Homecoming Heartbreak: What happened with Spider-Man?

Homecoming Heartbreak: What happened with Spider-Man?

Rapturous praise for yet another Marvel film? I guess I'll be that guy, but I saw a much more flawed movie than everybody else. Hear me out for a sec...

Editorial Opinion
By RobGrizzly - Jul 29, 2017 03:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Homecoming
 

Like anybody, I was thrilled to hear the news that after so many years, and what seemed like an impossibility, Spider-Man would finally be a part of the Marvel Cinematic universe. Even if two studios had to temporarily share him, the web-slinger could now interact with all the great heroes the MCU has established onscreen. Better still, was his actual onscreen debut in Captain America: Civil War. During the casting process for the new Peter Parker, I was pulling for the little-known Tom Holland as a perfect choice, having seen his amazing work in The Impossible. So, when he got the part I was over the moon. And in those few short scenes in New York with Aunt May, I knew we were in for something special. When Spiderman joins, the airport battle, quipping with Steve Rogers, and asking “Mr. Stark” for tips, I damn near had a tear in my eye. They nailed it. The previous movies came close in certain ways, but couldn’t quite stick the landing. Now we are finally going to get the quintessential version of Spider-Man!
 
It would turn out Civil War was as good as he was going to be.
 
So, what happened? How could such a sure thing get so botched? Perhaps the Russo’s just ‘get’ the character better. Perhaps working in small doses just made Parker all the more appealing. For whatever the reason, Spider-Man: Homecoming is a far cry from “Underoos” charming his way into my heart.
 
**FULL SPOILERS STARTING NOW **
 

This was an approach that the director said was going to be like a John Hughes movie, but it’s just lip service because there is no real teenage social commentary, and outside of his invented fat friend, (who I guess is some sort of take on Ganky from the Ultimate universe, ugh), there’s never enough camaraderie between Peter or any of the classmates for it to feel that way. There is especially no chemistry with he and his crush Liz Allen. It’s a big failing not only of this script (since she is a key goal he hopes to achieve), but even when compared to romances of past movies. [sidebar reminder: And not establishing Harry Osborne early on proved to be a huge mistake for The Amazing Spiderman series, because they didn’t have a relationship we could care about. Of course, these new movies could just never do Green Goblin, which would make sense since this is the definitive Spider-man, and he’s not important]
 
There was some fan trepidation about going back to High School yet again, but I looked forward to it because there are plenty of interesting obstacles that can come from this setting. The movie doesn’t capitalize on any. Tests aren’t a problem, competitions, dances- the trademark of Spidey’s struggle is finding out how he can balance his crimefighting with his personal life. That’s not an issue in this movie. When Peter skips out on his classmates’ debate, they still win anyway. When he ditches Liz Allen’s party, it doesn’t really matter to anything, and even worse, after blowing her off at the homecoming, she’s only mildly disappointed in him. There simply are no consequences in this movie. Peter’s “dilemma” of having a secret identity aren’t a challenge because none of the choices he makes have repercussions.  Even after fighting her Vulture father, Liz is written out of the story so Peter doesn’t have to face her anymore. There are a lot of easy “outs” in this movie.


The clearest offender here is the one right on the surface: Iron Man. Thanks to an aggressive marketing campaign, fans feared about how much Tony Stark would be involved in this story. While the man himself is only in a few scenes, his presence permeates throughout the film; through the tons of scenes with Happy Hogan, all the mentions of the ‘Stark Internship’ cover, down to the fact that Spider-Man‘s suit has A.I. just like Iron Man. Named Karen, Peter ostensibly has a better relationship with it, than he does his own Aunt May, who is barely in the film. The fact that Peter doesn’t have to make his own tech (it’s literally handed to him), or that he doesn’t have to take care of an elderly Aunt, Fat Ned helping him out as ‘man in chair’ (My #1 most hated thing about CW shows), the lack of fallout from his choices…A lot of this absolves Peter of meaningful development or problem-solving on his own, and I think it makes the movie lack heart. His desperate desire to be an Avenger is so superficial, that the closest thing to an arc Peter has is simply going from being a screw up to not being a screw up.
 
With such an obsession with being fresh, what we got here was loss of the familiar. A movie that’s new for the sake of being new, without much depth to go along with it. You don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater, but in their need to forego another origin rehash, Marvel and Sony lose the essence of what makes Spider-Man, Spider-Man: “With great power comes great responsibility.” There is no mention of this, and therefore, it begs the question why he’s doing what he’s doing in the first place. The movie’s answer: Because it’s fun. Forget about the guilt he bears, not wanting what happened to Uncle Ben to happen to anyone else, because it is all about the Marvel creed, ethos, philosophy, and modus operandi. Here in the MCU, “Fun” is sort of like beef- It’s what’s for dinner.
 
Truth be told, I am tiring of the joke-a-paloozas that have become Marvel movies (Thor 3 looks like it will be the epitome of this), and for better or for worse, Spider-Man has definitely been MCU’ed. There’s a joke or gag seemingly every 15 seconds, even from the bad guys, and often undercutting many moments that might be dramatic or important. It wouldn’t be so bad, if it was actually funny, but a lot of it isn’t. There’s a whole scene with Donald Glover and Peter’s ‘scary voice’ that just falls flat. Most egregious, is one in which Ned is caught on the computer and off the top of his head, tells his teacher… he’s watching porn….Crickets in my theater.  It’s clear the movie has nothing interesting to say, it’s just a shame since there were some possibilities here.
 

The beginning starts strong enough, with Adrian Tooms’ contracting job outsourced, and he and his crew left without work. This was not only a great way to set up a sympathetic villain, but an awesome entry point for Spiderman movies to merge with this universe, based off tangible fallout from one of the MCU’s most significant events. Michael Keaton, though nowhere near as old as the character should be, is very good in the role, and the best thing about the movie. The film’s only other genuinely great scene is when he drives the kids to the dance, and works out that Peter Parker is in fact the Spider-Man, who’s been foiling his crimes. Keaton keeps Tooms sharp, and that makes him standout out from your typical blue-collar criminals.
 
Unfortunately, The Vulture himself is still a pretty one-note villain, and a lot about him doesn’t track, from his ruthless turn (which happens way too quickly and easily), to his twist about being Liz’s dad- a hackneyed complication for complication’s sake, because it didn’t change anything. Another cool Spidey villain, Shocker, gets even less, and Bokeem Woodbine (taking up the mantle from an unlucky thug) is in the type of henchmen role an X-Men movie might waste one of their great characters in.
 

Waste was my takeaway from a lot of this movie. Wasted set pieces. Spider-Man’s skillset should show us some of the most exciting action around, but nothing here is particularly exciting. A wasted chance to do something interesting with the new Flash Thompson. Inexplicably, he is on the nerd brigade with Peter, and his “bullying” is way lame. Nelson from The Simpsons is more intimidating. A wasted chance to finally, get a bombshell MJ worthy of her name, as an improvement over Kirsten Dunst. Instead we get popstar playing hipster in a non-twist that only muddies things up. Off screen reports say Michelle’s “MJ” isn’t Mary Jane’s “MJ”, so if the real one ever shows up, to what purpose does it serve having two leading ladies sharing the same names in these movies? What was the point of the twist? It becomes meaningless. It’s Mandarin/Trevor back-pedaling all over again.  
 
When I leave movies like this, I ask myself, “Could they have done more?” The answer is easily yes. This is how you establish standards.  Spider-man: Homecoming was a wasted chance to really outdo the Amazing Spiderman movies, as well as the Raimi Trilogy. But it’s barely only better than a couple of them. Sure, it was funny watching how useless webbing is outside of Manhattan. Sure, I never get tired of Tom Holland's wide-eyed wonder of everything being "awesome." But being back with Marvel, my expectations were high, and it’s a shame I can’t say Homecoming fully succeeds in a stronger way. I should be hyped for the next one, but instead I’m worried about what they’ll screw around with next. I suppose this is the future, and this film may well be a “through the looking glass” moment for me. This is just what movies will be from now on.  Homecoming isn’t bad by any means, but both previous cinematic versions have more elements that are closer to what Spider-Man is for me than this, which is a lot more millennial/Disney XD in style and attitude.
 
 
 
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ChrisRed
ChrisRed - 7/30/2017, 3:55 AM
I agree with a lot of what you are saying.
Much of the movie didn't really feel like Spider-Man. The whole 'no consequences' thing kinda ruins it. I hadn't even thought about that until now.

Spidey has the probably best supporting cast in Marvel, yet all are wasted here: Aunt May barely appears, Flash is an unintelligent nerd who makes penis jokes, Ned is unfunny and annoying and the MJ comment might just have ruined any hope the fans had of getter a proper Mary Jane in the MCU.
Also not even mentioning uncle Ben was weird.

The movie also made Peter less inventive by having him using Tony's tech and not inventing anything himself.

Tony and Happy are way too important in the movie talking time from development of aunt May, Liz, Shocker and all the others. I did like the small appearance of Pepper though.

The movie did have a lot of good stuff too like Spidey needing to run when he can't swing, the Washington and ferrie incidents and the end battle.

I'm very optimistic about the sequel and where the story will go. As long as neither Tony, Happy or some other MCU hogs the spotlight.
RobGrizzly
RobGrizzly - 7/30/2017, 7:59 AM
@ChrisRed - I liked the running stuff too. But I didn't care for the action. The Ferry and Washington scenes were more rescues than real action, and there was plenty of bystander comedy sprinkled in, which undercut the suspense. And I thought the last fight was hard to tell what was going on. For the sequel, I hope a new director can do some cooler stuff.
Phlegmbot
Phlegmbot - 8/4/2017, 4:00 PM
@RobGrizzly - As the guy who wrote this critique here on CBM:
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man/homecoming/notmyspiderman-or-how-i-learned-about-film-am-shocked-this-wasnt-a-bomb-a152330, I think you make a LOT of salient points.

But I will disagree with one: The fact that Peter was dating Tooms' daughter is partly why he sees Peter as a good guy, and, it could be argued, the reason Tooms protects Peter in the tag.

But, yeah, they've forgotten that what makes Peter Parker work is his depth. If you read my piece, you'll see that I also think they gave him the short-shrift on smarts too.

But well done. Nice article.
GoldenMan
GoldenMan - 7/30/2017, 4:48 AM
Tbh lots of the humour you took issue with I know my screenings were all laughing (myself included)! But I guess that's just the way the news goes.
RobGrizzly
RobGrizzly - 7/30/2017, 7:38 AM
@GoldenMan - I guess so. The vibe in my audience was a bit more muted, but I was sitting next to a kid and their parents, and that porn moment was super awkward (I heard the mom whisper "inappropriate")
CAPTAINPINKEYE
CAPTAINPINKEYE - 7/30/2017, 6:13 AM
I got to say I saw this just last night with my wife. It was so disappointing for both of us. Maybe not because it was a bad movie but just not a movie for us. We both felt that this movie was written to please 10-18 year old viewers. Yes it had some cool effects yes it had some humour but so much of the movie was plots we've seen hundreds of times before and they were done better. I actually told my wife at one point during the movie that I wish it was over right now. Just like the last 2 movies, I never want to see this movie again. I'm not gonna say it was bad or that it "sucked" but it was not for me or my wife. We both liked WW. We both thought WW was a better movie and aimed for an older audience.
RobGrizzly
RobGrizzly - 7/30/2017, 8:01 AM
@CAPTAINPINKEYE -
Yea, it skews pretty young, and I definitely got the sense I was not the target audience here. Wonder Woman was better for me as well.
BaronZemo
BaronZemo - 7/30/2017, 2:58 PM
I agree with most of what you are saying. Good job taking a risk, because everyone seems to think it's the definitive version of spiderman in the big screen. I hate it when something just becomes gospel on the internet: HOMECOMING IS THE BEST AND IF YOU DENY IT YOU'RE NOT A TRUE FAN
0mega140
0mega140 - 7/30/2017, 7:04 PM
SOrry but TASM1 and TASM2 with any complain about his haters but is more memorable and more closer to the essences of the comic than Homecoming.

Damn!!! Even spiderman 3 has more heart and soul than Homecoming.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 7/30/2017, 9:19 PM
I enjoyed it a lot. But, I'm not gonna say it's my favorite just because it's an MCU film, and that's my favorite film franchise. See, I'm a huge Spider-Man fan. But I still don't think we have seen a definitive Spider-Man film. I love them all, but I can't pick a favorite. I judge by repeat viewings. I've only seen Homecoming once though. And out of the other five films, Amazing Spider-Man is the easiest for me to rewatch. It's the best version of Spider-Man. Not Peter Parker. That goes to Raimi's Spider-Man part one. But my main issue with that film is how long they spend on his origin. My main issue with 2 is the whole arc about him losing his powers just because his confidence or conscious. Then the 3rd had that horribly written angry Parker bit. So while the first film got Parker right, I didn't care what they put him through in the sequels.

Now in the Amazing franchise, I don't like the convoluted way the made him Spider-Man. But other than that they did Spider-Man better. Much better. But not so much with Peter Parker. The only other crime these movies really committed was what you said about not introducing us to Harry earlier. And while I was cool with the IDEA of what they were doing with Rhino, they dropped the ball on that.

Now Homecoming was a great take on both fronts. But the lack of any mentioned influence from Uncle Ben, to ignoring how Spider-Man fought in Civil War made the movie feel weird to me at times. Especially since me and the family rewatch ed Civil War the night before. But I did love what they did with the Vulture. And in the comics he is hands down one of my least favorite of Spider-Mans recurring rogues. Was a little disappointed in the action scenes as well.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 7/30/2017, 9:21 PM
I meant Amazing Spider-Man 2 is easiest for me to rewatch.
Scrugulus
Scrugulus - 8/1/2017, 12:16 PM
I liked Homecoming a lot, but I can accept most of your arguments. Just a few things:

- they were deliberately targeting a younger audience (like they were, arguably, with Ant-Man). It's common sense, business-wise. The MCU has to draw in younger crowds from time to time in order to survive. Soon, most young people who go the cinema will be too young to have seen the first Ironman in its original run.

- most people seem to agree that a "bully" who is similar to you, but is basically a dick, is far more realistic than the old "random-member-of-a-random-sports-team-pushes-chess-enthusiast-into-locker" cliché.

- you are saying there is no "balance-struggle". The balance struggle is clearly there. E. g., he is forced to bail on the quiz team at the important event, even though he knows how important that thing is for the girl he has a crush on. He even misses out on the fun at the pool....

- as for actions having consequences: these consequences are clearly there, they are just represented in a different way. Mostly, they have to do with hubris, as there are consequences to Peter getting involved in things he is not ready for (ATM robbery; ferry incident; etc.). (And since hubris is Tony Stark's biggest flaw, there is a lot of potential here for their future relationship.)

But I think where we differ is also the definition of "consequences". IMO, Peter does NOT have to see someone die because of his actions. He merely has to see (and understand) that someone ALMOST died because of his actions. Because the effect on the character and on the audience is exactly the same in each case.

By gearing Homecoming more towards "almost"-scenarios, Marvel/Sony can have a hero that still learns something / grows as a character - while avoiding to have a Peter Parker that is a sad, gloomy sack. It is that last thing that I repeatedly heard comic book fans complain about regarding the earlier Spider-Man films, and so I see Homecoming as something that addresses that problem/complaint.
JaredRWebb12
JaredRWebb12 - 8/1/2017, 8:34 PM
Saw the movie today and I agree with what you wrote,but I'd like to add:
1) Hannibal Burress and Donald Glover are wasted in their roles(but steal EVERY scene they're in)
2)Whats the deal with Michael Keaton doing a Nicholson impression?
3)Maybe I'm just used to my ghetto high school(graduated 2016),but Flash would be thrown in a locker,drug out,pissed on,and thrown back in the locker.
4)school of nerds,but they have a football field? They must suck then
TopDollar
TopDollar - 8/3/2017, 5:30 AM
I too found it to be quite flawed. It had its enjoyable aspects, especially when it came to Vulture, but overall I found this reboot to be uninspired. Raimi's films get a lot of flack for being too "cheesy", but they were oozing with that 60's comic book feel. They emulated it to a tee. Webb's first film had some potential, but all of that was squandered by its lackluster sequel. This new one just felt like "Spider-Man reboot #2". It wasn't bad by any means... it just didn't have the impact I was hoping for.
BloodyBed
BloodyBed - 8/3/2017, 9:54 PM
I wish I never read any of this
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