Editorial: Suicide Squad And The Continued Divide Between Fans And Critics

Editorial: Suicide Squad And The Continued Divide Between Fans And Critics

Suicide Squad seems be about to divide critics and fans once more. Forget which side is right and let's start thinking about what is causing this divide in the first place.

Editorial Opinion
By BeyondtheFuture - Aug 05, 2016 10:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Suicide Squad

Before we get started, let's get a few thing things out of the way. First, I am an unappologetic fan of the MCU, the DCU and The Fox Universe. To me, they all have their strengths and yes, some weaknesses. I think, away from this website, most comic book film fans feel this way. While they certainly have their favourites, I am sure there is an overlap between the fans of these franchises. 

A couple of days ago, I stupidly waited for the critic reviews of Suicide Squad to start flooding out. I had the misguided impression that this film could be a slam dunk for Warner Bros. I have now decided to never look at the reviews again before seeing one of these films. Rather than fully enjoying the film, I spent the first twenty minutes trying to disect what on earth critics could have hated so much. I think I have the answer to this question and I believe I know some of the reasons why this film, like BVS has faced such harsh reviews. While neither are perfect, in my opinion, they do not deserve the reception they have received. At least, from professional film critics. 

I am happy to say that by the bar scene Suicide Squad had completely won me over. Does it have it's flaws? Sure, but every film does and we must not forget, films are works of art. Art is always going to be a matter of perspective. Looking at a painting on a wall, you might see a few squiggly lines with blotches of colour. Another person could see a masterpiece. 

On viewing Suicide Squad, many critics clearly viewed it as a jumbled, dull, mess. Or at the very least, wasted potential. I, and I'm sure many others saw it as a love letter to fans. I think, just by thinking about once scene in particular, this is the perfect way to describe Suicide Squad. Like it or not guys, this film was made for us. You can love it, you can hate, you can be completely indifferent. That is entirely your choice, yet the intention was most certainly there. 

It would be great if we could just end it there. Critics have their opinion, fans have theirs and the fairly cliche, "we're all different." Unfortunately, I do think there are other factors at play here. You can agree or disagree, this is purely my opinion. Here we go then. 

"A New Paris Hilton"


Every so often, the media does choose something or someone to rip to pieces. In some cases, it could be argued they deserve or ask for it. In other cases, it just happens naturally. However, there is no doubt that it does occur. I do think that to an extent, this is what is happening with the DCU. Critics are taking far too much glee in tearing these films apart. These aren't the only films where this has occurred. Ghostbusters took a similar thrashing from fewer critics. Interestingly, these critics were attacked on social media and told their reviews were unfair. So you see, there's crazy fans all over the place for every franchise. 

More Of The Same Or Something Different


Psychologically, we love to fit things into boxes. Critics have decided the box for comicbook movies has the label funny and lighthearted. We haven't quite reached the point where they expect slapstick but they do want belly laughs. Marvel provides that and the two other comic book movie producers don't. Love, like or hate BVS or SS, I think we can agree neither sent people into ruptions of laughter. Since Suicide Squad doesn't fit this category, it was never going to be accepted. We are past the days when comic book movies can be dark and brooding. It will be interesting to see if the solo Batman movie is accepted when it undoubtably has these traits. 

Expectations And Pressure 


No Doubt the pressure and expectations on these films didn't help matters. SS has been trending for nearly a year and was easily the most highly anticipated movie. Some would suggest it was awaited more eagerly than Civil War and that's incredible. Thus, anything other than a master piece was always going to be criticised. Many people thought after BVS Warner Bros desperately needed a win. Whether you or I personally felt that way doesn't matter. The context was already there behind this movie. When it didn't deliver to the extent they wanted it to, the pitchforks were out. 

There we have it. These are the reasons why I personally think there is this divide between fans and critics. Now, you can say that divide simply doesn't exist and fans were dissapointed with this movie too. I'm sure for at least one of the reasons I have mentioned, this is true. However, I can tell you after attending the midnight screening, plenty of fans adored it. I am not convinced all of these people were hardcore fanboys either. There was a wide range of different people there and a massive demographic. 

I also think it's interesting to explore the psyche of these 'fanboys' that are reacting to the reviews. The best way to analyse this is to think about the movie company like a sports team. These fans want their team to succeed and I share that desire. I want all of these comic book movie companies to succeed. As kevin Smith said, let them make all of them. Good, bad, great, okay. Let's make all these films and then all the fans can win. 

As I said, I've chosen to ignore critic reviews from now on. It is clear their perception of these films is completely different to my own. I encourage any fans who haven't seen this film yet to do the same. Watch it for yourself and if you love it, great. If not, we still have Dr Strange to look forward and the new movies in 2017. 

Love or hate Suicide Squad, it doesn't matter. We still get Justice League and everything else DC, Marvel and Fox have in store for us for in the years to come.

 

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DCypherD
DCypherD - 8/5/2016, 11:43 AM
logic, awesome! Good write up.
BeyondtheFuture
BeyondtheFuture - 8/5/2016, 11:55 AM
@DCypherD - haha thanks mate :)
Kyos
Kyos - 8/5/2016, 1:35 PM
We are past the days when comic book movies can be dark and brooding.

Complete nonsense, imo.
BeyondtheFuture
BeyondtheFuture - 8/5/2016, 1:44 PM
@Kyos - Fair enough i respect your opinion. I just meant in the eyes of critics. Even Dredd I notice received a lot of praise for humour and satire. If you check out the overview on rotten tomatoes you'll see what i mean. As I said, it will be interesting to see what critics think of the future Batman solo film. I don't think that's going to be high on humour and light heartedness judging by Ben Affleck's previous films.
gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 8/5/2016, 3:59 PM
@BeyondtheFuture - I think the problem is that some of these superhero movies are trying to be dark and brooding. This is not what made Nolan's Bat films so beloved, it was that they were gritty. It felt viseral and real even at it's most ridiculous concepts (ninja temples, super nukes, etc.)

It's about the characters acting like real people and interacting with the world in a believable way. Showing real consequence, cause and effect.
comiccow6
comiccow6 - 8/6/2016, 12:09 PM
@gamecreatorjj - Even going back and rewatching Nolan's films, they're actually really funny. Alfred, Joker, Bruce, Gordon, they all get moments of levity.
gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 8/6/2016, 12:21 PM
@comiccow6 - Exactly, Nolan knew when to make a joke, when to be funny and when to be serious. Testing out equipment? Perfect time for a joke, because people would be cordial at a time like that. No need to be super duper serious. Harvey Dent's death? Doesn't need a joke, Gordon doesn't need to make a quip or anything to break the tension. The tension is supposed to be there.
TLBcmovie9
TLBcmovie9 - 8/5/2016, 2:08 PM
This was an excellent editorial! I always try to look at the positives and I always avoid trashing a movie, because even the laziest movie ever made had a degree of effort and hard work. It seems like many people forget how difficult and challenging it is to make movies. It's okay not to like everything in a movie, but maybe that was the filmmakers intentions and that should be respected, even if you don't agree with it.
Like you said, films are an art form, and I think the artist's vision for that work of art should be respected. I'm pretty sure that one or two are hardcore fans and maybe they truly didn't like BvS or SS. So that b#@%$+*t of shutting down RT for the bad reviews of a film should just stop. But it's also quite sad that some fans waste so much time on a film they were disappointed by and enjoy trashing it and tearing it apart much more than watching a movie they liked/loved. At the end of the day, what matters to me is to have a good time w/my friends watching a movie, and rewatching it and buying it on dvd if I loved it.

Again, this was a great article. It's a way of saying "form your own opinion" and "if there's something you didn't like, get over it and move on". But unfortunately, that's not how the Internet works today. I cannot wait to see Suicide Squad next week!
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 8/5/2016, 2:41 PM
Get this on main! The genre should bring us together, not divide us. I remember when we were social outcasts and bonded together over the genre.
Bearjew
Bearjew - 8/5/2016, 3:29 PM
I too was totally won over by the promotional material and expected to see a great movie. I on the other hand felt it was horrible in some places (cgi wise), and a very poor characterization of the Joker. Mostly the editing seemed to be the issue. Also the Diablo demon sucked sooooo bad.
MiKi
MiKi - 8/5/2016, 3:33 PM
Nice editorial my man! Its such a shame that any discussion about cbms on here tends to turn aggressive so quickly. Me, I love all CBM studios coz they are all a different flavour and that's cool. If I don't particularly like a film then I move on to the next. Life's too short to waste it on things you hate!
blacksoufoda
blacksoufoda - 8/5/2016, 7:10 PM
Oh poor DC, how dare the big bad critics not love your movies? why is life so unfair?
Dude stop, the critics are not out to get you and your terrible movies, they simply didn't like it, making for the "fans" its not an excuse, and just to remind you, noone ever spends so much on something for such a small demogrhaphic, stop with this bullshit, "the critics don't like because its dark" thats such an bullshit excuse, they don't like bad films, end of story, and suicide squad objectively is a bad film in almost every aspect you look at it, just because you're blinded by your obvious fanboyism doesn't mean everyone is as well, their job is to analyze this as movie, so of course they won't be impressed with an terrible "comic" shot that this movie is so full of.
JDL
JDL - 8/5/2016, 8:11 PM
Let me be blunt. Fans of something often have lower standards for that thing than do critics. The reason is that most professional critics are NOT critiquing for fan boys. Their target is the general, more casual audience. It is entirely possible for both the critics and the fans to have differing opinions and both be right within their contexts because they are looking for different things. Critics want a good story, well told, Fans want cool moments, getting both is pretty rare.

JDL
JDL - 8/6/2016, 1:05 AM
@JDL - added; TL:DR Fans and Critics have different definitions of what constitutes a good CBM.
sikwon
sikwon - 8/6/2016, 8:58 AM
the argument that a CBM is made for the fans... does not hold water. Movies are made in order to make money. if a movie needs to make 700 million in order to be profitable there is no way, none, zero, that studio execs sit in a room and say "just make this for the fans and we'll be ok." no. just no. that's not what happens. they say "what would sell tickets? do that. will people pay money to see this? will we fill theaters? will this make money?" that is what studio execs do. at no point are they saying "well, this may not connect with general audiences but that's ok, fan support will get us to break even, the main thing is we reward fans of the comic with a good adaptation!" no. there's a difference when a company says "these are good characters, we can tell an entertaining story and keep people in the theaters. we don't have to change much because the character, like Batman, has a proven appeal to moviegoers. we just need to build a story that people will enjoy because we TRUST the character and the materiel. we just need to translate that to film." WB has not figured out how to do this. even with Batman, arguably the most popular character in the world and in all honesty the easiest to translate to movies (tons of material to pull from, built in character flaws, easy to explain and develoo motivations)theyou have been hit or miss. Batman 1, Begins, Darknight, all great movies. the other 4? terrible movies. WB has the Fox problem, they don't understand the appeal of these characters and how to highlight their character strengths (like Iron Man's charm for example) to reach beyond fans. they use the SURFACE elements of the characters and not the driving force of the character. that's why when it fails to reach beyond fans they say we made it for fans. if that were true, we would get a good movie.
dezdigi
dezdigi - 8/8/2016, 10:38 AM
@sikwon - This article also assumes that the CBM fans have a different standard for judging these movies. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people on this site that wanted BVS, and SS to be great films. Unfortunately, the overwhelming consensus is that they are not. If a few fans like the film, that's ok, but they can't change how everyone feels about it.
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