RUMOR: Marvel Studios Is Planning To Introduce MCU's Version Of Norman Osborn In SPIDER-MAN Franchise

RUMOR: Marvel Studios Is Planning To Introduce MCU's Version Of Norman Osborn In SPIDER-MAN Franchise

According to a wild new rumour, Marvel Studios has plans to introduce the MCU's Norman Osborn Variant in an upcoming Spider-Man movie. With that in mind, a Green Goblin rematch may be in the cards...

By JoshWilding - Jul 08, 2025 12:07 PM EST

Nearly two decades after first suiting up as the Green Goblin in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man, Willem Dafoe reprised perhaps his most iconic role when he starred in 2021's Spider-Man: No Way Home.

Transported to Earth-616 shortly before his death, Norman reminded fans why he's Spidey's greatest foe by murdering the wall-crawler's Aunt May and very nearly turning Peter Parker into a killer (he also stabbed Tobey Maguire's wall-crawler in the back for good measure).

Cured and sent back to his reality, we last saw the Oscorp CEO devastated by what he'd done. Did a sane Norman returning to his reality create a new, branched timeline, or does Peter #2's world now have heroic Variants of the Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, and Sandman? Honestly, the Multiverse of it all is a tad headache-inducing. 

Earlier this year, rumours surfaced suggesting that Dafoe might be in talks to play the Goblin again. Today, insider Daniel Richtman claims that Marvel Studios is "planning to introduce the MCU version of Norman Osborn."

He doesn't elaborate on whether that will be in Spider-Man: Brand New Day or a future instalment of the next trilogy. There's also no word on whether Dafoe really is set to return or if a new actor is being sought for the role. 

In Spider-Man: No Way Home, Norman claimed that he didn't exist on Peter's world, but he's also a psychopathic murderer who isn't necessarily inclined to tell the truth, so that's an easy retcon. 

We can only speculate about what Marvel Studios might have planned for Norman in the MCU, but there's always a chance his reach will be felt beyond the web-slinger's franchise. In the comics, the villain was appointed leader of the Thunderbolts, helped stop a Skrull invasion, and became Director of H.A.M.M.E.R. and leader of the Dark Avengers. 

Ultimately, a comic-accurate Green Goblin is probably the most exciting prospect, and Damian Lewis, for example, hasn't closed the door on possibly playing the villain.

Doing the rounds to promote Nosferatu last December, Dafoe was asked if he'd be down to continue Norman's story in the next Spider-Man movie. 

"We'll see. We'll see [Laughs]. I could come back," he teased. "Listen, Tom was great to work with and the whole series of Spider-Man films that I did were great fun. Great fun."

These remarks echo what Dafoe said in 2023. "If everything was right, sure," he said of a possible return. "I mean, that's a great role. I liked the fact that it's a double role both times. Twenty years ago, and fairly recently, both times [were] very different experiences, but I had a good time on both."

As always, let us know your thoughts on this rumour in the comments section below.

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CyberNigerian
CyberNigerian - 7/8/2025, 12:11 PM
He better have waves like the comic.

CyberNigerian
CyberNigerian - 7/8/2025, 12:12 PM
@CyberNigerian - There's only one way to cast him. IYKYK. ;)
Dafoe
Dafoe - 7/8/2025, 12:16 PM
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Slotherin
Slotherin - 7/8/2025, 5:44 PM
@Dafoe - Let's f'uckin go
PC04
PC04 - 7/8/2025, 12:11 PM
Dafoe is incredible but I think we need someone new to be Osborn in Tom Holland's Spidey world.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 7/9/2025, 6:11 AM
@PC04 - Totally agree. Dafoe is nearly 70. It's going to be difficult to have a 45 year old Harry being best buds with 20 yo Peter in College.
WalletsClosed
WalletsClosed - 7/8/2025, 12:13 PM
He's going to be black. Wouldn't be surprised if it's Colman Domingo
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/8/2025, 12:20 PM
If true then I’m certainly down for it since it has fun storytelling potential imo.

Given that Peter already has a history with a version of Norman , you could play into his and our preconceived notions about the character and have Peter be suspicious of him even if he is truly someone who is well intentioned even though his means may be dubious such as the YFNS version..

Speaking of which , having Colman Domingo who voices that character in that show play him in live action would be great imo!!.

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Also I’m pretty sure Dafoe’s Norman said that Oscorp didn’t exist in the MCU which doesn’t necessarily mean that he doesn’t but we’ll see…

Maybe some post SW shenanigans could help introduce him into the MCU if he isn’t in BND.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/8/2025, 12:23 PM
The perfect casting choice for Norman Osborn is Michael C Hall

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AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 7/8/2025, 12:30 PM
@Forthas - you beat me to it.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/8/2025, 12:34 PM
@AgentofSH1ELD - Sorry! Any ideas for Harry Osborn?
JFerguson
JFerguson - 7/8/2025, 1:01 PM
@Forthas - yeah Patrick Gibson

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TheLobster
TheLobster - 7/8/2025, 1:07 PM
@Forthas - strongly back this
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 7/9/2025, 5:58 AM
@Forthas - Any black or non white female would do.. :D
lol no. I never put much stock in Harry. We have not had a good iteration ever. Im not a fan of the Timothy Chalamet casting either... no bueno. Maybe Cameron Monaghan? I like that idea.
Harry Osborn= Cameron Monaghan
SethBullock
SethBullock - 7/8/2025, 12:25 PM
They should have done this before all the multiverse stuff in NWH.

You introduce the MCU versions of certain popular characters first (Osborn, Octopus, Wolverine, Xavier, Reed, etc) and bring the vintage variants later for crossovers in Secret Wars movies or anywhere else.
mountainman
mountainman - 7/8/2025, 12:31 PM
@SethBullock - Now that they’ve brought classic actors version of characters into the MCU proper, there will be even more of a comparison with the new actors. It’s risky for sure. But Disney is looking at salvaging their struggling multiverse saga and using nostalgia has been the most effective way for them to do so.

Top earning post Endgame movies all featured big roles or cameos from classic actors:
- No Way Home
- D&W
- Dr Strange 2

We can all complain about the member berries and nostalgia baiting, but box office results don’t lie.
SethBullock
SethBullock - 7/8/2025, 12:57 PM
@mountainman - Maybe with the MCU proper versions of those same characters and with some good castings and some good writing they could have got similar box office results and the whole MCU would be in a much better situation, because right now with so many bad decisions post-Endgame for me the MCU is basically dead/ruined, when up until Endgame even with a few not so great films I was really liking most of what they were doing and they were getting hit after hit after hit.

And they could have still saved some of the nostalgia bait for the Secret Wars movies, now I honestly don't know if they'll get the numbers they'll probably need to save this franchise, the Robert Doomey Jr thing is the dumbest sh*t ever that ruins a character that will probably be the most important on those movies and they'll make another huge mistake bringing all the Fox-Men back before introducing the proper MCU versions, and I think lots of people are getting tired of that, specially when the writing is so poor and so many choices they make are so dumb.
mountainman
mountainman - 7/8/2025, 1:49 PM
@SethBullock - People for the most part enjoyed the Fox X-Men actors. It was the writing and lack of comic accuracy they didn’t like. If we have D&W to go off of, they should be giving the other X-Men a more comic accurate revamp for Doomsday and Secret Wars.

Imagine if we get Alan Cumming - who is largely seen in a positive light as Nightcrawler - in the comic outfit with swords and such? People will love it! Or Halle Barry in the Storm comic suit finally being a badass? Or James Marsden in a comic Cyclops suit actually being cool for the first time. People will largely really enjoy these interpretations. Then they are going to go and reboot the X-Men, and they had better hope the casting and the interpretation are going to be as universally loved.
SethBullock
SethBullock - 7/8/2025, 4:39 PM
@mountainman - I don't have a problem with the Fox-Men, except for a few movies that suck and that the franchise was a mess overall, which is something that is also happening to the MCU now, but I watched the first two movies when they were released in theaters over a couple of decades ago and I loved them, same thing for the old Spidey or Blade movies, I own all of them on DVD/Bluray, so it's not that I dislike those versions of the characters.

What I don't like is bringing back those versions of the characters as nostalgia bait just for money before introducing the proper MCU versions of these characters that are so important for Marvel.

They should have introduced a new Osborn, a new Octopus, a new Wolverine, a new Xavier, a new X-Men team, a new Blade, etc, before bringing back the old versions as variants in a Secret Wars movie or anywhere else.

Now most people will just want to keep seeing Jackman as Wolverine instead of a new guy, and same thing for many of these characters.

Plus it makes absolutely no sense to bring back the old versions before introducing the new ones, the only reason to do it is desperation to make money (same reason to cast RDJ as Doom, which is lame) and being unsure about being able to get a successful new version of all of these characters.

It's also a question of laziness, because it's just easier to make sure that you make a lot of money bringing Maguire, Snipes or Jackman back than to make new movies with new versions of their characters which are as liked as the old ones.

But they did it with Spider-Man, they didn't bring Maguire back to join the Avengers in Civil War before introducing a new Spidey a few years later, why couldn't they just do the same thing with the X-Men, Blade, Osborn, etc...

After a time travel movie like Endgame, it made perfect sense to introduce Kang, and they could have used his connection to the Fantastic Four to introduce the new version of these characters and explain somehow why they didn't appear before in the MCU.

Kang sent them to the negative zone and made everybody forget about them or whatever, but they come back to stop him.

At the same time you start introducing the concept of mutants, they have always been there but hidden, the X-Men have been a thing for a while but they stayed out of the public eye because people didn't like mutants, or Xavier just used his powers enhanced by Cerebro to make everybody forget about them, there were a billion ways to introduce them without the need of reboots or overcomplicated multiversal sh*t.

Once you had the FF back with a proper Doom not played by Tony Stark, and you also had a new X-Men team and a new Blade, etc, and once Holland's Spidey had a new Osborn and a new Octopus even if they were not necessarily the main villains in the new movies yet, maybe then you introduce the concept of variants in the multiverse and explain that Maguire, Garfield, Dafoe, Snipes, Jackman, Stewart, etc, are variants from other timelines/universes and you use them in a Secret Wars phase of movies as nostalgia bait to make even more and more billions.

Maybe then you also introduce the Illuminati and use the same actor for Reed that played the role in the FF movie, instead of using Krasinski when the next Reed that will appear in the first MCU's FF movie will look like a completely different person.

I think Marvel Studios had an easy path to continue with the most successful movie franchise of all time for a few more decades, they just needed to make the right obvious choices, not necessarily the same way I'd do it, but in a way that made sense, and with good writers and directors, but they decided to do a lot of stupid sh*t instead, and some movies have made a lot of money with the nostalgia bait, but at the same time they ruined their own business with dumb cr@p and bad movies and TV shows.

It just feels like stupid self-sabotage, I just can't help wondering how Feige couldn't realize how many wrong decisions he was making when he had the most obvious way to keep his money making machine working for at least a couple of extra decades after Endgame, and they could have fully rebooted everything in, idk, 2040 or 2050 or something like that, when everybody was just too old, even the actors currently playing the youngest characters.

However now they have all this multiversal mess that I doubt that the average non geek/nerd people will understand.

They will see "Doom", a character with zero appearances in the MCU so far and that will not even be properly introduced in the FF movie as that version of Reed's nemesis, with RDJ's/Tony Stark's face/voice and they will think: "Wtf is this sh*t".

And they'll see a new Wolverine and will think: "Where is my 80 years old fully roided Jackman", or "Who is this new Osborn guy that looks nothing like the ugly mf who killed Aunt May in one of the dumbest MCU moments", or "Why this moustache Reed looks nothing like the Reed I saw in DS2 just a few years ago", or "Why is this new Blade not the Snipes guy from the old movies that I recently saw again in D&W", etc...
mountainman
mountainman - 7/8/2025, 5:54 PM
@SethBullock - I’m not saying I support the constant nostalgia inclusions, I’m just pointing out that it seems that it does well with the GA. Probably the same phenomenon of why sequels and live action adaptations tend to do well. Average movie goers may just want familiar things. I don’t know.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 7/8/2025, 6:01 PM
@mountainman - as you've pointed out, some of the most successful of the multiverse movies have casting and referencing from Fox-Marvel, (others do as well) so it makes sense to me to hold off on recasts and instead reward the things we never got out of those franchises with what worked (actors who were well cast but not used to their full potential like Cummings, Marsden, and Barry).
It's smart to hold off recasting, if they aren't just going to re-use
MisterBones
MisterBones - 7/8/2025, 12:30 PM
Even in death Harry's waves stayed intact...
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LebaneseSpidey1
LebaneseSpidey1 - 7/8/2025, 12:31 PM
Good god these ppl never learn their lesson…
We Spidey Fans deserve new Villains. Spidey has with Batman and Supes the most cool Rogues Gallery of all time. Even the B list or C List ones you can elevate to A Level.
We have:
- Hobgoblin
- Hammerhead
- Beetle
- Rhino(this very short appearance in ASM2 doesn’t count)
- Speed Demon
- Carnage
- Shocker
- Scorpion
- Kraven
- Hydroman(the real one not this pathetic version from FFH)
- Mr.Negative
- Tombstone
- Puma
- The Enforcers
- Big Wheel & Rocket Racer
- Jack O Lantern
- Chameleon
- Tinkerer(appeared only once in Homecoming)
- The Spot(Only seen in animated stuff not L.A.)
- Molten Man(the real one not this elemental garbage from FFH)
- Silver Sable
- Silvermane
- Alistair Smythe & Spiderslayers
- Swarm
- White Rabbit
- Rose & Kingpin(only in DD stuff right now)
- Overdrive
- Cardiac
- Grizzly
- Cangaroo
- Will o Wisp
- Screwball
- Shriek(with Carnage of course)
- Ringer
- Vermin
- Sin Eater
- Massacre
- Red Vulture
- Mirage
- Mindworm
- Scorcher
- Hitman
- Answer
- Typeface
- Gibbon
- Arcade
- Nitro
LebaneseSpidey1
LebaneseSpidey1 - 7/8/2025, 12:33 PM
@LebaneseSpidey1 -
If you ask me it’s time for Michael Mandos Scorpion and a REAL GROUNDED MOVIE ala Spider-Man 2.
Tom Holland deserves a REAL SPIDER-MAN FEELING like movie. But this won’t happen sadly…
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TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 7/8/2025, 12:42 PM
@LebaneseSpidey1 - Outside No Way Home, every Spider-Man movie has introduced at least one new villain, with the next movie likely set to follow that trend. Superman is the one who has it really rough, as no one besides Lex and Zod have made it to the big screen, despite Superman being on his 7th movie right now.
LebaneseSpidey1
LebaneseSpidey1 - 7/8/2025, 12:46 PM
@TheJok3r -
Exactly 🙂👍
JFerguson
JFerguson - 7/8/2025, 1:05 PM
@LebaneseSpidey1 - i agree with you. It should absolutely be Scorpion vs spider man for this next one.

And let them fight in the snow of course.
🕷️🦂❄️💪
LebaneseSpidey1
LebaneseSpidey1 - 7/8/2025, 1:10 PM
@JFerguson -
Hey I also love snow settings!!! Cool 😎
LebaneseSpidey1
LebaneseSpidey1 - 7/8/2025, 1:24 PM
@JFerguson - thats cool.
I also love Invincible Artist draw Scorpion this looks cool 🦂.
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 7/8/2025, 12:52 PM
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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/8/2025, 12:58 PM
@MCUKnight11 - as much as I like McConaughey as an actor , not sure if I want a Norman with a Texas Twang lol
DannyBrandy20
DannyBrandy20 - 7/8/2025, 12:56 PM
I want to see Black Tarantula in live action

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JFerguson
JFerguson - 7/8/2025, 1:11 PM
@DannyBrandy20 - I want to see scorpion fight spiderman in the snow in live action
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/8/2025, 12:59 PM
Do it after the reboot and please stop making bad decisions it's killing you.
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