The EXCLUSIVE Deep Dive into SUPERMAN: MAN OF TOMORROW With Writer Tim Sheridan Concludes

@dracula - Well I like Man of Steel a lot so that doesnt really give me much confidence

@dracula - I never felt that way about Man of Steel so again that doesnt instill confidence lol To me what I hear when people say that is "this is hokey Superman" which despite him being my favorite character my entire life is often the case and a version of the character I really do not enjoy. I prefer the more existential and often serious takes like Kingdom Come, Death and Return (really the 90's in general since they were my original comics as a kid), and even the Bruce Timm stuff which is even still more stern than a lot of the other animated versions especially in the JL cartoon

@dracula - Then I’ll have to check it out

@Ha1frican - @Ha1frican - It was a step in the right direction from MoS, but its certainly not the complete young year one Superman I'd want to see.

I agree with @Dracula tho. It's way better than MoS. I just wish they had have adapted Birth Right, Superman Earth One Part 2 and American Alien. Between those three stories there's the ultimate modern Superman story. One with grit and realism but also with the heart and soul of Superman.

@Ha1frican - Not all versions of the character are valid my friend. If you do a superman who comes from krypton, exact same history, pa kent, ma kent, everything, but he acted like he was a member of the Nation Of Islam, would that be Superman? (As cool an elseworld as that would be lol)

There are clear parameters to a hero, and his or her lore. If you fall outside those parameters you are no longer dealing with the character.

I am aware there are some hardliners that think only Bruce Timm's Batman is Batman. Or Catwoman in Tim Burton isn't Catwoman, but they do not understand the mythology of these characters at all. They rely on a 90s cartoon to tell them who Batman is, rather than looking at what connects the many iterations of Batman or Superman. There are also some people who will never be happy, no matter what version they get. If Batman isn't a Ninja, greatest detective (whatever that means), who knows a million martial arts and can kill an army with his finger, but also never kills and won't even allow an enemy to die during an impending train collision of his own creation (like Ras Al Ghul) then its not Batman. Then there are Superman fans who literally think anything that isn't completely fun, light and cartoony isn't Superman.

Truly the two popular versions of Superman that dictate to most who Superman is Bruce Timm's Universe and Christopher Reeves. I have a much broader reading of the character. But people like the familiar. A "kneel before Zod" goes a long way. It makes people feel cosier, when trying to take in new interpretations of character. Its also fun to see how you can write in the familiar tropes of a character into new versions "I'm Batman." is iconic. I think a the idea of a Crystal planet and Crystal technology with modern CGI is much more interesting than the Krypton we got in Man Of Steel. Also that familiarity would have helped the film alot, even with the exact same story. But anyway I digress.



With all things in life it is about balance. Most of these people who comment on these iterations have no imaginations, they only have their gut and instincts. They don't spend a long time pondering the question who are these heroes? They just throw together a bunch of adjectives they think defines them. They are not storytellers themselves, so they can only rely on what has been presented to them to point at what they believe Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman or Flash to be.

The fact of the matter is there are some simple truths of these characters and any iteration that unifies the majority of people, is usually right and any that divides people is wrong. Every movie has its fans Man Of Steel, WW84, Superman Returns, all have there defenders, but if your movie divides people or the majority of people reject it, you simply haven't got the character right. You haven't spent enough time and care to really get what makes that character special and why people love and connect to them. And it is possible to do, even with massively popular characters, we years of lore like James Bond or Batman or Wonder Woman or Superman or even Watchmen. There will always be people who complain, but if you get 80 or 90 percent of people on board, you've done your job.


Whether people want to retroactively go back and say Batman 89 and Returns wasn't "real" Batman they are wrong because he was accepted by everyone as the Batman of their time. Nolan's Batman, is a Batman that the majority of people accepted as Batman, whether he had the detective or genius aspect to him or not, it's absolutely irrelevant. He captured the core of the character and what Batman mythologically stands for. He was the right Batman for his time. Same with Wonder Woman the movie. That wildly deviates from Wonder Woman comic book lore, but no Wonder Woman fan complained because it captured the core of the character. Just as WW84 did not and it was rejected. Shazam the same. Superman 78 was the Superman of that time. The right Superman for that generation. In film we are yet to get a Superman for our generation. in the case of Superman Returns because it tried to copy a Superman who was no longer relevant to our time. In the case of Man Of Steel because it tried to rewrite Superman and took everything away from him that made him Superman in order to force fit him into our more cynical age. Cap America didn't do that and it worked, Wonder Woman 1 didn't do that and it worked. They are very similar archetypes to Superman.

So as for whether or not you have to do a Superman that sticks exactly to the comics and doesn't deviate from them at all, I don't think you need to do that to make a good Superman movie. But you do have to make a Superman that is recognizable to the majority of people, not just a niche fanbase and I think the best way to do that is stay true to the core of the character and just bring that character into the modern world. Man Of Tomorrow does that better IMO than Man Of Steel.

@aresww3 - Yeah you literally lost me in the first sentence lol

@satsuinojxa - I really liked it!

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Welp! Since I got my second Covid shot and I feel like shit, maybe this’ll perk me up. I’ll check it out. Thanks fellas.

@ModHaterSLADE - hopefully they do a direct sequel

@ModHaterSLADE - and plenty of room for another solo outing, main one being who sent Lobo after the “last” kryptonian. Im thinking Brainiac

@DaHyro - Absolutely. Fingers crossed they remaster it still. It feels like even the producers behind the show don't treat it to as high of a regard as their work on Batman and Justice League, which is a shame, because I think it's a huge achievement that they should be very proud of.

I also hope Static Shock gets the blu ray treatment as well, but that might be asking for too much at this point lol.