Spoilers, Social Media, and CBM.com

Spoilers, Social Media, and CBM.com

In the information age, whose responsibility is it to prevent spoilers?

Editorial Opinion
By specialkail - Feb 04, 2015 09:02 AM EST
Filed Under: The Flash

Earlier today, an article was posted on the main thread of comicbookmovie.com.  In its title, there was a medium-sized spoiler regarding The Flash on CW. I'm not going to name the article or the poster, because I'm not here to call anyone out.  I will say, however, the poster was an Editor and because of this, his article was immediately posted to main. 



I was perturbed by this.  I saw the episode when it aired, but I found it to be insensitive on the part of the poster.  I was not alone.  Many voiced their concerns in the comments section, myself included.  Some contacted CBM.com directly through the "Contact" tab, myself included, to raise the issue with the administrators.

Spoilers have become increasingly difficult to avoid in this era.  Begging the question, whose responsibility is it to prevent a viewer or reader from becoming spoiled?

In a day and age when we can watch nearly anything at our own leisure, it becomes rarer and rarer that everyone watches at air time.  Sometimes by choice, and other times by circumstance, not everyone is watching when a program airs live.  

 


The answer to my question, ultimately, lies with the viewer or reader.  It is their own responsibility to prevent spoilers.  That, however, does not mean a site such as this shouldn't be spoiler sensitive.  It takes nothing for a poster to rename his or her headline in such a manner as to prevent the unaware from spoilers.  Considering sites such as this run on clicks for ad-revenue, it would seem they would want to keep their readers happy, allowing for those who haven't had a chance to catch last night's episode to grab a peek at CBM on their lunch break.  

I would like to propose a few guidelines to help create a spoiler-free atmosphere for those who want to maintain one.  Some of these go for readers/viewers, and others go for editors and contributors of articles.

 

  • For any television show please allow 3 days before posting any spoiler to social media.  This more than allows for shows to air across the country and the world, as well as gives stragglers a chance to catch up.
  • For any film, please allow 2 weeks before posting any spoilers to social media.
  • For any written medium, please allows 2 weeks before posting spoilers to social media.
  • If you know you are going to miss an episode, remove yourself from the social media zeitgeist until such a time arrives that you have seen it, or some dick has spoiled it in person.
  • It's your responsibility to prevent spoilers in person, no one else's, and you get a maximum of 3 days from air time to politely ask people not to talk spoilers.  If you're just now getting caught up on lost, sucks for you.
  • When posting an article that may contain spoilers, LABEL THE HEADLINE CLEARLY.  It's not difficult.
  • For ANY article posted to a website such as our beloved comicbookmovie.com allow 1 FULL MONTH before including spoilers in the headlines, or subheadings.  I know that sounds like a lot, but it's not unreasonable.  The people who visit this website are the commodity.  Not the other way around.  They should be treated with respect and appreciation.  The clicks of the masses are what feed the ad machines, so be appreciative.
  • In the event that a movie releases in another country before your own and you adamantly want to avoid spoilers, remove yourself from CBM.com or other sites like it for the duration of the blackout period.  It sucks, I know, I've done it.  However, it's better than having things spoiled, and the truly big information will still get to you, I promise.
  • If you want to avoid spoilers, avoid comments sections.  Plain and simple.  Articles that go up immediately after The Flash or Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. will be flush with people wanting to discuss the show, which is their right.
  • Don't intentionally post spoilers in the comments section.  In this, I mean don't go to an unrelated article and post spoilers.  That's a dick move.  Someone spoiled Iron Man 3's Pepper Potts ending for me on a completely unrelated article. 
  • If you see an article with a spoiler in the headline, report it!  I would love to think that CBM.com wants to keep their readers happy and would make a concerted effort to prevent spoilers from unreasonably reaching the main page.

I believe that's it.  Ultimately, the responsibility falls to you, the readers and viewers of the material, to prevent your own spoilers.  That doesn't mean we can't all agree to a few guidelines and try to help each other out.
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AsgardianHobo
AsgardianHobo - 2/4/2015, 10:17 AM
I got over spoilers a long time ago with this site. I already know that people in the UK or people other places that see a cam will post spoilers for the new Avengers movie on every article on the site. The only way to avoid it is to avoid this site for a few weeks, and I don't have that type of self-control :)

After a few years, I realized its an inevitability here, so I just roll with it.
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 2/4/2015, 10:26 AM
I don't think you understand journalism if you expect sites/writers/reviewers to wait DAYS before posting their recaps/reviews of episodes from the night before. The majority of viewers still watch TV shows live, viewer numbers/ratings is proof!! In some cases, journalists are able to see movies and TV episodes BEFORE they air, so they have time to write their reviews/recaps and post their articles the day after. When it's fresh in the majority of their viewers minds.

Not to mention, are you aware of how many actors, writers, creators, producers and directors live-tweet their shows?? Let alone fans who live-tweet episodes?!?!? William Shatner live-tweets Flash, among other shows. Fortunately for some he live-tweets on PST. I follow a lot of actors and comedians who live-tweet shows I watch.

Since I DVR all the shows I watch to skip commercials, I know to avoid twitter or avoid their tweets. Like you wrote, it's on ME, not THEM.
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 2/4/2015, 10:34 AM
@specialkail

Headline spoilers on here are one thing, but that's just wishful thinking. You can't hold user submitted posts to higher standard like other sites with actual journalistic integrity.

You're giving some too much credit. Some contributors on here don't even realize a teasing headline is better than one that spills the beans about their post and/or includes spoilers, ya know?? hahaha
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 2/4/2015, 10:34 AM
"The answer to my question, ultimately, lies with the viewer or reader. It is their own responsibility to prevent spoilers."

110% agree with this. Totally. Believe it or not, a lot of people like to point the blame at others and don't take any personal responsibility, so that's awesome.

But I'm not sure I can get on board with many of your proposed guidelines. You're obviously coming at this with good intentions...but most of your guidelines go completely against your previous statement.

We can't possibly expect people to refrain from posting spoilers on social media for any number of days (or WEEKS...come on), JUST because some people didn't bother watching it on time. That's our fault. Social media is a platform for people to discuss and have a conversation ON THEIR OWN SCHEDULE. How arrogant and entitled to expect others to delay their conversations days and weeks just because we haven't caught up yet. Sucks for us if we didn't watch the show or movie in time, but that's on us. Others don't owe us anything. Simply stay off social media until we see whatever we REALLY want to see, it's that simple.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 2/4/2015, 10:36 AM
For what it's worth, I agree that editors here shouldn't post ACTUAL spoilers in headlines, of all things. That's just insensitive, and it's so easy to avoid that. Same goes for the jackasses who go out of their way in the comment threads to intentionally spoil things for people. Totally agreed about avoiding sites like CBM if a movie comes out in other countries before you (guess what this American is doing when Age of Ultron comes out in the UK a WEEK before here), and avoiding comment threads about a show immediately after it aired is just common sense.
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 2/4/2015, 10:41 AM
A few years ago io9 did an article about a study claiming spoilers don't actually ruin the story. It's worth perusing. I was a die-hard LOST fan and I had the best, biggest twist spoiled for me. However, after watching it I realized it actually enhanced my anticipation for the "pay off." Same with Arrow, I knew Slade Wilson becomes Deathstroke, but how/when it happens made me more intrigued and engaged.

http://io9.com/5829720/new-study-shows-that-knowing-spoilers-doesnt-ruin-a-story
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 2/4/2015, 10:42 AM
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 2/4/2015, 10:49 AM
@SauronsBANE

It's blatantly obvious folks who deliberately go out of their way to spoil things as opposed to folks who are just can't contain themselves from talking about it.

The latter, if you call them out on it should/will usually delete their comment, which I respect.

I realize, in the day and age, you're going to encounter spoilers. I've accepted that, but that doesn't me I personally won't go out of my way out of respect for those who don't want things spoiled. Hell, I still don't talk major events from shows/episodes that aired years ago like the Wire, Breaking Bad, etc. because I don't want to anything for folks who haven't seen them yet. It'd be wonderful if others were as courteous, but that's the definition of wishful thinking. That will never happen.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 2/4/2015, 10:52 AM
@specialkail Ah, I gotcha. Maybe I sort of mis-read the tone of your article, but it totally makes sense from a "Here's a proposal of how to do this better" point of view. I still think it's unrealistic to expect anyone on ANY form of social media to adhere to that waiting period guideline, but I can definitely see where you're coming from now.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 2/4/2015, 10:56 AM
@ImKennyPowers Exactly. It's freaking common courtesy. And it's SO EASY to avoid posting majorly spoilerific stuff when you don't have to. Or at the very least, post a big old "SPOILER" tag before your comment. Yeah, I also try to stay away from talking about the big moments from shows like Breaking Bad or, heck, even Lost. It's so easy to just ask someone, "Hey have you seen this show yet? You mind if I spoil something about it?" and then respect their wishes.

*sigh*

Then, like you said, you have the idiot trolls who just get some sick pleasure out of ruining the experiences of others. Assholes.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 2/4/2015, 10:59 AM
Gusto has a very strange definition for the word "reward".
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 2/4/2015, 11:00 AM
I have gone out of my way to stay away from cbm.com when big movies come out. It is one of the most difficult things I do because I love this site, and have been coming here for years. But idiots who continuously post spoilers in the comment section have taught me a lesson, i.e Iron Man 3.
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 2/4/2015, 11:01 AM
Please do a [frick] Zergnet article. I hate those [frick]ing ads!!
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 2/4/2015, 11:01 AM
@Gusto

This site blew up. That was genius
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 2/4/2015, 11:16 AM
@specialkail

@SauronsBANE makes a good point.

If you want, you might edit your post to include screen shots that show examples of good headlines that use [SPOILER] to courteously tease their posts vs bad headlines that don't use [SPOILER]. Let's be honest, if you have seen an episode/movie you pretty much know what the post will include and be about. For instance, if I haven't seen the most episode of a show, I'm not going to click on a post about the promo for next week's episode and I sure as shit won't read said post's comments! hahahaha

The headline about Gorilla Grodd I think is a grey area. He's been teased throughout the series so some may be interested to see what he looks like, BUT some may like the "surprise" element of seeing it at the end of the episode.

For instance, my buddy is a huge fan of Flash comics, but he's only seen a few episodes of the show because he's waiting to watch the rest of them when his wife catches up on Arrow, then Flash. I knew he'd appreciate seeing the screen shot of Grodd, but that's because I know him so I could cater to my audience, if you will. It's a much tougher call when the audience you cater to, is much larger and compiled of folks you do not know as well and don't konw what they like/want.
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 2/4/2015, 11:19 AM
@Batmaniac

imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 2/4/2015, 11:22 AM
@batmaniac

I don't follow him, but someone I follow RT'ed that last night.

Apparently, from perusing his timeline Shatner live-tweets Flash, Supernatural, Constantine and 12 Monkeys. hahaha
NateBest
NateBest - 2/4/2015, 12:18 PM
@Everyone - I just edited the alluded to article title and summary to remove the spoiler*ish* items. Give it 5-10 minutes to refresh.
tokens
tokens - 2/4/2015, 12:34 PM
.... u serious?

stahp bein a bitch lol

grodd's appearance doesnt spoil anything.
he showed up.
ok.
so what?
is he reverse-flash?
is he controlling wells?
no. he just showed up.
that doesnt spoil anything.
buncha softies...
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