RUMOR: New Details On Franklin Richards' Powers In THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS And AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY

RUMOR: New Details On Franklin Richards' Powers In THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS And AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY

Some possible new details about Marvel Studios' plans for Franklin Richards have been revealed, including what his powers will bring to the table in The Fantastic Four: First Steps and Avengers: Doomsday.

By JoshWilding - Nov 28, 2024 11:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Doomsday

While it still hasn't been confirmed, we've now heard from multiple sources that Franklin Richards will be a key part of The Fantastic Four: First Steps and both Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige confirmed at Comic-Con that Marvel's First Family will appear in the latter two movies, but what exactly will young Franklin bring to the party?

According to insider @MyTimeToShineH, the son of Mister Fantastic and the Invisible Woman will have the ability to traverse the Multiverse in First Steps and Doomsday. That's sure to be a key plot point given how important this team looks set to be to the wider Multiverse Saga.

Remember, it was back in August when we first heard that Galactus supposedly summons Marvel's First Family by sending the Silver Surfer to Earth, demanding they bring Franklin to him. If they refuse, then he'll destroy their planet. 

What he could want with the boy hasn't been revealed, though we can look to the comics for clues. With Marvel Studios likely taking inspiration from "Earth X," a reality which saw Shalla-Bal become Silver Surfer, there may be a connection between Frankin and the world-eating baddie. 

In that series, the incredibly powerful young mutant agreed to let the High Evolutionary transform him into the new Galactus to restore balance to the universe (and protect it from the Celestials) after his father turned the original version into a star. He lost his memories but, given his heroic past and guidance from the two Silver Surfers, only consumed planets which would eventually give birth to a Celestial. 

That's a route this movie could head in, though this latest rumour makes us think it's more likely Galactus wants to use Franklin to open a doorway to other realities, particularly if he's aware this universe is about to die (and how better to feed his insatiable appetite than to have a Multiverse of planets to dine on). 

For now, we can only guess but with previous reports claiming these Avengers movies will focus on several teams, Franklin might open the door between worlds for one while America Chavez handles those duties for another.

In the comics, Franklin was created by writer Stan Lee and artist Jack Kirby and first appeared in Fantastic Four #94 in 1969. Possessing mutant abilities that allow him to manipulate reality on a vast scale, his powers have manifested in various ways throughout his comic book appearances. 

Set against the vibrant backdrop of a 1960s-inspired, retro-futuristic world, Marvel Studios' The Fantastic Four: First Steps introduces Marvel’s First Family—Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic (Pedro Pascal), Sue Storm/Invisible Woman (Vanessa Kirby), Johnny Storm/Human Torch (Joseph Quinn) and Ben Grimm/The Thing (Ebon Moss-Bachrach) as they face their most daunting challenge yet.

Forced to balance their roles as heroes with the strength of their family bond, they must defend Earth from a ravenous space god called Galactus (Ralph Ineson) and his enigmatic Herald, Silver Surfer (Julia Garner). And if Galactus’ plan to devour the entire planet and everyone on it weren’t bad enough, it suddenly gets very personal.

Paul Walter Hauser, John Malkovich, and Natasha Lyonne have been cast in mystery roles. 

Director Matt Shakman worked with both Avatar: The Way of Water co-writer Josh Friedman and WandaVision's Cam Squires on The Fantastic Four: First Steps' screenplay, with Eric Pearson (Black Widow) later coming on board for a final polish.

The movie is set to be released in theaters on July 25, 2025.

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rychlec
rychlec - 11/28/2024, 11:45 AM
Hate it. An OP character that hasn't been introduced yet will save the day. And it's a little kid.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 11/28/2024, 11:49 AM
@rychlec - I don't think the day will be saved. It'll be a cliffhanger setting up the end of the phase
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 11/28/2024, 11:50 AM
@rychlec - Sounds more like an OP kid will be used by a villain to frack it up not save it but we'll see as this could well be made up BS. Either way kids who can open doors to the multiverse doesn't make them the ones to save the day and always more likely the gizmo used by others to frack it up or save it.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 11/28/2024, 11:50 AM
@ProfessorWhy - also, it's Franklin FFS. not just done little kid. He's integral
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 11/28/2024, 11:56 AM
@ProfessorWhy - Yeh, Franklin was always OP and will likely grow up to be a major hero, but will be the adult F4 who save the day IF they manage to do so when more likely their universe is the first to be wiped out in the lead up to Secret Wars when ALL timelines will have been or about to be destroyed (then restored all be it with some differences in the likely soft reboot to merge mutants and F4 into the 616).
dragon316
dragon316 - 11/28/2024, 12:05 PM
@rychlec - no point having fantastic four of frankilin is that over powered
rychlec
rychlec - 11/28/2024, 12:09 PM
@dragon316 - It's true.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 11/28/2024, 7:17 PM
@rychlec - ya sounds like a bad story honestly.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 11/28/2024, 7:17 PM
@ProfessorWhy - that's even worse
manofsteel96
manofsteel96 - 11/28/2024, 11:50 AM
kid needs a mustache too
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 11/28/2024, 11:51 AM
@Pakent - Franco Richards
SethBullock
SethBullock - 11/28/2024, 12:04 PM
@ProfessorWhy - aka Francisco Ricardos
manofsteel96
manofsteel96 - 11/28/2024, 12:22 PM
@ProfessorWhy - Lol!
Murderisbadong
Murderisbadong - 11/28/2024, 12:04 PM
MTTSH has a pretty sketchy track record of being remotely correct. So not buying this.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/28/2024, 12:05 PM
I can already hear the complaining about this lol…

Anyway , i could see this being true but it also feels maybe too similar to Multiverse of Madness aswell with Wanda wanting America Chavez who has the exact same ability and Strange trying to protect her.

In the comics ,Franklin has reality warping/manipulating powers aswell as psionic abilities so idk if those can allow him to traverse the Multiverse but I could see him maybe being the one who soft reboots the MCU essentially…

Given he’s been a mutant in the comics (though recently retconned aswell) , perhaps he’s the same here and due to his influence then the X-Gene becomes more prevalent in this semi-new universe?.

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dragon316
dragon316 - 11/28/2024, 12:06 PM
Unlike any other rumors and reshoots believe when it happens in movies everything else false news until otherwise
MuadDib
MuadDib - 11/28/2024, 12:26 PM
As long as we end up with a Norrin Radd Silver Surfer in the MCU, IDC what happens

Apophis71
Apophis71 - 11/28/2024, 12:41 PM
@MuadDib - We probably will have Norrin Radd in this film, just maybe only in his pre-powers form in an alt timeline where he tried and failed to stop Galactus another way and his partner made the deal to save him and their world instead...

...whereas in 616 it will be the normal status quo thus the male SS will be the character in multiple films shows including potentialy a titular one where as the female SS a one and done character but conversely could have the actor in human form after this one film (well, native Zenn-La form anyway who if memory serves look human).
McMurdo
McMurdo - 11/28/2024, 7:18 PM
@MuadDib - well sounds like we're are 0-1 on that by the time this film drops
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 11/28/2024, 1:22 PM
I'll be frank with you, they seem to be putting far too much into the first episode for this to work.
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/28/2024, 1:57 PM
I think they should do it more like the comics and have The Fake Silver Surfer turn on Galactus and team up with The Fantastic Four to defeat Galactus.

Or have Norrin Radd The Silver Surfer save the day.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/28/2024, 2:24 PM
Seeing how they seem to have a fascination for Earth X at Marvel Studios, I wouldn't be surprised if they draw some inspiration from it.

Still, I think they shouldn't focus too much on the kids yet. I could see them appear, and maybe even track the FF down after jumping universe, but not take the spotlight yet.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/28/2024, 3:43 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I think them atleast already having Franklin is a way to differ them from the other on screen iterations we have had

I do agree that the spotlight should mainly be on the four though
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/28/2024, 5:02 PM
@TheVisionary25 - oh yeah definitely. Think the 60s setting already sets it apart from previous iterations though.

So they can focus on establishing the main four without worry of repeating stuff I feel. That is very important to get right first and foremost anyway.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/28/2024, 5:23 PM
@bkmeijer1 - oh yeah

However the more different you make it , the more appealing it could be for the GA to go see another FF movie
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/29/2024, 2:30 AM
@TheVisionary25 - for sure. Having kids in there would make it even more of a family flick than it already is.
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 11/28/2024, 2:25 PM
Agatha is gone and now they introduce Franklin? 🤷‍♂️🤣
RolandD
RolandD - 11/28/2024, 2:59 PM
Marvel has way too omnipotent characters.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 11/28/2024, 3:49 PM
@RolandD - Tend to be less so than DC in the main and more oft have built in flaws that can be exploited tbh, as in do like for like compare and contrast the DC versions in most cases tend to be considered more powerfull with less weaknesses.

The saying used to be DC had gods trying to be humans where as Marvel had humans aspiring to be gods.

That said the competition between the two brands did result in attempts at one-upmanship where one or the other would increase the power levels of theirs to be more OP than the other (prime example Aquaman retconned to be more like Namor and beyond to being considered more OP).
RolandD
RolandD - 11/28/2024, 5:14 PM
@Apophis71 - I agree with what you’re saying. I’m talking about more of the lower tier characters like Franklin in this case Wiccan who eventually comes this omnipotent sorcerer of some kind. They’ve just been in my face because they’re in movies and shows. Also, well I know this is not an origin story. It seems odd to start up with Franklin as their child already, although it’s all been rumors and nothing definitive either.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 11/29/2024, 7:22 AM
@RolandD - I kinda figure they opted to do this as already had an origin story for the F4 twice now and if starting before the kids were born we would never likely get them as you would be talking at least 16yrs before they were at a place to even start being heroes. As such I get both sides of all of this but on ballance think going with the already formed family unit is likely the better option if part of the MCU unlike if it were a standalone franchise where time skips to age up faster would be easier.
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 11/28/2024, 7:49 PM
Pretty sure this was a leak/rumor two months ago from someone else and MTTSH is just passing it off as their own scoop.

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