How SHOULD we be feeling about the new Spidey flick anyway?

How SHOULD we be feeling about the new Spidey flick anyway?

I LOVE IT! I HATE IT! (Hmm, Gwen looks pretty good...)

Editorial Opinion
By RobGrizzly - Feb 07, 2012 06:02 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

Could The Amazing Spider-Man legitimize reboots? The real question we should be asking- even if we liked the trailer, is what exactly this movie will bring that Raimi’s haven’t already. For better or worse, Sam did a pretty damn good job adapting your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. Say what you will about someone not being “hot” enough, or “funny enough” or whatever enough, The core essence of the character- the dilemma of boy vs. responsibility, in all aspects (home, friends, the public) was well explored. Especially in arguably, the best superhero movie ever made, Spider-Man 2 (or as I like to call it, “The Good One”).



So that leaves Mark Webb and co. to go between the lines- and maybe even concoct some new stuff of their own. The new trailer emphasizes a mysterious past for Parker’s parents, and hints that becoming Spider-Man might have been his destiny. This might not sit well with the theme that Peter truly was an everyman, who had greatness thrust upon him. The power/responsibility mantra isn’t just a catchphrase- it is rooted in that meaning. Not sure how this will play out, but it’s understandable for any reboot to try and establish its own origins and mythology- even if the backstory was basically nailed in previous outings.



The best thing 'Amazing' has going for it, is the star-powered cast, especially rising favorite Emma Stone. A proper take on Peter’s relationship with Gwen, and more of a highlight on Parker’s scientific mind will be much welcomed.
Mechanical web shooters > organic web shooters. Always.
But I also think the ‘Batman’ approach is appealing. Yes, I am one of those idiots who thinks more movies need to be like Batman. Know why? Because Batman is good. CBM’s that aren’t Batman? Not so much.


Instantly this feels like Batman because many of the scenes take place at night. It is easy to equate night-time with dark and rough, since most movies of that ilk share this setting. For my money, that doesn’t have to be a bad thing. Again, this is about not being the same as the other movies and offering a different take. For my money it makes sense anyway because the Lizard is likely going to want to stay hidden from people when he’s outside.

Another Batman-esque aspect is the new vigilante element. Raimi’s films played this for laughs through J. Jonah Jameson and some of the Daily Bugle newspaper headlines. Amazing Spider-Man seems to go edgier, with Captain Stacy in a very active role, going so far as to issue a police manhunt for the wall-crawler. Seeing a tangible, negative effect Spider-Man has on the outside world, will be refreshing. No more happy parades- we’re getting something closer to Watchmen or Kick-Ass here.



I always thought Spider-Man 1 felt like two movies. The first half, the origin was excellent. The second half, when it actually becomes an action-adventure movie is mostly cheesy. Willem DeFoe was great Norman Osborne, but I hated, hated, hated the Green Goblin Power Ranger costume, and thus never could get behind this movie. There were also silly moments like kids not moving when giant things are going to fall on them, and by standers pointing and literally exclaiming cartoonishly “Look! It’s Spider-Man!”
But that’s the fun of the comics, and to be fair Raimi captured this.



Confession time:
I never had a problem with Venom. In fact, for me the last act was when Spider-Man 3 finally picked up. Was Topher Grace miscast? Sure. Was Venom under-written? Absolutely. But this is the fault of Sam Raimi, who never liked or understood the character, not the Sony studios. Yes, Sony forced Venom into the movie, but you know why? Because they know that’s who fans wanted to see. Not the effing Sandman. (are you kidding me? Sandman? Really?) if you are going to fault Spidey 3 for anything, fault it for the unnecessary retconning of making Flint Marko Uncle Ben’s killer. This is a Joker-killing-batman’s-parents type of crime against fans, and basically, a poor excuse to SQUEEZE HIM into the movie, not Venom, who really, had been set up the entire film with the alien symbiote. Even Goblin II paid-off what had been set up for 2 movies. (I won’t get into the costume and surfboard, but still)



But that is what its’ going to all come down to. The villain. Can Amazing Spider Man’s Lizard, a character that Raimi teased but never truly wanted to use (or he would have done it already- no he wanted Vulture for Spiderman 4) actually work onscreen? Fighting a giant CG monster is a tough sell, and it’s a reason why flicks like Van Helsing failed. But so far so good. I like what I’m seeing, but remember- its Doctor Octopus that every Spidey rogue now has to live up to.



In summation, I’m not just jumping on a bandwagon and suddenly crapping all over the old movies just because a new take has arrived. I hated when people did that to Burton for Nolan, and its bad that people are doing that to Singer’s X-Men for Matthew Vaughn. I’m medium on Spiderman 1 and 3, but LOVE Spidey 2. And as a vocal naysayer of this reboot’s very existence, I may have to eat crow, I liked the trailer so much. But I’m keeping an open mind, and measuring my expectations.
I hope other fans can do the same.
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ThreeBigTacos
ThreeBigTacos - 2/7/2012, 7:23 PM
"Fighting a giant CG monster is a tough sell, and it’s a reason why flicks like Van Helsing failed."


Very excellent point, however, if done correctly i.e Lord of the Rings, hell even Transformers (humans vs robots in some scenes) it can lead to some awesome things. The thing the lizard has going for it, is that he is both scary and agile in the environment, and he isn't as 'restrained' as some movie monsters can be in terms of movement, placement, etc.

So hopefully it comes out great. Excellen write up!
Supes17
Supes17 - 2/7/2012, 7:38 PM
Great article!
Frogman
Frogman - 2/8/2012, 3:58 AM
I don't see why it has to be one or the other. I like Burton and Nolan's takes on Batman, I prefer Nolan's but that doesn't make me hate Burton's I still enjoy the Burton films.

I figure it'll be the same with Spider-Man, I'll enjoy Webb's but that doesn't mean I'll stop liking Raimi's.

A lot of people on here are too competitive. Just look at the Marvel vs. DC war they have going. People obviously can't enjoy more than one thing... oh wait... yes they can because I manage just fine!
mrexcellent
mrexcellent - 2/8/2012, 10:46 AM
That's a very well written article there. I'm not sure I agree with all of it, but it was a good piece of commentary.

I do have to say though, that as great as Emma Stone may be, it is Andrew Garfield who has really caught my attention here. Ever since it was announced that Andrew would be playing Spider-man I've been looking into his work. I've found that he's a great actor, worthy of the hype, but he brings many of the same sensibilities into all of his projects. By that I mean, he's very much Andrew Garfield in "Boy A", "Never Let Me Go", "I'm Here", and even "The Social Network". It's not a bad thing per say, because he always delivers very sincere performances, but I've been hoping that he would disappear into his role as Peter Parker.

From what I've seen in the trailer, he has brought the sincerity, but he's embraced his inner prankster, he's tapped into his funny side, and he sounds like a New Yorker. I really dig the Queen's accent, and I'm glad it's not an ambiguous American accent. To me, it's an extra layer to the performance, icing to the cake I guess.
webheaded
webheaded - 2/8/2012, 2:00 PM
I grew up with the old trilogy, it's a big part of my childhood. The peak of my childhood was seeing Spider-Man 2 in theaters at age 9. I was furious when I heard the reboot news. But then, I did something that most people should do before they go hating, I researched.
I was very pleased with what I read. Andrew was becoming our new Peter, so I went and watched Social Network. I was totally onboard with him. The rest of the casting was impressive aswell. All of the information, trailers, and facts are lining up and showing that this movie could revive Spider-Man for the new generation of people. I, for one, can't wait.
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