SPIDER-MAN 4: Rumored New Details On Tobey Maguire And Andrew Garfield, Tom Holland In VENOM 3, And More

SPIDER-MAN 4: Rumored New Details On Tobey Maguire And Andrew Garfield, Tom Holland In VENOM 3, And More

Some spectacular new Spider-Man 4 rumours are doing the rounds today, including insights on plans for Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield, Venom, and Tom Holland in Venom: The Last Dance. Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Oct 07, 2024 04:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man
Source: The Cosmic Circus

There's a lot of intrigue surrounding Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures' plans for Spider-Man 4, and The Cosmic Circus has shared a few interesting new tidbits today. 

The biggest relates to plans for Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's respective web-slingers. According to Alex Perez, "there is a very strong possibility they show up for an extended role this time around," meaning we could see a lot more of them in Spider-Man 4

As for Tom Holland's Peter Parker, "[he] will get the symbiote suit in the next few years and may keep it for the next couple of Spidey films." That makes sense with Avengers: Secret Wars fast approaching, though all signs point to him getting the alien costume when he crosses paths with Tom Hardy's Venom in his next solo outing.

However, despite a team-up being planned for the Spider-Man: No Way Home sequel, Perez confirms Holland doesn't appear in Venom: The Last Dance (including in any mid or post-credits scenes). 

He also claims that, "With each passing day, [Spider-Man 4] becomes more and more multiversal than street-level. At this point, I dare say it’s leaning slightly cosmic than street." With that, the door appears to have closed on a team-up with Daredevil. For now, at least. 

Answering other reader questions, Perez says Black Cat will not appear in the movie, reveals that Knull wields his All-Black sword despite what we saw in Thor: Love and Thunder, and that the Spider-Men and Venom will likely be battling "more symbiotes." 

It also sounds like Marvel Studios is "trying" to get Spider-Man a cameo in Daredevil: Born Again season 2, perhaps to set the stage for a non-Multiversal Spider-Man 5.

"I mean, I wouldn’t necessarily say that I’m the face of the universe," Holland told us in 2021 when we mentioned that Joe Russo said he thinks the actor's Spider-Man has taken over from Robert Downey Jr. and Iron Man as the 'soul' of the Marvel Universe. "What I know that fans are really supportive and have responded massively to this franchise. I’m honoured that Joe thinks that, but the beautiful thing about the MCU is whoever is the leader, if there ever is a leader again, you’re never alone."

"You have so many people that you can rely on and lean on and people I’ve now worked with for years and years," he continued. "I don’t necessarily feel those pressures, but should I feel those pressures, then yes, I’ll call Downey and ask him. I called him the other day for a piece of advice and he was very kind."

Destin Daniel Cretton will direct Spider-Man 4, while Spider-Man: No Way Home scribes Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers are returning to write the script. 

A release date for the movie has not been announced, though we expect it to swing into theaters on July 24, 2026.

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MrDandy
MrDandy - 10/7/2024, 4:54 PM
Part of what made No Way Home special was that they showed up and united the three of them that one time. You don’t need to do it again. If you want to bring them back again, do it in Secret Wars.

Give us a grounded street level adventure.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/7/2024, 5:04 PM
@MrDandy - exactly. Secret Wars is the perfect place to do it. No need to make a live-action Spider-Verse yet
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 10/7/2024, 4:54 PM
Really not a fan of this multiverse nonsense Marvel has been pushing this decade.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 10/7/2024, 4:55 PM
No way in hell would Sony be able to keep them out of the trailers if that Venom 3 part were true.
narrow290
narrow290 - 10/7/2024, 4:56 PM
Spider-Man has become a complete shit-show. thank you, Sony
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 10/7/2024, 4:56 PM
[frick]ing Sony. They’ve learned all the wrong lessons from NWH’s success. 🤦‍♂️
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/7/2024, 6:16 PM
@FireandBlood - exactly. And we'll be back here doing the same old post-mortem when it fails, pointing out that we all knew it was a bad idea from the start.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 10/8/2024, 5:51 AM
@ObserverIO - I would prefer if it was a street level story with Daredevil, but if it fails it won't be because of the multiverse aspect (NWH and Spider-Verse worked after all), it will be because the movie is bad.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/8/2024, 7:44 AM
@Urubrodi - There are more considerations than quality when talking about a movies success.

A Fat and Furious movie or a Michael Bay Transformers movie will always make more money than Terence Mallick movie for example. Even NWH wasn't that well written but was a huge success.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/8/2024, 7:49 AM
*Fast
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 10/8/2024, 7:58 AM
@ObserverIO - NWH was written well enough, doesn't even compare to your Michael Bay example. Plus, it sold a lot of tickets because of the multiverse aspect. Spider-Man is an IP that sells itself, so as long as you are making a decent/good movie, it'll make cash. The average movie goer won't be as concerned about the multiverse as some people here are. A lot of people will probably be even more interested in the movie knowing that Tobey and Andrew will be there again. Plus, Tom Hardy's Venom is quite popular with the general public.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/8/2024, 11:20 AM
@Urubrodi - But they already saw that movie and so might not be so inclined to care about seeing it again.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 10/8/2024, 11:41 AM
@ObserverIO - Maybe... but that is just some big assumption that the general public will be thinking like us here in CBM. They probably will have no idea that a street level story was ever on the table. Plus, this time Venom would be involved and a lot of people do like Hardy's take on the character. Some people are happy just having more of a good thing.
PC04
PC04 - 10/7/2024, 4:57 PM
ugh...god damnit
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 10/7/2024, 4:58 PM
Sounds like garbage. Would have made more sense for him to get the symbiote and forge a relationship with the FF. The FF was always Spideys closest allies but Marvel seems to have forgotten all that. He was even a member of the team. Reed was the one who discovered what the suit really was.
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 10/7/2024, 5:00 PM
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MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 10/7/2024, 6:10 PM
@MCUKnight11 - lol perfect gif and exactly how i feel
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 10/7/2024, 5:03 PM
As futile as it may be, I want to point out that this source is the same one that claimed Avengers 5 would be AvX when in actuality it turned out to be Doomsday.
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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/7/2024, 5:07 PM
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DanFlashesShirt
DanFlashesShirt - 10/7/2024, 6:25 PM
@MCUKnight11 - hawkeye endgamedon’t give me hope.gif

For real though i’m pretty sure half the time these guys just throw shit against the wall and see what sticks
Fares
Fares - 10/7/2024, 5:09 PM
Listen if I could remake No Way Home, I'd stuff it full with more Tobey and Andrew scenes. But we had what we had, and I loved it, and it was special, and to do it again, at least so soon, takes away from what makes it special. So don't do that.

You don't wanna give me my Daredevil street-level team-up? That's fine, but don't do No Way Home again.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/7/2024, 5:11 PM
@Fares - agreed.

I could understand bringing them back for Secret Wars since it’s the big multiversal crossover ending but makes no sense to bring them back so soon for this.
Fares
Fares - 10/7/2024, 5:19 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Yeah, but if there's any truth to this rumor, and if Spider-Man 4's release is close enough to Secret Wars, they may be using it partially as a vehicle for Secret Wars, which doesn't sit right with me.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/7/2024, 5:25 PM
@Fares - same.

I don’t mind them using the post credits scene for that but not the movie itself
sully
sully - 10/7/2024, 5:19 PM
Come on guys, at least they're not making the next Spider-Man movie a musical.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/7/2024, 5:38 PM
𝐖𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐡 𝐩𝐚𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐝𝐚𝐲, [𝐒𝐩𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐫-𝐌𝐚𝐧 𝟒] 𝐛𝐞𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐬 𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐦𝐮𝐥𝐭𝐢𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐚𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧 𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐞𝐭-𝐥𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐥“

If true then…

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Hollands Spidey teaming up with Hardy’s Venom to take on Knull sounds so uninteresting to me (mostly because I’m just not a fan of the SUMC’s take on the latter or his world).

I like Tobey & Andrew but there’s also no need for them to be in this , i wouldn’t mind them showing up in Secret Wars but that’s it.
Waifuslayer2
Waifuslayer2 - 10/7/2024, 5:42 PM
Oh a cosmic Spider-Man movie? Wow, thanks I'll definitely be slipping it now.
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HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 10/7/2024, 5:44 PM
Missing out on teaming Spider-Man with Daredevil as they take on a corrupt Mayor Fisk to do more cosmic crap is one of those avoidable mistakes that Marvel keeps making.

The MCU is dead. Maybe not quite as dead as Star Wars. Feige is awful and Woke, but he wasn't an untalented DEI hire like Kathleen Kennedy, but he keeps making awful DEI hires since Endgame that have ruined his brand.

They still have a chance to pull out of this spiral, unlike Star Wars which again, is dead, but Feige keeps making bad decisions.
hainesy
hainesy - 10/7/2024, 5:44 PM
No more past Spider-Men. No symbiote. Just make a good street level Spider-Man movie that is bout him, not Iron Man, not Dr. Strange, not Venom, and not other Spider-Men.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 10/7/2024, 5:47 PM
I just hope the next one is a smaller scale project with some buildup of Spidey eventually crossing over With Daredevil and Kingpin. You can even have Gargan be hired by Kingpin to take out Spider-Man who would jump at the opportunity given his grudge.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 10/7/2024, 5:49 PM
Any chance that all of this Knull rumor is bs?

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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/7/2024, 5:53 PM
I would be cool with it if Peter does get the symbiote that was left in NWH though at the end of 4…

Start that with Peter being Spidey 24/7 pretty much since he has no life now with increasing feelings of loneliness and anger due to his current situation but he’s still worried about letting others close to him after what happened last time so he avoids making connections but slowly begins to do with new characters throughout the movie.

You could have Mac Gargan escape Prison and go to Mexico , get the Venom Symbiote and have him come back to the city to get revenge on Spider Man.

In the final battle , he fights Gargan who perhaps dies or gets captured during which the Symbiote latches into Peter due to his negative emotions still being strong enough.

Have him at the symbiote in Doomsday & Secret Wars but maybe show here & there how it’s affecting him (I’m sure Victor looking like Tony would create some feelings for him)

We then go to 5 in which Peter now has the Symbiote and is behaving badly leading to the infamous removal church scene and then in 6 we get maybe this universes Green Goblin with the Harry & Norman story being built in the background of the previous 2.

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NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 10/7/2024, 6:04 PM
I don't want cosmic nor multiversal elements for Spidey now, I wanna see Spider-Slayers and The Jackal coming up with the clones for the Clone Saga.

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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/7/2024, 6:07 PM
@NinnesMBC - that could be a fun 3 film arc.

Hopefully it’s not as convoluted as the comics got
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 10/7/2024, 6:14 PM
@TheVisionary25 - They always pick what works and discard what doesn't, I trust their judgment in picking the right materials. Plus Feige admitted they like to use villains that haven't had their chance, so the Jackal fits.

And if not, it can't be that difficult to do a Spider-Slayers themed movie.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/7/2024, 6:20 PM
@NinnesMBC - agreed

Jackal especially could be fun!!.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 10/7/2024, 7:04 PM
@TheVisionary25 - We were robbed of seeing where the creatives of Spectacular Spider-Man were gonna do with the character so not exploring that in live-action while we still got Tom Holland would be a waste IMO.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 10/7/2024, 6:14 PM
should be a street level team up with DD against fisk and his henchmen... but NOPE. Sony gonna Sony and f*ck it up...

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mountainman
mountainman - 10/7/2024, 6:29 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - My obligatory “I agree with you 100%” response.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 10/7/2024, 7:26 PM
@mountainman - lol thanks bud. Just wish and hope that these reports aren't accurate
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