Superman: If There's a Divorce, Who Gets What?

Superman: If There's a Divorce, Who Gets What?

As fans are well aware, there's an ongoing legal battle being waged between Warner Brothers and the estates of Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster regarding the copyright of the Man of Steel. Today Variety is offering up an article that addresses who gets which "kid."

By EdGross - May 27, 2011 07:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman
Source: Variety

Writes Variety, "The Siegel and Shuster estates could wind up owning some parts of the Superman story while DC Comics owns others. The estates could get Superman's blue leotard, red cape and boots, plus an ability to leap tall buildings while DC retains villains like Lex Luthor plus Superman's ability to fly. The question is: Could each party proceed with a subsequent project without the other's involvement? In theory, come 2013 auds could see two parallel versions of the Man of Steel ramp up. In practice, that looks pretty unworkable."

The piece goes on to explain that no matter what rights the estates may be awarded, the all-important trademarks will continue to be held by DC/Warner, which would significantly impact on ways that the estates can create merchandise based on the character. Additionally, since the "reclamation" of copyright is limited strictly to the U.S., the international rights will remain with the studio.

The downside for Warners is that "come 2013, DC could still exploit the Superman projects it's already made, but under the Copyright Act, the company could not create new 'derivative' works based on Action Comics No. 1 and other properties held by the heirs. Presumably, more sequels would mean more legal land mines."

The article then postulates that both parties could create Superman adventures, noting a recent legal ruling between Neil Gaiman and Todd McFarlane regarding Spawn. Judge Richard Posner ruled that "Gaiman's 'Medieval Spawn' was 'sufficiently distinct' to justify a separate character copyright from the original Spawn."

Adds Variety, "Along this line of reasoning, one way to settle the Superman dispute would be to split the character in two -- a 1938 Superman and a Modern Superman -- and allow both sides to create new works based on their versions."

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StrangerX
StrangerX - 5/27/2011, 7:29 AM
I actually like the idea of two Superman in different eras. Nice job ed
blueorangeny
blueorangeny - 5/27/2011, 7:35 AM
it will all balance out,
jointron33
jointron33 - 5/27/2011, 7:55 AM
@blueorangeny what do you mean?
EdGross
EdGross - 5/27/2011, 7:56 AM
In the end I think they'll strike a mutually beneficial deal -- but I do have to admit, the notion of a '30s set Superman is VERY intriguing.
axiouz
axiouz - 5/27/2011, 7:58 AM
Looks interesting, lets see what happens in 2013.
superdog
superdog - 5/27/2011, 7:59 AM
thats all gonna be too complicated for both parties. they will work something out.
redsoxdude
redsoxdude - 5/27/2011, 8:00 AM
Well this is interesting. Cant wait to see how all this plays out.
loganoneil
loganoneil - 5/27/2011, 8:03 AM
What about other Superman-related properties like Supergirl, Superboy, Krypto, Kandor, etc. I understand these were created by other artists, BUT... without the Big Blue Schoolboy as the initial inspiration, there wouldn't BE any others! How does that factor into the suit? ...DOES is factor into the suit? A good chunk of the DC universe would go *poof* if somebody's not careful!
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 5/27/2011, 8:10 AM
"The estates could get Superman's blue leotard, red cape and boots, plus an ability to leap tall buildings while DC retains villains like Lex Luthor plus Superman's ability to fly."

So does this mean that the DC Superman would lose his costume? I also find it amusing that he would lose his leaping ability while retaining his flying ability.
AEStark
AEStark - 5/27/2011, 8:33 AM
OMG. Just pay them already. If Warner pays them, the estates will fade away into obscurity. It morbid stringing along the families of the people who made their most bankable character. It's Bill Finger all over again.
drfate
drfate - 5/27/2011, 8:49 AM
He doesn't HAVE to wear the same red and blue design. There are a lot of possibilities. It may be time for Supes to change wardrobe for good. Is all this legal crap the reason McFarlane got rid of all the good stuff: Al Simmons, Jason Wynn, Wanda, power-clock. Wynn was Spawn's Lex Luthor, I miss him (they really [frick]ed that up)

New Superman:


or how about picking up the godfall suit again:

JackBauer
JackBauer - 5/27/2011, 8:52 AM
All that $hit sounds [frick]ed up. I don't give a damn about Superman but a lot of peole do and it seems like he is about to get seriously screwed up.

Although I don't believe the Seigels or the Shusters should get jack, especially their kids or grandkids, it may be cool to have two distinct universes, one for the original Superman set in the 30's and one for the current Superman. DC could go ahead and give the current Supes his gray hair and costume from Kingdom Come and call it a day.

@DrFate - That costume could work as well. Just get rid of the ghey belt. It looks like something a female superhero or stripper would wear.
OnLeatherWings
OnLeatherWings - 5/27/2011, 8:58 AM
I think they should just give the rights to me
TheLight
TheLight - 5/27/2011, 9:02 AM
@Oreos

You're probably right. One will be DC, the other Siegel/Shuster. Who will win the rights to stay?


All I know is that we this settlement comes to a mutual agreement in court by 2013, we should expect to see some possible changes for Supes, whether we like them or not. Speaking of which, is anyone else getting worried about the hush hush on the "Man of Steel" progress?
ClarkFarley2012
ClarkFarley2012 - 5/27/2011, 9:07 AM
This could get real ugly. WB just needs to pay that $$. They got it. Let's not silliness ruin the greatest hero of all-time.
ClarkFarley2012
ClarkFarley2012 - 5/27/2011, 9:10 AM
@ TheLight...I'm getting worried too. It's almost like the movie isn't going to happen.
TheLight
TheLight - 5/27/2011, 9:23 AM
@Battlematcher

Man, if that's the case, he better make sure that he gets everything right when they start during summer. Otherwise, the movie will be lost before its made. They're running out of time.

@ClarkFarley2012

Supes is fighting to exist.
JatevinM
JatevinM - 5/27/2011, 9:25 AM
This is what Dc needs to finally give Superman a more modern and better suit. They can use the same colors just give him a redesign so that we still know that its Superman. I love Superman but can you really be afraid of a man who wears his underwear on the outside?
valeriesghost
valeriesghost - 5/27/2011, 9:29 AM
Superman is so iconic and a very important part of my childhood, (and still is), I would hate to see my kids grow up in a world where Supes has been ruined or diluted over greed.

I had posted an editorial about the idea of setting supes up in again in 1930's america and giving Lex a kind of steam-punk treatment. If anybody cares let me know and I'll post a link to it.
JULEZ13
JULEZ13 - 5/27/2011, 9:30 AM
I honestly don't want to see two different Supermen. Superman is one character and should stay that way. DC/WB seriously just need to pay these heirs the money they're looking for and call it a day. This has been going on too long! The money they'll be paying these a$$holes will be made back very quickly when the movie comes out and its many sequels and spin-offs (Justice League). After they pay them make them sign a contract stating that they will never be able to bring this topic up again in court. And that's that.

I would be furious if my all time favorite character was destroyed over incompetence (WB/DC) and greed (The Heirs)!
TheLight
TheLight - 5/27/2011, 9:41 AM
@JatevinM

Good notes but Supes was never meant to be feared, only intiminated.

@JULEZ13

The only "S" they see in this battle are "$$$". I want Supes to stay too, but you know how powerful people get with money.
Number1Wolverine
Number1Wolverine - 5/27/2011, 9:51 AM
@ DrFate

I could live with seeing the godfall suit more often.
Trapdinsteel
Trapdinsteel - 5/27/2011, 10:02 AM
I think one way or another we will have Superman, like others have said this could be a chance to upgrade the costume and have all of the fans of the original costume (like myself) forced on board with any changes. It is my understanding that the modern "s" symbol is trademarked and licensed by WB but I'm not 100% positive on that. Superman has limitless stories to still be told about him without his origins which have already been told countless times. Sad to say that and I hope everything works out but I guess time will tell.

@EvilOlive - Clearly that is merely your own opinion, however I would love for you to explain why you think Superman is the "worst one dimensional character" and "lame"?

I'm not sure why a person would consider a fictional character which represents things like truth, justice, selflessness, goodness and hope as "lame" or what that potentially says about you as a person but I would like for you to expand on your one line assessment since you felt it so important to share it to begin with.
LionPepsiJuice
LionPepsiJuice - 5/27/2011, 10:18 AM
if the Heirs win and get the rights of superman back, what in the holy mother of hell would they do with him? This is stupid. Superman is succesful because he's owned by a giant company that's full of talent. Superman will DIE if the heirs get back the rights
catman
catman - 5/27/2011, 10:39 AM
2 supermen from 2 eras sounds cool :) but yeah the heirs would not know what to do with him and he would die if they owned everything.. just give those bums superboy or something... As for just giving them the money like everyone says..well I guess it depends on how much money really dont it.. but the court MUST know that all the work over the years has been dc dc dc..if it were up to those daft jews..superman would have never made it pass a few years..cuz jerry and joe were too damn stupid too see the how much money they could make!
plasticman
plasticman - 5/27/2011, 10:47 AM
I agree with Ed on this one. DC/Warner will strike a lucrative deal. I can see them paying the bill for all the legal costs plus a lump sum, giving them a percentage of royalties, and working with the Siegel & Shuster clan on any additional 1938 Superman projects they deem fit. For example, if the Siegel & Shuster clan want to build a casino in Vegas based on the 1938 Superman then DC/Warner cannot stop them, but DC/Warner can join them by adding the later elements they created around Superman.
BeardManly
BeardManly - 5/27/2011, 11:12 AM
@ OnLeatherWings

Wrongo. The rights should go to ME!
ar8898
ar8898 - 5/27/2011, 11:19 AM
If Warner pays them, they will want more. Siegel and Shuster are dead, why should DC have to give up the character that they own just to make a bunch of greedy grandchildren happy? If they want a fortune, they need to work for it themselves instead of banking off dead grandparents. I hope they don't get squat.
Ichaos
Ichaos - 5/27/2011, 11:52 AM
Why do some people criticize the red short design. My god people they are wearing Spandex. They look silly by definition
skullboy
skullboy - 5/27/2011, 12:49 PM
Sucks....
RolandD
RolandD - 5/27/2011, 12:53 PM
Settle up and get this over and done with. Just pay the heirs with a settlement that ends if for all time and let's move on. @JatevinM-The man has the strength to move planets for God's sake. He could wear a dress and be intimidating. Seriously though, the suit is a classic and needs no changing. This isn't Smallville, this is Superman.
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