What would James Cameron's 'Spider-Man' have been like?

What would James Cameron's 'Spider-Man' have been like?

Another side of Spider-man we're not use to... Including sex in public..sorta.

By ArmouredAvenger - Dec 24, 2009 02:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man
Source: /Film

Rebecca Keegan’s book, The Futurist: The Life and Films of James Cameron, was recently released to coincide with the release of James Cameron’s Avatar

Hardcore James Cameron fans will probably recall that Cameron was once attached to write/direct a film adaptation of Spider-Man. The story behind the project’s rise and fill is still fascinating, and gives some insight into Cameron. Keegan writes:

After True Lies, Cameron’s next project could have been based on a character he’d been dreaming about since he was a 9th grader in Chippawa— Spider-Man. He had lobbied Carolco, the independent studio behind T2, to purchase the rights to the Spider-Man comics, which they did in 1990. Carolco’s executives had a habit of seat-of-the pants deal-making that endeared the company to Cameron, who had made his $100 million Terminator sequel with them based on terms laid out in a simple half-page memo. But in this instance, a hasty contract would come back to haunt all the parties involved. Cameron wrote a Spider-Man scriptment for Carolco that was widely admired in Hollywood. The comic’s creator, Stan Lee, adored it and gave a Cameron-directed Spider-Man movie his hearty endorsement. “It was the Spider-Man we all know and love,” Lee said of the treatment. “Yet it all somehow seemed fresh and new.”

He opted to make his Spider-Man movie an origins story, explaining how Peter Parker developed his web-slinging powers. But he made some thoughtful changes to the iconic character, starting with the Spider-Man’s wrist shooters. Lee’s comic called for Peter Parker to build them himself, but Cameron thought a biological explanation was more plausible. “I had this problem that Peter Parker, boy genius, goes home and creates these wrist shooters that the DARPA labs would be happy to have created on a 20-year program,” says Cameron. “I said, wait a minute, he’s been bitten by a radioactive spider, it should change him fundamentally in a way that he can’t go back.” In Cameron’s treatment, the wrist shooters simply grow as Peter becomes spider-like…

Cameron also updated the comics’ super-villain Electro for the information age in a character he called Carlton Strand. Electro was a robot that functioned on pure electric power, while Cameron’s Strand could touch a computer or a cable and absorb the data flowing through it—an acknowledgement that information itself is real power. Cameron’s scriptment is darker and more adult than anyone expected from a comic-book movie in the 1990s—Peter Parker says “mother[frick]er” and Spider-Man and Mary-Jane have sex atop the Brooklyn Bridge. Adult-oriented comic-book adaptations like Dark Knight and 300 found huge audiences more than a decade later, but Cameron’s writing was a dramatic departure from the accepted wisdom about the genre at the time, namely that it should be nearly as family-friendly as a Disney movie. It would have been fascinating to see what the creator of the rough-edged characters of the Terminator franchise did with the adolescent superhero. But the James Cameron version of Spider-Man never happened, because Hollywood’s real idea of super villains descended—lawyers. When Carolco filed for Chapter 11 in 1995, it became clear the company’s claim to the Spider-Man rights had been tenuous all along.

“Here I am working on Spider-Man and it turns out that there’s a lien against the rights and Sony’s got a piece of it and Carolco doesn’t really own it even though they think they own it,” Cameron says. With Carolco down, Cameron tried to get Fox to go after Spider-Man. The studio would have been happy to buy their top-earning director his pet project if it had just been a matter of rights, but procuring Spider-Man now meant entering a nasty legal fight and potentially a bidding war involving multiple other studios and producers with overlapping claims on the project dating back to when Marvel had first put the film rights up for sale in 1985. “They’re so risk-averse,” Cameron says. “For a couple hundred thousand dollars in legal fees they could have had a $2 billion franchise. They blew it.”


By the time Sony emerged with the rights, Cameron had already moved on to another endeavor: Titanic. But those who have seen Spider-Man know that several elements of Cameron’s version made it into Raimi’s take on the web-slinger. Specifically, the organic web-shooters, conceived by Cameron, played prominently in the final film. When asked why he didn’t get a writing credit on the film, Cameron responded: “I’d say that wasn’t terribly polite of them.” Nonetheless, Cameron doesn’t harbor any ill will against anyone for the whole ordeal.

Unlike other Spider-Man writers who waged unsuccessful battles via the WGA over their contributions, Cameron never put up a fight for his name to appear on the film. Thanks to Titanic, he was a very wealthy man who could afford to forgo the potential residuals.”I didn’t feel that injured…slighted, but not injured,” he said.

Cameron's Spider-Man script

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thwhtGuardian
thwhtGuardian - 12/24/2009, 3:16 PM
I've read his treatment, the script has been around online for ages...and it was just plain bad. The worst raping of the super hero genre ever, we really dodged the bullet on this one. Well maybe not the worst, but still not the spiderman I know and love. I believe there was a line about spiderman wanting to decorate his christmas tree with the intestines of one of the punks he was fighting...I mean spider man being menacing? He's the friendly neighborhood spiderman. Really makes you appreciate Rami.
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 12/24/2009, 3:26 PM
WOW
flames809
flames809 - 12/24/2009, 4:02 PM
WOW AGAIN
Loganace
Loganace - 12/25/2009, 5:44 AM
@MovieTheaterLad

Where are those pages from? they look pretty cool
thwhtGuardian
thwhtGuardian - 12/25/2009, 11:14 AM
MovieTheaterLad that's hardly typical spiderman behavior. Where's that costume from anyway, remind's me of ross' movie idea
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 12/25/2009, 4:38 PM
@ anil

in all fairness, sabretooth and wolvie weren't strangers in X1, they just didn't remember each other, and victor MIGHT have remembered wolvie, he just never said he did.

but i don't think he butchered it. it was different, but it was still good. i'll also be the first to admit that if marvel got the rights back for xmen, it would be a million times better, though. but as far as CBM's go, i think X1 and X2 were better than most. they were different, but they made sense.
comicbookjerk
comicbookjerk - 12/25/2009, 6:13 PM
MovieTheaterLad !!!!!!!

What version of Spider-Man Is That thats freacking sweet i want to read it!!!!!

PS. I think James Cameron Would Have made an Awsome Spiderman
thwhtGuardian
thwhtGuardian - 12/25/2009, 7:17 PM
read the script aaron...james cameron, spiderman and awesome do not belong in the same sentence.

oh yeah, and I discovered where that awesome picture comes from; it's from What if? Wolverine vs. Spider man.

Basically it's an out of continuity sequel to the team up from '87. In this alternate reality, Spidey and Logan never leave mother Russia and instead become KGB assassins...hence Spider-Man's uncharacteristically brutal behavior in the pictures above. It's a pretty sweet read...I um, read it ::ahem:: illegally. If you guys want the link I can give it to you.

thwhtGuardian
thwhtGuardian - 12/25/2009, 8:49 PM
why mess with who's the green goblin though? I like the idea of the criminal element but over all it sounds to much like the plot of that spectacular Spider-Man cartoon series.
Ryden
Ryden - 12/25/2009, 9:37 PM
@chris mclellan- Guy Ritchie wouldn't make a good Spidey film. It's not his style. Also (asthewhtGuardian said) it sounds a lot like the spectacular spider-man series. Also your ideas can't be more faithful if Green Goblin is not Norman Osborn. They are good ideas though. :P
RockNRollCC
RockNRollCC - 12/27/2009, 1:05 AM
lol, @movieTheaterLad without reading anything (just skimming down the page) i thaught that was deadpool at 1st. thn i went bac and read it.

@guardian definately. tht be kinda strange spidey having public sex on a bridge. thats just not the spidey we know. the REAl spidey does it in his aunt's bedroom, with the windows and door shut tight, with a condom XD

if cameron wants any uv that stuff, he can direct deadpool, but id still want Tarantino, cuz that still has to have comedy + decent gore (kept @ pg 13, mabye 2 films later, give it an R)
RadBracket
RadBracket - 12/27/2009, 8:46 AM
This script seems like the kind of overly macho, 90's era bullshit that almost destroyed comics. Back then everyone was trying so hard to prove that comics weren't for kids that they just started to inject tons of juvinial violence and smut.
Thank god people like Alex Ross and Mark Waid came along and fixed all that, otherwise we might not all be here.
Aiiwolf
Aiiwolf - 12/27/2009, 11:16 PM
@ RadBracket

(ahem) ....and Frank Millerrr. lol He saved Batman. :)


@ Anyone

I think Spiderman is one of the most over-rated superheroes next to wolverine. Except wolverine is a whiny BITCH half the time spiderman is....and can get the same amount of girls. I dont like what the writers have done to spiderman, period.

I always though James Franco could of been a great Peter Parker....especially, since he looks like peter parker from the 90s comics and 90s tv show.



CRITIC17
CRITIC17 - 12/28/2009, 12:36 PM
I nominate Chris to write the Spider-Man films!!!!
Comickid65
Comickid65 - 12/28/2009, 2:30 PM
Chris McLellan

ya i totally agree with you. i dont know why these directors have to change up everything. I liked what zack snyder did with watchmen because it was just like the book. but ya if I were to direct a spidey film, it would be a reboot with a way better cast. Id have someone who actually looks and acts like peter parker. Tobey maguire sucks.
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