Dunst Dumped for Spider-Man 4 & 5

Well, as explained in interviews when the first spiderman movie came out, this is a whole new universe, so Gwen is pretty much alive and kicking, besides, i think that Bryce Dallas Howard was PERFECT for the role of Gwen.

as for Kraven. i don't think he should be in here, i mean, the whole witch doctor potion thing wouldn't work very well. and as for writing around it and explaining his powers another way would kind of be like Ang Lee's Hulk...it's him....but at the same time...not.

I do think it would be cool to have Electro in it, but forget the green and yellow spandex suit. Have him more like in the ultimates. No hair (since the elctricity would singe it off anyway), and in plain clothes and the more he gets pissed, the more he turns into a walking, talking, living lightning bolt.

Lizard is also going to be one of those awesome tragedy type things. Somehow Doc Connors is gonna find out how to use lizard regeneration cells to help his arm grow (i'm speculating that it'll be with the help of the symbiote he still has, but i dunno), the experiment goes awry, and VIOLA!...a giant lizard man. It's kind of like a werewolf. No recollection of anything he does, but he knows he turns...and he knows he does bad things. IT'S GONNA BE AWESOME!!!

And i'd get pissed if they recast Doc Connors, i certainly hope they don't. he's awesome!


(sorry if i wrote too much, i'm just excited now that Dunst is probably out of the picture)

Where in that interview did he say he did not want Kirsten back. He said HE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HER BACK AND THAT SHES IMPORTANT> I'm sick and tired of you bashing Kirsten Dunst. She is an amazing MJ and is a great actresses. She is also pretty. I bet you think Megan Fox was awesome in transformers. i really want to see a picture of you.


So NO SHE HAS NOT BEEN DUMPED!!!


Go MJ and Kirsten YOU ROCK!!!!!!!

So, none of the CBM guys thought Kirsten Dunst was right for the part of Mary-Jane, eh? Well its just as well that the CBM opinion counts for squat then isn't it. She is easily in the top 3 actresses of her generation, hot as hell and is cast perfectly opposite Toby Macguire.

The whole supermodel angle on MJ in the comics was pretty stupid anyway. Peter is a grade-a geek and not the usual type supermodels go for. The girl-next-door MJ works a whole lot better.

Bryce Dallas Howard is a good actress in her own right but her & Toby don't look right together as an item. Toby & Kirsten do.

As for comparing Spider-Man 3 to Batman & Robin - Spider-Man 3 is a great film. Not good - Great! It has an uneven tone towards the end that lets it down, with Peter dancing etc. I've watched it 4 times & i like it even more with each viewing. All the Spider-Man movies are better than any Batman movie, even the depressing Dark Knight that everyone is wetting themselves over.

As for Spidey 4 & 5 bad guys, Lizard, Electro, Rhino.

My bet is that Green Goblin (The original) will be back from the grave in one of the next 2 movies as the main bad guy as happened in the comics.

P.S. Please not Kraven. He sucked in the comics.

Wow, I didn't realize she was so disliked. I thought she was pretty good, and besides, if it WAS someone who was supermodel hot, I think that would require TOO much suspension of disbelief that she would be with Tobey Maguire...I am scared that this franchise HAS run it's course, I mean...are they gonna just keep launching superbaddies at Spidey to fight? And without the girl who was SUPPOSED to be his wife, where else can it go?

I haven't done any posts here for over a year now due to some hostillity and disrespect within these boards but I felt compelled to do this post. How dare you say Kirsten is not hot? She is beautiful and talented more so than Bryce Dallas Howard. You don't see her as a beautiful woman, something's wrong with your manhood. Tell me, have any of you dated any supermodels? I don't think so. With your type, you can only take what's available and make due just like the rest of us. As much as I'm a Kirsten fan, I think she should retire the MJ role as should Tobey with Spidey. This movie would pretty much be "What if we saw Spider-Man and Mary Jane aged right before our eyes?" as if Spidey 3 hasn't made things any more depolorable. Sam Raimi dropped the ball and shouldn't be allowed to touch the Spider-Franchise any more. Screw all you Kirsten haters. You have no damn taste.

I think they need to have Mj in the 4th movie. but maybe have something happen to her to write her out , wasn't there a time where Peter thought she was dead? I'd like to see them go down the Betty Brant path for the love interest. I hated the way they went with the third movie the third movie should have had 1 villian and ended the movie with him losing the, the the forth could have been Venom, to bad tho. What about Mysterio? it would be interesting to see spiderman struggling with trusting his senses, believing his Spidey Senses or his vision. I just hope they don't force a second villian into the movie unless it actually makes sense.

Dunst wasnt that great. Her acting sucks, it seems like she tries WAY to hard to be emotional.

They should just quit making these movies so that in a few years they can just start over and do a better job at telling spidey's story

This is crazy to discuss. There should be NO question to whether Mary Jane Watson, played only by Kirsten Dunst, should be in the next Spider-Man movies. If Tobey is in, Kirsten should be in as well. PERIOD. Those two actors made the Spider-Man franchise what it is today. Doesn't everybody remember the first teaser trailer for Spider-Man 2? The first thing you saw was Mary Jane asking "Do you love me?" And then the split second that you saw Tobey as Peter Parker you instantly knew it was time for the next Spider-Man movie. The two of them have made the roles of Peter and MJ iconic. Nobody should replace one of them if one is already on board. It should be either they are both in or they are both out. Sure, things ended on a weird note for Peter and MJ and that is all the more reason why they both should come back to resolve the issues. They are still in love and have had a setback. We all need to see them make up and get back together and see how their relationship will work. For those of you that don't think their relationship is important, just look back at the first 3 films: it was the staple the movies were built on. To pursue a story in the direction of Gwen Stacey would be to lose the impact of a good story and have to try to make up for it somewhere else like in adding too many special effects. Everyone can name a dozen movies that had awesome special effects and were duds because they didn't have a good story. I think if Sony and Marvel want to make GOOD Spider-Man 4 and 5 movies, they need to continue where 3 left off and go from there. And then, because 4 and 5 will likely be all that can be done with Maguire, Dunst and Raimi, after that they can reinvent the Spider-Man movies in any way they want to. But if it's going to continue after 3, there needs to be the one person who Peter has always loved to bring him back around and that is MJ. I hope that important people in Sony read this. I also hope that fans out there would try and pull for a good movie plot instead of eye candy that has no center. Raimi did not say that Dunst was out, and I don't want the ones who are making the movie to get any bad ideas like that us, the fans, want her out also. I want more Spider-Man movies, but I want them to be good. So far, they've been pretty darn good. There was a little weirdness in 3 (even though for the most part it was still great), but let's move on and move forward and pick it back up just like where 1 and 2 and anticipation of 3 had us enthralled. And I want the villains to make good sense with the story lines too. :)

Dunst sucks, and Maguire sucks. Spider-Man 3 was like sex without the orgasm. the lizard or Electro would make good bad guys on screen but really this series is tired. Its like a good old hunting dog that can't even get off the porch anymore, maybe we should take it out behind the barn and shoot it. That would leave room for a reboot of the franchise.

KIRSTEN DUNST IS HOT!

Never liked Dunst, so no worries about her axing. As for villian/s, I'd go with The Lizard, being that Doc Connors has already been in the previous films they can free up screentime but cutting his "origin". Perhaps bringing kraven the hunter in the mix to "hunt" lizard, only once aprehended his attention turns to Spidey.

A) I would rather have Toby retire over Kirsten
B) Kirsten retiring is still good anyway
C) wouldn't mind Gwen establishing her relationship but expect to see her "fall" within the next couple of films.
D) even without Kirsten I still expect to see MJ as I think she is the second strongest supporting character in Spidey history(after Aunt May stepped up her game) and is a driving force behind many of Peter's actions. Taking her out of the equation means this might as well be One More Day. I don'f feel like watching Peter sell anything to the Devil on the big screen now or any time. She's strongest as Peter's wife and even if that takes until SM6 it will be worth it.
E) MJ's character development is deeply affected by Gwen's death. Everything between Peter and these two girls are purposeful and intricately connected.
F)As I am a fan of musicals, and sense an apparent phobia for it here, I'm not about to knock something I haven't seen and have next to no information on. I remember Universal theme park's Spider-Man Rocks and thought it rocked, but that one didn't have any original music.

H) and finally, Chameleon/Mysterio combo for 4 with lead into Lizard for the 5th. But it's Kraven's girlfriend, Calypso that actually has a fetish for treating Lizard as a Pet. Chameleon and Mysterio create a strong psychological plot with a look into what's real, what he want's to be real, his worst fears, and identity crisis. While Chameleon makes it the rare handful of villains that managed to discover Peter's identity on his own and get so close as to pay aunt May a visit as Peter and scare Peter into thinking he kidnapped MJ. Also, as a character the scars of his own psyche run deep. He's a great way to introduce Kraven in SM5. They are half brothers but he supressed the memories of child abuse from his older bro, so much that he has hidden his own true identity from himself. Mysterio manages to trick and even manipulate Spider-Sense aand masqueraded as a psychiatrist while managing to nearly trick Peter into believing himself insane!

And to Tonic24k, SM shouldn't have love plots? It's what SM is famous for. No other hero has such an iconic history of tangled relationships, half the driving plots of Peter's history are relationship-cored. Peter proposed to MJ three times before she accepted. The second time she flitted away to LA. It's part of her character. Her initial reaction to fearful and gravitous decisions is to run. This flaw in her personality is subdued the closer she becomes with Peter.

GWEN IS SUPER FINE IN SPIDEY 3!!!!!!!!!!

I KNOW HUH????
GWEN IS FINE........................

PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE make a picture with just the one on the left with her front side!!!!!!!!!!!