RUMOR MILL: Kirsten Dunst And Dane DeHaan May Reprise SPIDER-MAN And TASM 2 Roles In The MCU

@VicSage - ugh

@TheWalkingCuban - let me get a buckle bag

@TheWalkingCuban - Watching the Raimi movies, I feel like they must have gone through gallons of Visine. Everybody just looked so glassy-eyed the whole trilogy.

But as for the meth, I'm here for it...

@Spidey91 - It's true that it feels like the work of a website like We Got This Covered (the number one factory of fake news on the web), but it's true that Kevin Feige is trying to bring back a lot of non-MCU actors. J.K. Simmons was brought back, now Jamie Foxx, and Kevin Feige also tried to bring back Patrick Stewart who declined.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2488870/marvels-kevin-feige-met-with-patrick-stewart-about-reprising-professor-x

There is definitely something happening.

@Amuro - I'm hoping this is all part of a big multiverse victory lap post-Endgame, but that the mainline MCU universe will settle down a bit. WandaVision, Loki, and Doctor Strange are all clearly "Marvel-Multiverse", and if there's still movement on Captain Britain we could see more of it. And who the hell knows with Spider-Man.

If Feige wants to use that opportunity for some fan-service of other non-MCU Marvel franchises, then there's likely no harm. (Especially if it's to give one last curtain call and an opportunity to work with the G1 X-Men that really started Feige's journey.)

But there are still projects like Falcon and Winter Soldier and Black Widow that feel like the world of the MCU itself still matters. The politics of that world, the governments of that world, and the threats to that world. Eternals, too, is likely to put the planet's fate at the forefront, without worrying about infinite parallel realities where everything works out just find.

Hopefully they find the right balance. Hopefully.

@Amuro - That being said, Spider-Holland had different mentors with every film. First, Tony Stark. Then, Mysterio (who turned out to be a treacherous and deceptful one). It would make sense for Peter's final mentor to be an older, more experienced Spider-man from an alternate dimension, the very person he is destined to become.

@Amuro - Or maybe Tobey is more the cautionary example, like in Spider-Verse. Yes, heroic and experienced in his own way, but also with tragedy and pathos (and that's in keeping with the Raimi movies, I think).



It is sort of a shame that Spider-Verse already hit a lot of these same notes (so recently and so excellently), because I don't think anyone wants the live-action movies to try to recapture that same magic exactly.

Holland's Peter has struggled so much with his own identity in these movies. Yes, being in the shadow of Iron Man and his chosen successor (we've all digested that theme by now). But also who he is, and why he's the guy in these movies. There's a meta-textual element to it, almost as if Holland's Peter is acutely aware that he's "wearing somebody else's suit" in a way that RDJ's Tony, Evans' Rogers, etc. just aren't (because they each got to define their roles in live-action for this generation).

Tom Holland isn't Spider-Man to audiences. He's a Spider-Man. And there are hints that he externalizes that identity in a way that Maguire and Garfield didn't (at least to my memory).



Briefly, he says: "come on, Peter", but it quickly becomes "come on, Spider-Man." In this moment, Holland is almost speaking as a fanboy putting his faith in the persona of the suit.

So... that's a long wind-up to my point. If/when Tom Holland meets other Peter Parkers, I'm not sure their personal lives and traits will really resonate with him (the way that meeting an alternate self would in so many of these kinds of stories).

I think it's less important that they're Peter Parker than it is that they're Spider-Man. Totally legitimate and respectable adaptations of the character in their own right. And that means something to Holland's Parker, I think. It touches on that creeping imposter syndrome that lurks in the background of his movies.

I wish I had a clever and succinct way to wrap that into a precise thesis, but I don't (yet). But maybe there's something in what I'm saying that (as you said) justifies doing a big retrospective mash-up.

Personally, I'd just add that I'd love to see Garfield's Peter confirmed as the Spider-Man of Venom's continuity, and to have him in the symbiote (and all dark and brooding in a way that Garfield can totally pull of, but Maguire can't). Aside from the continuity clean-up, I think it's a way to bring out the most of his Parker, to make him more distinct in the group, and even to utilize him in future Sony Villainverse properties. Yes, there's some burned bridges there, but if Foxx is on the table, then Garfield deserves a shot at redemption, too.