7 Ways James Gunn's SUPERMAN Has ALREADY Beaten Zack Snyder's MAN OF STEEL/BATMAN v SUPERMAN

7 Ways James Gunn's SUPERMAN Has ALREADY Beaten Zack Snyder's MAN OF STEEL/BATMAN v SUPERMAN

At this point, we've seen enough from James Gunn's Superman to get a pretty good idea of what to expect and, while some of you won't like it, we think it's already beaten Zack Snyder's take on the hero...

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By JoshWilding - Jul 03, 2024 12:07 PM EST
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Despite a divisive first look, Superman has greatly impressed fans in recent weeks. That's down to what feels like an endless supply of photos and footage from the movie's Cleveland set, all of which have showcased the reboot's characters and "Metropolis" setting. 

Way back in 2013, it was down to Zack Snyder to put a fresh spin on Superman in Man of Steel. That split opinions for its take on the iconic DC Comics character, as did Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (and, to a lesser extent, both cuts of Justice League). 

With Superman, James Gunn is looking to relaunch the hero and the entire DCEU as the new DCU. We won't know how he's fared until sitting down to watch this movie, but in the meantime, there are some telltale signs that the filmmaker's vision for Superman is vastly better than what's come before. 

To see how we think Superman has already beaten Man of Steel, click on the "Next"/"View List" buttons below. 
 

7. The Costume Is Better

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We might as well start with a controversial talking point and, yes, that's Superman's costume. The first official image released from the reboot wasn't good and, shockingly, appeared to even boast tell-tale signs of A.I. usage. 

Since then, we've seen David Corenswet suited up in a bunch of set photos. Not only is the costume far more colourful than the moody effort worn by Henry Cavill, but it's also very comic-accurate, right down to the red trunks and yellow belt (not to mention the logo on Superman's cape). 

It admittedly looks a little loose-fitting and created, but those are issues which can be fixed in post-production. Cavill's suit was gloomy, uninspired, and the padding made him look like, well, a blue Hulk. It worked in a lot of ways, but this latest effort is 100% classic Superman. 
 

6. There's A Distinct Difference Between Superman And Clark Kent

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Zack Snyder took a bizarre approach to Superman's origin story, with Clark not becoming a superhero until he was well into his 30s. In fact, he'd spent most of his life hiding his powers, going so far as to allow his father to die to protect his secret. 

As a result, the Kryptonian didn't reveal his alter-ego until the closing moments of Man of Steel when the hunky reporter threw on a pair of glasses and just started working at The Daily Planet. How no one figured out he and Superman were one and the same is beyond us. 

In contrast, Superman is following Superman: The Movie's blueprint by ensuring there's a distinct difference between Clark and his heroic side. Corenswet has been spotted with a completely different hairstyle and, based on set footage, is even changing his physicality as Clark.
 

5. He's A True Hero

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To put it bluntly, the DCEU's Superman was never much of a hero. He certainly leapt into action when required, but inadvertently killed thousands while fighting General Zod in Metropolis and, when he did cross paths with the public, they mostly seemed to treat him like a God. 

While we can appreciate what Snyder was going for, putting Superman on a pedestal like this robs the character of his charm and, in some respects, makes him feel like a parody or caricature. 

Corenswet's Superman has now been spotted helping the people of Metropolis on several occasions. We've also seen newspaper headlines revealing the ways he's stepped up to protect his home and do good, including taking a busload of young cancer patients to Egypt! 
 

4. The Daily Planet

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The Daily Planet did factor into Snyder's movies but, as noted, Clark didn't start working there until the end of Man of Steel. We got to see him do his thing for a brief stint in Batman v Superman, only for that to reach an abrupt end when Doomsday killed him. 

Amy Adams did the best she could with the material she had to work with as Lois Lane, but The Daily Planet had little in the way of character and was even located in the most nondescript, boring building imaginable. 

That was an issue with Metropolis as a whole and James Gunn has countered that by delivering a comic-accurate take on the newspaper. He's also showcasing a greater number of the characters who work there (including Jimmy Olsen who, in the DCEU, was shot in the head).
 

3. A World Inhabited By Superheroes

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Warner Bros. presented Snyder with a near-impossible task when they got him to start laying the groundwork for the Justice League to assemble in only his second DCEU movie. That meant rushed origin stories and weird, combative versions of these heroes in their early days. 

Superman, on the other hand, clearly takes place in a world with plenty of established heroes. We've now seen the Man of Tomorrow cross paths with Mister Terrific, Green Lantern Guy Gardner, and Hawkgirl, all of whom appear to be members of the same Maxwell Lord-funded team.

This feels like a far more effective way to build a shared universe and, based on how Batman was introduced, is something Snyder should have also done. The only problem is, the costumes worn by Guy and Hawkgirl...well, they're not great (in fact, they're pretty bad at first glance).
 

2. Embracing The (Right) Comics

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If Snyder wanted to make an R-Rated adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns, then he should have done so separately to the shared world Warner Bros. wanted to create with the DCEU. Clearly, there was some miscommunication between the two parties. 

By embracing the work of Frank Miller (which is, of course, fantastic), Snyder created a world full of cynical superheroes who didn't like each other and, more often than not, were out for each other's blood. It made for grim viewing and was rejected by the majority of moviegoers. 

Gunn has delivered heaps of emotion in his Guardians of the Galaxy movies along with some big laughs. The same is true for The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker; throw in some stellar action scenes, and he feels like a better fit. Crucially, he's taking inspiration from All-Star Superman!
 

1. Superman Is Loved, Not Hated

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Perhaps the most bizarre thing about Snyder's take on Superman is that, when he wasn't being worshipped as a God, he was viewed as someone to fear. The Government, regular people, and even Batman viewed the Man of Tomorrow as a terrifying alien who was far too powerful. 

His death created a period of mourning, yes, but when Supes did rise from the dead...it was as a villain! Had Snyder's plans for the DCEU come to fruition, then Superman was going to terrorise the world alongside Darkseid after falling under his control. 

Joss Whedon's Justice League wasn't great. Still, it's hard to deny that we didn't get a huge improvement when it came to Superman's portrayal, including a vastly more optimistic conclusion to his story. Needless to say, we don't expect the DCU's version to embrace his inner darkness...
 

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Forthas
Forthas - 7/3/2024, 12:06 PM
You should take "Man of Steel" out of the title...that is the greatest Superman film of all time and based on what I have seen will continue to be....
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/3/2024, 12:15 PM
@Forthas - isn't that the movie where he lets Pa Kent commit suicide by tornado? Or am I misremembering
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 7/3/2024, 12:16 PM
@Forthas - exactly superman legacy ain’t gonna blow people away. People actually think this will be a great film…. We shall see when the time comes…
Forthas
Forthas - 7/3/2024, 12:27 PM
@McMurdo - I don't know of any Superman film where Pa Kent commits suicide. Not sure what you are alluding to.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/3/2024, 12:29 PM
@TheMetaMan - Just based on the costumes and the introduction of Krypto...I guarateee this will be no where near as epic as Man of Steel! I am not even sure Superman will be central to this film given how many of Gunn's friends and family are filling up the screen time.
DarthAlgar
DarthAlgar - 7/3/2024, 12:35 PM
@Forthas - What brand of glue do you huff?

Asking for a friend.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 7/3/2024, 12:35 PM
@Forthas - For someone claiming it was such a great movie (man of steel) you have a pretty bad memory if you can't remember Pa Kent dying in a tornado as his son (man of steel) just watched. In my opinion "Man of Steel"was a piss poor interpretation of Superman. I thought so before I even left the theater, and struggled to justify the ending.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/3/2024, 12:48 PM
@Forthas - Superman II is the greatest Supes film ever. Superboy season 2 - 4 are second. WB's Superman & Lois is next.
Smallville sucked with horrible costumes, interesting villains they portrayed horribly, their Justice League was sh1t, and WAY too much teeny bopper drama going on.

I'd go with Routh as the next best, not in his film, but his way too short run as Kingdome Come Superman. Freaking Awesome.

Man of Steel.....
In the trilogy of Man of Steel, BvS, and ZSJL, how many lines of speaking did Henrey have? All 3 combined? Less than Bats in Bvs, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Blue Beatle, the Flash, Shazam! .... and so on. His Superman sucked and his Clark was 2000xs worse.

Get a grip on reality sir.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/3/2024, 12:50 PM
@McMurdo - and snapped an enemies' neck in front of civilians.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/3/2024, 12:51 PM
@SpideyQuad - I remember Pa kent dying in the Tornado and I have ZERO problem with that scene other than one creative choice. Had Zack Snyder used Dylan Sprayberry instead of Cavill in that scene...it would have had the proper effect intended. That is a minor error in an otherwise epic film.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/3/2024, 12:52 PM
@DarthAlgar - The same one you recommended...don't you remember?
SATW42
SATW42 - 7/3/2024, 12:59 PM
@DarthAlgar - "What brand of glue do you huff?"

Snyder's. It's like Elmer's but it's got like natty lite and vape juice in it.
SATW42
SATW42 - 7/3/2024, 1:01 PM
@Forthas - "I don't know of any Superman film where Pa Kent commits suicide"

"I remember Pa kent dying in the Tornado and I have ZERO problem with that scene other than one creative choice."

Pa Kent died by choice. Just because he thought he was doing what was right for his son, doesn't make it not a suicide. He could've lived, he told hjis son no. He made a choice to die.

Suicide.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/3/2024, 1:01 PM
@Forthas - dude. I've tried to be civil with you, but you are, coming from a poster who likes talking with you a lot, but you are hanging onto something that failed...epically. There's a lot I liked about MoS, and the city damage didn't bother me. He just did not have the inspirational spirit Superman has.

For Example. Chris Reeve was first presented to the world by catching Lois from falling to her death and then caught the helicopter and saving the dude's life in that thing. The crowd instantly cheered and knew Supes was there to protect them.

Man of Steel? His first exposure to the public dressed as Supes and all let himself be arrested by the military and taken in by cuffs. Gee, I wonder why the citizens of Metropolis didn't trust him.

Long story short, you are barking up the wrong tree. Man of Steel was great I thought. But it couldn't touch George Reeves, Christopher Reeve, Gerald Christopher, Brandon Routh, and Tyler Hoechlin.

Dean Cain...? eh Smallville? Way better than that teeny-bopper trash.
Fogs
Fogs - 7/3/2024, 1:11 PM
@Forthas - User Comment Image
Forthas
Forthas - 7/3/2024, 1:12 PM
@lazlodaytona - What in the F#CK are you talking about. In what conceivable way did Man of Steel fail? It was profitable, led to a sequel that outperformed Man of Steel at box office...and led to the green lighting of the DCEU. Where is the "failure"?

You QUALIFY YOUR EXAMPLES to meet your needs. Superman in Man of Steel first SAVES a bus filled with children , as an adult saves the people in the oil rig. That fact that it was public is something YOU want tomake a thing and it is not. So spare me the garbage about how he first became a hero in public. Cavill's Superman was aving people BEFORE Reeves on their respective time lines. When he was a kid...how is that less of a hero?
Forthas
Forthas - 7/3/2024, 1:17 PM
@lazlodaytona - @lazlodaytona - You can continue to believe that Man of Steel is not a good film becuase the Matrix is telling you to beleive it....but the fact are the fcat most of the criticisms leveled against Man of Steel are also present in Donner's films or in the comics. I am still waiting for you to show otherwise. I would have more respect for a person who was consistent and did not like Man of Steel OR Donner's films.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/3/2024, 1:18 PM
@Fogs - That was a good film!
Forthas
Forthas - 7/3/2024, 1:20 PM
@SATW42 - I know you want all of your little friends on this site to go along with you but if someone dies trying to save a person/animal it is an act of heroism and not suicide. Did you even watch the film?
Shmokey20
Shmokey20 - 7/3/2024, 1:28 PM
@Forthas - Man of Steel was a shit film, stop being a Snyderverse Simp
narrow290
narrow290 - 7/3/2024, 1:35 PM
@TheMetaMan - yesss! because James Gunn has historically made shit movies. You should be the director I'm sure it'll be waaaay better
AliX
AliX - 7/3/2024, 1:36 PM
@Forthas - Man of Steel was a Disapointment, Cant wait till James Gunn takes over.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 7/3/2024, 1:37 PM
@Forthas - I still get goosebumps when he starts pounding on Zod shouting “YOU THINK. YOU CAN THREATEN. MY MOTHER”

It was the first Superman movie I felt like Supes was finally able to punch as hard as he can.
SATW42
SATW42 - 7/3/2024, 1:38 PM
@Forthas - Yes, and that's not what that was. Pa chose to die and he 100 and 10% didn't have to. Period.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/3/2024, 1:40 PM
@Forthas - "Where is the "failure"?"

MoS turned a tiny profit for WBs who were expecting a billion dollar hull just because of the name brand:

"Was Man of Steel a successful movie?
Though the film was somewhat divisive, Snyder's unique style made Man of Steel a success, putting a fresh spin on the hero's well-known origin story. However, the franchise-building sequels that followed were fraught with issues, many of which began with Man of Steel.Aug 18, 2023"

"What is the profit of deadline Man of Steel?
As per Deadline's report, Man Of Steel had raked in just a little over $42 million as profit. If compared with $668 million, the profit is a little over 6%. That's a bit shocking!Sep 19, 2023"

Failure

BvS: "BvS ultimately made after considering all revenue streams for the film itself and subtracting all of the assorted costs. What is this? In the end, the film grossed $873m at the Worldwide box office, of which WB will pocket $367m. (The rest going to the theaters that showed the film.)"
Ouch. The two most iconicworldwide superheroes made WB just above $350 milliom. Oh, wait:
Oh wait, with a budget of almost $180 to $2 million + and marketing cost around $160 million.....

eeks. doesn't look good for Snyder's universe. Oh, and the failure? was those two films adding up to a Whedon-led clustf**k of Justice League. You really don't wanna the numbers to that one.

keep yapping about the DCEU verse. It may have been great for you but, as proven with the new DCU, Snyder's vision was an epic failure.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/3/2024, 1:40 PM
@Shmokey20 - Thanks for that wise and thoughtful comment!
Forthas
Forthas - 7/3/2024, 1:42 PM
@JustAWaffle - I think it is a great blend of various aspects of film making. While not perfect, the visuals, actors, score, cinematography, story and action was all top notch!
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/3/2024, 1:45 PM
@Forthas - i actually told u i liked Man of Steel. just not my kind of Supes. to each their own sir
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/3/2024, 1:49 PM
@Forthas - who did Superman kill in Superman: The movie by Donnor?
Forthas
Forthas - 7/3/2024, 1:53 PM
@SATW42 - So I guess you slept through that part...Pa Kent tells his super powered son to stay with his mother to protect her while he bravely went to save their dog they accidently left trapped in the car. At a certain point he has hurt his foot and realizes he can't walk, his son thinks about going to save him but Pa Kent waives him off to protect his identity...considering he MIGHT not make it (but does not know that) for a moment he looks lovingly at his son before seconds later (I presume he is crushed by some debris). That is NOT suicide. Now that you know what actually happened and not the fairy tales your friends and people on this site keep falsely repeating I think you are good to go.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/3/2024, 1:59 PM
@lazlodaytona - You keep brining up BVS which I have stated quite clearly is not something I defend. But of course you have to because you can't say man of Steel is a failure on its own. if it is a failure then so is Captain America First Avenger, Thor, and even The Batman.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/3/2024, 2:00 PM
@lazlodaytona -

"who did Superman kill in Superman: The movie by Donnor?"

No one...but in his best selling comic book ever Superman #75 Death of Superman...he kills Doomsday!
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 7/3/2024, 2:49 PM
@narrow290 - I’m not throwing shade at Gunn. I’m actually throwing shade at Warner bros. They have hired him to make a superman movie but if the movie fails it’s due to their influence and meddling as always. I don’t doubt Gunn, it’s the studio i don’t trust. I really hope I’m wrong but I just get this feeling it’s going to be silly, goofy and overstuffed.
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 7/3/2024, 2:50 PM
@narrow290 - as for your sarcasm, I have worked as a director and producer on film before so actually I’d easily make a better superman movie than you, if it ever came down to it. Just saying. 😅
narrow290
narrow290 - 7/3/2024, 2:51 PM
@TheMetaMan - The studio has always gave Gunn what he wants it seems like they actually trust him
narrow290
narrow290 - 7/3/2024, 2:52 PM
@TheMetaMan - fair enough
narrow290
narrow290 - 7/3/2024, 2:53 PM
@TheMetaMan - Also, I had like 15 notifications from your two comments
Biggums
Biggums - 7/3/2024, 2:57 PM
@Forthas - hush! wildingo needs the traffic....
Baf
Baf - 7/3/2024, 2:58 PM
@Forthas - That is a very interesting observation. I too hate the tornado scene, however, if Clark were pre-adolescent, the scene would have hit much better. I would have been ok with that.
The neck snap always made sense to me and served as a great multi-leveled motivator toward a no kill morality.
Baf
Baf - 7/3/2024, 3:01 PM
@Forthas - I would also say that Snyder should push to get a Snyder-cut with just that scene altered. Then all would be well in the world.
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