Screenwriters Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci Talk Star Trek Sequel

Screenwriters Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci Talk Star Trek Sequel

Cowboys & Aliens screenwriters sat down for an interview with Collider. They discussed the reasons for the Star Trek delay, and if they plan to make the movie in 3D.

By nailbiter111 - Jul 28, 2011 08:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Star Trek
Source: collider.com



Can you guys talk a little bit about how it’s like to finally have it as your number one assignment?
Kurtzman: The studio was bullish and that is great. That is what you want. They set a date and we all felt strongly that we did not want to make the movie if we didn’t feel that we could match the enthusiasm and love that we brought to the first one. To put the movie out to just meet a date would not have been the way to make the movie. I think we owe too much to the fans and to ourselves to not do it that way. We really wanted to take our time until we felt that we had a story that we could stand behind and that we felt was worthy of a sequel.

Orci: And Damon was finishing Lost and we didn’t want to start without him. It was just a matter of everyone lining up.

Kurtzman: It was not wanting to rush.

Orci: It was also wanting to clear out everything else a little bit. I guess that is the horizon as you said. That is our next mountain to climb and we are all geared up.



Are you, for example, keeping a notepad on you at all times or what is your writing process like for something like this?
Orci: We are such a part of a team on Trek in terms of how it’s a development that we share with J.J., Damon, and Bryan Burk. So, yeah, you do have to keep notes and remember your stuff because it’s a band and when you get together to practice you want everyone to have done their homework a little bit as opposed to when it is just me and Alex in an office every day usually.

Kurtzman: It is different in the sense that when we wrote the first movie J.J. was only a producer and he wasn’t going to direct the movie. We were writing to get J.J. Our secret goal was to get him to do it. But he hadn’t committed to the movie so we weren’t…

Orci: Every project is different. However the fan pressure on Trek is something unlike any other project I think.

Kurtzman: That is why we didn’t want to rush it.

Orci: Yeah. We want to take in all of the information culturally because it is a cultural icon that does require a couple of different hats that other movies don’t require.

Kurtzman: When we were first approached about doing the first one we said “No.” and it took us a year to say “Yes.” for all of the same reasons. We just did not want to mess it up. I think we feel the same responsibility on 2. Now even more so actually because expectations were low on 1. No one really knew what it was going to be. Now everybody is waiting for it to match what they felt wabout the first one. So there is that added pressure.


What are your guys’ thoughts on 3D? I’m sure you guys have maybe talked about doing Trek in 3D.
Orci: It gives me a headache unless if it is animated. That is all I am going to say.

Kurtzman: I think it’s great when you have time to design your story thinking around it. I think if it’s just a matter of throwing more things at the camera I tend to personally not be much of a fan.

Orci: I bet the technology will get better and better and it will be a harder choice to decide. But for right now it is still cumbersome and it is still unbelievably expensive. Some movies wouldn’t be able to get made if it was just going to be made in 3D and some movies shouldn’t be made in 3D. With the vistas we were going to have in Cowboys & Aliens….right now with the technology my understanding is that past 50 or 100 feet you are suddenly losing this effect. So in a way you are trading that thing for the feeling of film, for seeing a real classic movie, and for seeing a natural environment. It was a debate we had on Cowboys & Aliens and we wanted to keep it true to its classic roots.

Kurtzman: We actually didn’t feel that it was as true to the story as we wanted it to be. So at the end of the day Jon certainly decided that as a filmmaker he was more interested in the 2D version and that was all we needed to hear. The last thing you want to do is force a filmmaker to do something to just make money.



I’m glad you didn’t do it in 3D. So are you guys thinking about maybe doing Star Trek 2 in 3D?
Kurtzman: I don’t think we are thinking about 3D at this point. At least I am not. I am just thinking about the story.

Orci: Yeah. We are not. I’m sure it will be budgeted both ways probably and we will be able to make an assessment there, but we actually haven’t discussed that with our band mates. I actually don’t know what they think about it.

Kurtzman: If there is a great reason to do it then it’s certainly a conversation. But we are not thinking around 3D right now.



It seems to me that the release date for next summer for Trek 2 is just an impossible task. Can we all agree that it is going to be Christmas or the following summer?
Kurtzman: I think we are still having that conversation. That is the truth.



So you guys think it could still reach next summer?
Kurtzman: I think anything is impossible. Transformers 2 was done in post strike in 3 months from the beginning of the script to the first day of shooting. So anything is possible. But, again, we have to take into account the spirit of wanting to do it right. So time is going to be a factor.



I'm not a big fan of 3D, but I'm not opposed to it either. I believe, like the writers, certain movies should be done in the format and others should not. But, Star Trek is one of the few movies that I think should be in 3D. This will be a special effects laden sci-fi movie, why wouldn't you want to use the most advanced technology?

Besides that, I appreciated their reasons for the delay. I trust that what they said was genuine, they don't want to screw it up. Star Trek fans are very loyal and hard to please. The fans are very well versed on the canon. By altering Kirk and Spock's past like the last movie did, the writers can concentrate on the film and not the accuracy of past events. If only they could bring the green girl back from the dead.
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BooYah
BooYah - 7/28/2011, 9:26 PM
Zoe Saldana is too damn hot! Great find nailbiter!
LP4
LP4 - 7/28/2011, 10:14 PM
@nailbiter- NICE find!!! ;D

Hopefully the sequel will be great.
cosmicstranger
cosmicstranger - 7/28/2011, 10:30 PM
@nailbiter- I'm vying for the Green Girl and Uhura simultaneously.

By the way, really good find and I am looking forward to this sequel more any movie coming up soon.
Ceejay
Ceejay - 7/28/2011, 10:30 PM
Meh, no more Star Trek for idiots, a film where Kirk can go from a cadet who's never been in space in his life to a full captain in a bunch of days!

Where villains come from the future with advanced technology and do nothing for 20 years waiting to get revenge on someone for something that hasn't happened yet! They don't even go to their home planet that still exists and give them the advantage of the new tech from their ship and knowledge!!

Stupidest thing was Spock being changed into ultra human version who is tied to his mother like 6 year old. Spock is actually older than Kirks dad and from an entirely different planet. Why would Kirks dad dying change HIM?

And the Vulcans where travelling through space long before their was a Federation, yet these guys had no ships to defend their planet from a junk ship with a long chain with a drill-bit at the end from wiping it out of existence? These are the smartest race in the world of Star Trek reduced to robed idiots so the average joe could enjoy some special Fx space Battles and dumb comedy!

BURN THE NEGATIVES!
LP4
LP4 - 7/28/2011, 10:35 PM
Last film was great. But my favorite Trek film always was and always will be- First Contact. First saw that movie maybe a decade ago and really loved it.

For me- that was the greatest Trek film. Really underrated though.

@Ceejay- Yeah I agree with most of your points. But if you watched the deleted scenes of Nero on the Klingon prison planet, you'd know he was held prisoner there for the 25 years he arrived in the past. Also my only beef really was that Spock became a moody child. He isn't supposed to show any emotions...ever. That and destroying Planet Vulcan but hey- it worked for the new movie. I say, enjoy the film for what it is and ignore all the inconsistencies.

How many films these days follow the source material? Not many.

But like I said- First Contact was the best Trek film IMHO
patriautism
patriautism - 7/28/2011, 10:39 PM
Orion women are hot, but for some reason I've always wanted a hot Andorian babe..

Maybe it's the antennae
Sanderman
Sanderman - 7/28/2011, 10:58 PM
What is She-hulk doing in my bed?
pintoman
pintoman - 7/29/2011, 12:03 AM
@Ceejay

You are so RIGHT ON. There were so many plot problems with the Trek story. All Orci and Kurtzman do is talk about staying true the source and "getting it right" but seriously, anyone could come up with the crap they do.
reverendjonnynemo
reverendjonnynemo - 7/29/2011, 12:12 AM
@Ceejay and pintoman...

I'm glad to see there are some intelligent film buffs left who know tripe when they see it.

Cheers lads!

@patriautism Cuz the hippies are always pushing everyone to go green?:P
reverendjonnynemo
reverendjonnynemo - 7/29/2011, 12:25 AM
@Ceejay ... you also forgot Uhura now blows her way onto the Enterprise as opposed to earning her way there as a positive role model for women.
LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 2:32 AM
@thereverendjonnynemo- Dude do you seriously have to rag on this film in every article?

Look, like I said. First Contact has always been my Trek movie. It was for me- the best one and Abrams and crew would make me happy if they made more Trek flicks like that.

But let's face it...the Trek franchise was stale and gone until Abrams came along. I actually enjoyed "Star Trek Enterprise" and saw the entire series...but I grew up with The Next Generation seeing as how I was born in '86.

I enjoyed the series but honestly, Abrams resuscitated the franchise back to life. Abrams made the film fun and flashy for a modern generation and that's how it SHOULD be. If they continued making Trek films the way they used to then I doubt it would have made very much money let alone appeal to a wide-range audience...oh and just so you know, the Star Trek 2009 film made the most money out of all the Trek films. Just an FYI.

You're not the only one who grew up with the classic stuff. But I guess some of us are more accepting of change, especially when it means bringing back a dead franchise and making it fun for people again.
LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 2:40 AM
@teabag- THANK YOU. Jesus christ people listen to teabag here.

THE. MOVIE. WAS. FUN!!!

Like I said, the classics were great...but until Abrams came along, the franchise was DEAD. It ended with Scott Bakula (but unlike most, I actually really loved the Enterprise series and loved Cap Archer and still pissed they killed Trip in the last episode)

The very fact that Abrams got STAR WARS fans to love it is also great. Yeah yeah, rag on the story as being a rip of Star Wars...whatever. As long as the movie MAKES money and BRINGS in new fans, that's all that should matter.

Also furthermore @thereverendjonnynemo- Uhura never "blew" her way onto the Enterprise. Her linguistics skills were intended to be her ability to understand and speak in alien dialects.

Hence why she was able to speak some Romulan.

Face it, the movie was fun. If you really hate all the plot holes and prefer the bloated 90 year old Shatner to return as Kirk, then go for it. But I'm quite happy with the talented cast and the liveliness Abrams brought to the stale, cold and reclusive world of Star Trek.

He opened it up to so many people and if that's something you don't like then fine, don't watch the movies. It's that simple dude.
LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 2:44 AM
@teabag- EXACTLY!!! It was a fun movie, made money and it seriously made everyone happy.

And also I am sorry for what i said about Shatner in my above comment. I respect the man for being the TRAILBLAZER for the universe of Star Trek. But I've gone around online and noticed much of the hate for this new movie revolved around Shatner not being invited to cameo...although from what Abrams said...Shatner wanted MORE than just a cameo, he wanted a starring role and let's face it...he had his day in the sun. He was Kirk for almost 3 decades.

Time for Shatner to be like the rest of us and just sit back and enjoy the movie.

LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 2:46 AM
But I guess the haters have a right to bash this movie...I mean it had-

action, romance, witty humor and just about everything perfect.

Great reason to bash the film...riiiiiight ;D

LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 3:10 AM
@reverendjonnynemo- Since you asked for it ;D

It's either Abrams or...THIS lol

LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 3:15 AM
@teabag- This one's for you buddy =D

No slow/lame fighting, no crappy-made Gorn suits. Just flashy, modern FUN!!!
LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 3:33 AM
@teabag- Hahaha yeah I know what you mean.

I hope reverendjonnynemo enjoyed that Kirk vs. Gorn clip I posted. LMAO

WORST. FIGHT. SCENE. EVER



Ceejay
Ceejay - 7/29/2011, 3:38 AM
A movie being fun is one thing, but to regress something that's intelligent just to make a quick buck from the masses is just lazy and greed orientated. It's what Lucas did to Star Wars and what Hollywood has been doing for the last 20 years to every brand-name franchise they can use to make a quick buck.

Charlies Angels
Starsky and Hutch
Green Hornet
Star Trek
Mission Impossible
Wild Wild West
Dragnet

The routine is simple, take the popular Brand-Name, turn it into either an action film or an action comedy and screw whatever the creator intended for the source material and its fans. The objective? To feed the masses who can ONLY enjoy action movies and action comedies!

So with something like Star Trek that's way too intelligent for the average knuckle-dragger to sit through with all the technical theory and science references, they simply use a template based on Star Wars A New Hope and rework it with Star Trek names and settings and fool the easily fooled into thinking they're watching a fresh new Star Trek when all it really is.. is another dumb ass Star Wars movie!
LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 3:47 AM
@Ceejay- No one here said the Abrams flick was perfect, far from it in fact. But it was at least an enjoyable popcorn flick. That's what I'm spending $10.50

If you want to go back to the way things used to be, then please refer to my Kirk vs. Gorn clip above.

But yeah, I guess it's too bad Abrams didn't use this little guy in the movie...the costume was just soooo 'genius' right?



Like I said, I'm a trek-fan. I watched all the series. But most if not all of my friends hated Star Trek and called it "boring"

I can't say I disagree with them. I only enjoyed watching it for the characterizations of each new crew of the Enterprise (aside from DS9 being a space station and all)

But I have to agree with the masses that Star Trek was literally on life-support before Abrams breathed at least SOME new life into it.

I am a fan of really entertaining, action-flicks. I don't want to sit through a movie that is boring especially when I KNOW for a FACT it can be fun and action oriented.

If the movie "Dear John" has more action and violence than a Superman or Star Trek film, that's when I get pissed.

I still say Abrams did well. He created a separate new universe of Star Trek for the sole reason so as to not piss off everyone. At least that way he can do new things with Star Trek, while leaving the 'Prime Universe' alone.

PaulRom
PaulRom - 7/29/2011, 5:20 AM
I'm all for Nichols and Saldana being tapped by me. ;P
And I'm glad they're more worried about the story than anything else, shows that they want to make the sequel GOOD.
LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 5:21 AM
@Ceejay- I'm planning to buy 'TNG' and 'Enterprise' series on dvd and I am also planning to buy 'First Contact' as well. I like the option of being able to enjoy those while also enjoying the new stuff Abrams has to offer.

Abrams tried to honor the vision of Roddenberry while NOT BEING A SLAVE TO IT EITHER. And I give him props for that. Did you really want Abrams to direct the movie to be a scene-for-scene CLONE of 'The Original Series' ? You really didn't wanna see anything new or fresh for Star Trek? Did you really want to go back to those 'Party City' costumes for Gorns and Romulans?

Sorry if I'm a fan of seeing something new with some action and some decent costumes.

Quoted directly from you:

"The routine is simple, take the popular Brand-Name, turn it into either an action film or an action comedy and screw whatever the creator intended for the source material and its fans. The objective? To feed the masses who can ONLY enjoy action movies and action comedies!"

Now if I read your comment correctly, you're angry that Abrams took Star Trek and turned it into an ACTION film thus completely disregarding Roddenberry's vision...???

So...you're angry that he took something that was BORING and made it EXCITING? You're angry that he got rid of the Party City costumes and used really cool shit for his film?

What i enjoyed about all the Star Trek series were watching the individual relationships between all the different variations of the Enterprise crew. But it couldn't hurt to put SOME GODDAMN ACTION for once.

Why do you hate the idea of a Star Trek film having action in it?

I guess our tastes in filming is vastly different then.
SonOfStarKiller
SonOfStarKiller - 7/29/2011, 5:33 AM
I've been a Trek fan since I was a kid. I've watched every series repeatedly over the years. When I knew JJ was taking over I knew he was going to make something special. I have a female friend who hated Star Trek. She Wanted nothing to do with anything involving the name. Her exact words to me were "STAR TREK IS CORNY". Then JJ's version came out and I begged her to go with me. I promised her she would love it. Against her own judgment she agreed. 3/4 through the movie I noticed she was sitting up in her seat completely immersed in the story. I remember her cheering loudly at key moments down the stretch. When it was over she thank me so much and took back everything she had said previously about this movie. She even went home and watch several episodes from the original series ('Amok Time' being her favorite). JJ and his team understood what needed to be done with the franchise. If it was to succeed it had to appeal to EVERYONE. It couldn't be about the hardcore fans anymore. I loved everything about this movie, despite it's minimal flaws. The fact that JJ could convert a hardcore Trek hater into a fan is a testament to his achievement. I cant wait for the next one. And neither can she.
LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 5:37 AM
Oh and for the record- I agree completely with teabag. Part of my issue with Kirk was always how he was basically a- self-righteous, womanizing, prick.

I get he was the trailblazer and I respect him for that but I still never got the whole- "banging green alien women" idea. It didn't sync well with Roddenberry's original vision of a racially unified universe. I mean I guess it kinda did because it showed Kirk never discriminated a woman by her skin color or origin but still...it took a sweet idea by a maverick and turned it into every man's bedroom fantasy. Not exactly the wholesome show I grew up with.

Picard, Sisko, Archer and Janeway at least took their jobs a little more seriously. And they were the captains who really made me wanna be a 'Captain' when I was a kid. Kirk never left that impression with me.

Also teabag was right. Star Trek The Motion Picture was a really boring film. I guarantee you "Ceejay" that HAD Abrams made his Star Trek movie exactly how the original series was...it would not have made anywhere NEAR the amount of money the film ended up making. And I guarantee you instead of the film being praised by non-fans, those people would instead be groaning "ugh...another boring trek film"

Thus...ding dong...the franchise is DEAD again. The franchise must change with the times. We don't live in the sexy-60's anymore. Time to make the genre more WITH THE TIMES.

Here's a cool video I enjoyed watching...


Trekkies Bash New Star Trek Film As 'Fun, Watchable'
LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 5:50 AM
@SonOfStarKiller- Your story was beautiful man, great to hear your thoughts on this situation.

I hate it when people say that only TRUE Trek-fans wouldn't stand by the Abrams flick, believe me I've heard that said on here a few times by certain CBM users.

I had a friend who HATED Star Trek. He never liked it and nor did his other friends. Well, he went to see the 2009 flick and took all of his friends who didn't like the old franchise. They all LOVED the 2009 film. And thanks to Abrams...more and more people I know are starting to really let-up on their hatred for Trek.

The film was fun and watchable. It had GREAT action sequences and great visuals. Nothing wrong with that.

CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/29/2011, 5:54 AM
@ Ceejay

Abram's Trek film was the movie of the year, and to this day has become one of my favorite movies. I can watch it over and over again! I never get tired of it. To me, thats a good movie. I'm also a fan of of The Original Saga, and Next Generation. There was enough science "jargon" in the new one to keep the same feel, but they did what I ahd always wanted in the old shows, they had action. Come on, they talked about Singularities, Time Travel, Worm Holes...this was just ONE story, they can only deal with so much in one story.

Also, things are different in this world because the entire time stream was changed. Its like the old question, if you go back the to dinosaur ages, and kill a mosquito before its time, how would that effect the rest of existence? I really mean no offense when I say this, but for someone who claims to be such an avid fan of the old shows, you sure don't seem to have much of an imagination. Again, i really don't mean offense, although i know it SOUNDS like i do.

If you don't like the things they did with certain characters, then i can't comment, thats your opinion, but i personally thought Spock was the best part of this new movie.
SonOfStarKiller
SonOfStarKiller - 7/29/2011, 5:59 AM
@LP4- Cheers. :^)
LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 6:00 AM
@teabag- Hahahaha well...i can agree with you on sisko and janeway. But come on, Archer was awesome. He was heroic, cool and the show itself was rather engaging. But it was stupid for the producers to try to make it a prequel to TOS...that's just silly. =P

But yeah, I guess you're a bigger advocate for TOS haha nothing wrong with that. I did actually (believe it or not) like TOS to a degree...but I grew up more with TNG and thus was far more exposed to the Sisko/Janeway stuff and moved on then to Archer. Picard and Archer are 2 of my favorite captains. I also hold a really soft spot for Pike in my top3 ranking of the captains.

This article also just goes to prove one more thing teabag. That despite how different our arguments are...we still came to the same conclusion- J.J Abrams made a really good reboot for Star Trek.

I mean come on, the thing made THE MOST MONEY OF ANY STAR TREK FILM and it was flashy, action-packed and really fun to watch. It made all the haters eat their words. I just can't see why certain individuals hate it because it "betrayed the vision of Gene Roddenberry"

-_-
JackBauer
JackBauer - 7/29/2011, 6:07 AM
If you don't like the reboot movie, then that's your perogative. As a diehard Trek fan who has seen every episode of every tv series as well as the films many, many, many times, this was a great, fun movie. Sure there were a few flaws in it, like Kirk making Captain so quickly, but overall it is a great film. The last really good Trek film was First Contact. Insurrection was ok, and Nemesis was a piece of shit (even with the Nolanites Tom Hardy in it :p )

@Ceejay - In the original timeline Spock is actually only 3 years older than James T. Kirk.

There were hundreds of people on the Kelvin. In the original timeline who knows what any one of them would have done if the Romulan ship hadn't traveled thru time. Perhaps some of those that died would have gone to visit Vulcan and interacted with the people there. Since that hypothetical interaction didn't take place then Vulcan's history would be altered :)
LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 6:07 AM
@CorndogBurglar- WELL PUT!! I too felt the movie had everything I wanted...plus more. And I agree with you completely- it was like the sexy-60's series but action-packed.

It blended both action and story together...it meshed them so well and it worked perfectly! Speaking from a purist's perspective, Spock got a little out of character but that was refreshing I'll agree.

I loved the Kirk/Spock focus of the film. Hopefully the sequel can explore a little more of that while also bringing the others to the limelight a bit more.

The sequel is said to focus more on the characters and their development...sounds good to me. I just wonder who the new villain will be this time!

@SonOfStarKiller- Cheers bud!! ;D



LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 6:11 AM
@JackBauer- Glad to have you on board here and once again we are on the SAME side of the fence buddy! I'm sure you remember the last "war" we waged together on this site, LOL. ;D

And I also agree with you man- First Contact was GREAT!!! It's still my #1 Trek film. The Abrams flick is my #2.


CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/29/2011, 6:15 AM
@ LP4

thanks man! I also wonder who the villains will be, I think the next logical villains will be Klingons, but i kind of hope not. Klingons have been done to death, i would like to see a lesser known race, or maybe even an entirely new race?

Although i wouldn't blame them for using Klingons either.

lol, remember the Klingons in the Original Saga? heh heh.
JackBauer
JackBauer - 7/29/2011, 6:17 AM
@LP4 & tea - The reboot did capture the fun and action of the original series, but I've always preferred Sisko and DS9 over the other series. I guess I'm a nut for war stories :)

Rachel Nichols didn't do justice to the part. This is what an Orion slave girl should look like

LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 6:19 AM
@teabag- Hahahaha cool bro! You should check out the episode of Enterprise called "Resurrection" when i first saw it...it KIND OF brought me back to the greatness of 'First Contact' my all-time favorite Trek film.

But I agree with you totally...all the later series did try to distance themselves from TOS. What I did like about TOS were the random and silly encounters they'd have with tons of different kooky villains. It was enjoyable.

Still love Mirror Universe Spock with his goatee. Tribbles were awesome and the episode 'Day of the Dove' was pretty kooky too. :)
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/29/2011, 6:20 AM
@ tea

"I cant sit through a TNG episode now...its like they crawl at a snails pace with pointless filler....and everyother episode someone falls in love with someone from the Holodeck lol :P"

I know, right? haha. TNG was awesome when it was on, but nowadays, its tough to watch. There were so many episodes that were so boring, like when Data and Picard were in the holodeck and they were like Sherlock Holmes and Watson...or the other one where they were like mobsters. Or any of the episodes with Beverly Crusher's son. Ugh.

I do want that food replicator thing they have though, lol.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/29/2011, 6:25 AM
I thought First Contact spent too much time in the past, and not enough time dealing with the Borg.

CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/29/2011, 6:25 AM
@ tea

hahaha. I don't know, Ryker was like a cross between Picard and Kirk though, he was a pimp, but smart too.
LP4
LP4 - 7/29/2011, 6:26 AM
@CDB- Yeah man, I think Klingons could appear...BUT not as the main antagonists. I figure...in Kirk's time they still weren't part of the Federation of Planets, so maybe they could help whoever the main villains are. I figured out a cool idea...maybe...Talosians creating a mirror universe...???

Not sure they can actually do that but I know they can create a new world psychologically. ;D

Gorn could be good as the new villains IF done correctly of course!

@JackBauer- Hahahaha so...teabag is more for TOS, you're more for DS9 and I'm a TNG/Enterprise nutball ;P (I still can't decide between those two but def my fav Trek series by far.

I'd love to hear which series CDB and SonofStarKiller liked the most too!

Awesome that we all liked the Abrams flick too! hahahaha great stuff guys!!

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