is half the overhead for the digital compared to print.

I collect comics and am a casual reader and the simple fact for me is most modern age books will not be worth the price to collect and store them just like anything from the nineties. Hell any character they kill is brought back so fast I don't even have time to get to the store to buy that issue. So for me, digital is fast and easy to just read the stories I enjoy and if something hits me the right way I'll buy it. For instance I totally plan on picking up a print of the new swamp thing 1 because it owned.
Shaman
Shaman - 12/1/2011, 6:04 AM
There a LOT of comics i wish to read without wanting to collect them. THAT's where digital comes in. It's bullshit that it costs the same price as print, but i also feel it's bullshit that they have to be released on the same date. I can wait for comics i don't wish to collect just fine, thank you.

As for Millar's opinion, he's biased because he knows people in retail. Thing is, i don't give a shit if oil companies close down because i will always want a more ecological alternative. So why would i care about comic book stores that don't wish to expand and sell MORE than merely comics? Certain comic stores deal in manga, animé, action figures, statuettes, video games, etc. I can get print copies sent to my house directly by buying them online. If all you're selling is printed comics, you're failing. The comic only stores are a thing of the past and i can do without them just like i'm doing fine without arcades. Boohoo plenty of store owners will lose their business. Wake up, PLENTY of businesses go bankrupt EVERY DAY. I don't see you guys going out of your way to help every damn business that can't cut it. If we evolve beyond the need of comic book stores, so be it.
StrangerX
StrangerX - 12/1/2011, 8:15 AM
I will always be a hard copy kinda guy.
OcciferPing
OcciferPing - 12/1/2011, 8:41 AM
This is the future of the comic book industry. It just doesn't have a company yet since it's self published by the author:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJjpsUk1Kkc
niknik
niknik - 12/1/2011, 9:24 AM
Cool. I can make out 9 distinctive titles in that vintage pick of Smilin' Stan, and I have 6 of them. Sweet.

And yeah, who the hell wants to spend money on a digital comic when half the reason we buy them is to collect them?
niknik
niknik - 12/1/2011, 9:29 AM
I would however buy digital back issues of early silver age titles just to use as "readers" because there's no way I'm unbagging the originals........that is IF the price was right.
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