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Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 5/27/2023, 12:03 PM
One simple reason, WB has done too much damage to the DC brand over the years. Despite this very likely being a good movie, it's going to take more than one to get back the general audience's trust.
TheLight
TheLight - 5/27/2023, 12:10 PM
@Th3Batman - Exactly.

It doesn't matter if the movie does manage to pull off one of the greatest turnarounds in the DCEU, it won't be here after this. Especially since it's star has managed to create more real life villainy than his actual villains. People don't forget.

DC WILL continue to crash, even in the Gunnverse. There is too much to clean up.
Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 5/27/2023, 12:13 PM
@TheLight - The Gunnverse will not start out strong, as in making a billion per-movie out of the gate. However, if it manages to put out 2-3 good-great movies in a row, then things will start improving. They key here is WB sticking with it, and keeping the budgets on the low end to ensure profits are made.
TheLight
TheLight - 5/27/2023, 12:19 PM
@Th3Batman - "However, if it manages to put out 2-3 good-great movies in a row, then things will start improving"

To some level, I agree, but it will possibly be lukewarm at best.

We got those 2-3 movies with WW, Aquaman and The Suicide Squad and still nothing improved much. It just literally threw a leaking lifesaver in the Pacific Ocean.
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 5/27/2023, 2:27 PM
@Th3Batman - Well said.
inkniron
inkniron - 5/27/2023, 2:42 PM
@TheLight - but it didn’t start out with good movies. The first three were divisive at best, bad, and worse. Hard to overcome those oddsI know.
JDL
JDL - 5/28/2023, 1:14 AM
@Th3Batman - I 100% agree but I'm not sure they have what it takes to stick to that plan. If the movies are pretty good I would do one other thing; don't send then straight to their stramer. Hit at least one pay window. Make some cash and get some positive w.o.m..
DannRamm113
DannRamm113 - 5/27/2023, 12:07 PM
I mean, isn’t the Hollywood Reporter the only outlier right now? Like box office pro just released a projection of 85-135 million, even their basement isn’t as low as HR
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 5/27/2023, 12:08 PM
@DannRamm113 -


Look at the pre ticket sales. They aren't selling and the film isn't trending even with the free screenings😳
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 5/27/2023, 12:44 PM
@DannRamm113 - You honestly think this movie is pulling $140M OW?
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 5/27/2023, 12:07 PM
But I thought normal people didn't know about the Ezra situation?




A Big part of the reason this film will not do good is the DC brand has been tarnished. If it ain't Batman it ain't selling. Keaton's Batman in this looks terrible and I think the audience might be getting tired of Batman.




Matt reeves must be pissed😑
Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 5/27/2023, 12:15 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - No matter what this movie makes, it would have made less without Keaton and Batman.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 5/27/2023, 12:16 PM
@Th3Batman -


Just makes the IP look bad. DC is not a trusted brand
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 5/27/2023, 12:22 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - I think more people are aware than we realize because the Hawaiian crime spree was well publicized by TMZ, CNN, etc which is how my Mom found out about it even if she doesn't follow this stuff.
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 5/27/2023, 12:09 PM
I never thought this moment would come. A list here that I 100% agree with.
TheBlueMorpho
TheBlueMorpho - 5/27/2023, 12:10 PM


"Batman's Return Isn't That Big Of A Deal"
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 5/27/2023, 12:16 PM
@TheBlueMorpho - I guess Batman isn't that much of a box office draw anymore.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 5/27/2023, 12:17 PM
@comicfan100 -


WB [frick]ing sucks😑
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 5/27/2023, 12:37 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - Honestly. I got high hopes for James Gunn's new DCU after GotG3. Let's hope he can steer this ship in the right direction.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 5/27/2023, 12:45 PM
@TheBlueMorpho - Batman return is, but Batman returned last year...we already have a Batman, and we are about to have two, why would a third Batman generate interest? let alone a 72 years old Batman.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/29/2023, 5:44 AM
@TheBlueMorpho - That was the one item I didn't agree with. I think that younger people don't get how big of a deal Michael Keaton's Batman is, but that doesn't stop it being a big deal. The rest of the world is excited.
TheLight
TheLight - 5/27/2023, 12:12 PM
"Batman's Return Isn't That Big Of A Deal"


Speak for yourself dude,

I've been waiting for my Batman 3 and dammit I'm getting it one way or another with this movie, despite how it ends.
Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 5/27/2023, 12:16 PM
@TheLight - Batman 3 to me will always be Batman Forever. I am happy though that I'll get to see Keaton one more time.
TheLight
TheLight - 5/27/2023, 12:22 PM
@Th3Batman - True. I do have fond memories of Batman Forever👍.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 5/27/2023, 12:46 PM
@TheLight - This is not Batman 3...Batman Forever was closer to Batman 3 than whatever this is.
Origame
Origame - 5/27/2023, 1:01 PM
@TheLight - also don't get why now social media reactions are suspicious.
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