TERMINATOR 2: JUDGEMENT DAY Director James Cameron Explains Why Arnie Being A Good Guy Was Never A Spoiler

TERMINATOR 2: JUDGEMENT DAY Director James Cameron Explains Why Arnie Being A Good Guy Was Never A Spoiler

For years, fans have questioned why the trailers for Terminator 2: Judgement Day revealed the T-800 would be on the side of the angels. Now, director James Cameron explains why it was never a spoiler...

By JoshWilding - Feb 09, 2023 07:02 PM EST
Filed Under: Terminator
Source: Empire (via SFFGazette.com)

Arnold Schwarzenegger played the evil T-800 in 1984's The Terminator, with his defeat at the hands of Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor still one of the most satisfying moments in cinematic history. However, when the trailers for Terminator 2: Judgement Day started dropping years later, it was made clear that the returning cyborg was now on the side of the angels. 

It appeared to be a fairly significant spoiler to put in the marketing campaign, and fans have wondered for years why filmmaker James Cameron didn't save the reveal for when they sat down in theaters to watch it. 

The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power co-showrunner Patrick McKay recently posed that question to the Avatar: The Way of Water helmer as part of an Empire Q&A (via SFFGazette.com). Cameron was quick to confirm that he never intended the T-800's heroic role in the follow-up to be a secret. 

"All of us have had our battles with the Suits, but the case you mention was not a battle. The Carolco guys, Mario Kassar and Andy Vajna, were good partners with me on T2, and I led the charge on marketing, including showing Arnold as the good guy," he recalls. "It wasn’t a Sixth Sense kind of twist that’s revealed only at the end of the film."

"He's revealed as the Protector at the end of Act One. And I always feel you lead with your strongest story element in selling a movie."

For Cameron, the goal was to get the audience intrigued by the idea that the once-evil cyborg had somehow become a hero, serving as an unlikely ally to Sarah and her son rather than pursuing them as his predecessor once did. 

"I believed our potential audience would be more attracted to seeing how the most badass killing machine could become a hero than they would be to just another kill-fest in the same vein as the first film," the director says. "Sequels have to strike a delicate balance between honoring the most loved elements from the first film, but also promising to really shake things up and turn them upside down. Our marketing campaign for T2 was exactly that promise, and it worked."

It did indeed, and as well as being a critical and commercial hit at the time, Terminator 2: Judgement Day is quite rightly considered one of the greatest sci-fi movies ever made. 

Do you think this "twist" is one that should have been saved for theaters?

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Jaspion
Jaspion - 2/9/2023, 7:05 PM
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 2/9/2023, 7:08 PM
It not just a twist to the first act, it's a twist to the entire franchise. Regardless, I came late, very late into the Terminator franchise since I wasn't even born, so that shit was spoiled for me anyways. But I get the frustration from fans. I get James points but I don't agree, it's definitely something he should've held onto.
dracula
dracula - 2/9/2023, 7:09 PM
Would have made for a cool trick if they went with their early idea of also bringing back kyle’s actor but as the t1000
Origame
Origame - 2/9/2023, 7:42 PM
@dracula - eh I think it worked fine as is. Especially since they hid that the t1000 was also a terminator.
Rosraf
Rosraf - 2/9/2023, 9:07 PM
@dracula - Cameron cast Robert Patrick because he thought he looked like a cross between Arnold and Reese (Michael Biehn).
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 2/9/2023, 7:18 PM
"He's revealed as the Protector at the end of Act One."

He's revealed as the Protector in the middle of the first trailer.
Origame
Origame - 2/9/2023, 7:43 PM
@Reeds2Much - thats the point. He's justifying the choice to put him in the trailer.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 2/9/2023, 9:00 PM
@Origame - There was nothing to justify. Fans weren't wondering for years why the trailer showed Arnie high fiving a kid.
Origame
Origame - 2/9/2023, 9:07 PM
@Reeds2Much - they weren't wondering that. But it's a common complaint that it spoils how the established villain was a good guy in this movie.
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 2/9/2023, 7:20 PM
I was very young when I first saw the movie, so I never even thought about that debate.

That being said, I agree with his logic.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 2/9/2023, 7:23 PM
Easily one of the greatest action movies ever.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 2/9/2023, 7:25 PM
The trailers before the movie was released didnt show that...
SATW42
SATW42 - 2/9/2023, 7:57 PM
I don’t know why Arnold was featured so heavily in the advertising regardless of allegiance because we all know this is a Linda Hamilton vehicle
BGarlz92
BGarlz92 - 2/9/2023, 8:58 PM
he overly telegraphed the "twist" with their introductions. Robert Patrick jumps straight to murder, while Arnold injures but doesn't really kill the people, he takes his stuff from.

Look at the opening for the first, Arnold kills two of the punks right away no remorse, Reese takes the pants from the bum and holds up the cops but doesn't kill anyone. So, it isn't hard to know almost instantly, and I don't think it qualifies as a twist.
Rosraf
Rosraf - 2/9/2023, 9:07 PM
Thanks for the spoiler in the headline!
LSHF
LSHF - 2/10/2023, 12:40 AM
@Rosraf - Exactly! Now I'm not going to see this at the theater! I'll wait until it comes out on VHS.
Rosraf
Rosraf - 2/9/2023, 9:12 PM
And they used the "new" terminator with liquid metal special effects as part of their marketing too. That was a really new effect at the time that got people's attention.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 2/9/2023, 9:57 PM
It wasn’t kept a secret when they were making it, so it wasn’t exactly a surprise in the trailer either.
Dredd97
Dredd97 - 2/9/2023, 10:39 PM
who cares? if a spoiler ruins your movie, that's all the movie had going for it, and that's bad. Cameron da God is right as always
DocSpock
DocSpock - 2/9/2023, 10:54 PM


How could the guy who made 2 of the greatest movies of all time make those stupid Avatar movies?

HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 2/9/2023, 11:51 PM
Greatest action movie ever, one of the greatest sequels ever, and one of the greatest movies ever made.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 2/10/2023, 12:49 AM
@HeavyMetal4Life - 🔥🤝❤️💯💁🙆💪
NicholiB
NicholiB - 2/10/2023, 12:53 AM
How could Arnold play an evil robot? Robot's are machines that just act in line with their programming so no emotions.
Rosraf
Rosraf - 2/10/2023, 7:47 AM
@NicholiB - Well, the whole franchise is promised on machines becoming sentient and trying to work out human civilization. So O guys you just Heather to roll with that one.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/10/2023, 4:40 AM
I don't mind that, but I did with the John Connor reveal in Genysis. Don't remember if that was a first act reveal as well though
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/10/2023, 4:46 AM
"It wasn’t a Sixth Sense kind of twist that’s revealed only at the end of the film."


Kids these days don't understand what a real spoiler actually is.

Kids? Here's a couple of clues:

1. There's no time limit on a real spoiler.

2. Most films do not have anything in them that can be considered spoilers.

Now go figure it out yourselves because I'm too busy smh.
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