THE FLASH And ARROW Bicker In This International Promo For "Legends Of Today"

THE FLASH And ARROW Bicker In This International Promo For "Legends Of Today"

A New Zealand teaser for the first part of the upcoming Arrow/The Flash crossover event has found its way online, and features a few extra snippets of footage. See Barry (Grant Gustin) and Oliver (Stephen Amell) engage in a bit of friendly banter after the jump...

By MarkCassidy - Nov 27, 2015 08:11 AM EST
Filed Under: The Flash


PART ONE OF THE EPIC CROSSOVER WITH “ARROW” — In its second major crossover event with “Arrow,” Vandal Savage (guest star Casper Crump) arrives in Central City and sets his sights on Kendra Saunders (guest star Ciara Renée). After Vandal attacks Kendra and Cisco (Carlos Valdes), they turn to Barry (Grant Gustin) for help. Realizing how dangerous Vandal is, Barry takes Kendra to Star City and asks Oliver and team to hide her until he can figure out how to stop Vandal. However, things quickly go from bad to worse when a man with wings AKA Hawkman (guest star Falk Hentschel) shows up and flies off with Kendra. Meanwhile, Harrison (Tom Cavanagh) develops a serum to make Barry run faster and asks Jay (guest star Teddy Sears) to test it out. Ralph Hemecker directed the episode with story by Greg Berlanti & Andrew Kreisberg and teleplay by Aaron Helbing & Todd Helbing.


The Flash returns with "Legends Of Today" on December 1st.
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GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/27/2015, 9:54 AM
I love Flash, but that dialogue was hammy....
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/27/2015, 9:55 AM
@Jollem Im hoping somewhere on cable. Would love to see Constantine on AMC or something
Supafairy
Supafairy - 11/27/2015, 9:58 AM
@CrappyNappy Meh, I like it. If I want non-hammy dialogue I watch Game of Thrones or Mad Men or something like that. I watch these shows for the fun...and that's what they are..just pure, awesome geeky fun...
dragonator29
dragonator29 - 11/27/2015, 10:10 AM
@Supafairy: So you are saying that you can't have both well written dialogue and pure fun in a show? Is being 'awesome geeky fun' an excuse to overlook the crappy dialogue?
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/27/2015, 10:14 AM
@Jollem
DCMarvelFanGuy
DCMarvelFanGuy - 11/27/2015, 10:27 AM
@dragons292014: I think it's cool for Flash to have cheesy dialouge! The show embraces so much Silver Age already.
MikeZ
MikeZ - 11/27/2015, 10:37 AM
@ CrappyNappy - 11/27/2015, 9:11 AM

Flash had charm. But Arrow has Thea and her bullshit. I stuck in as long as I could during season 2. I don't know if it was the writing, because I hear Willa Holland is a competent actress, but that character really enraged me at the end. I think it was the writing, I had to be reminded over and over again the character's plight. That whole arc with Thea is the reason why the CW is being looked at as a channel for dopey teens. Say what you want about The Vampire Diaries, but at least the writers took some of these tropes and made the characters at least endearing. When I'm watching a TV series based on a comic book, I don't want a character who belongs on Degrassi mucking up the works.
ThedamnBatman
ThedamnBatman - 11/27/2015, 10:52 AM


Chill



DCMarvelFanGuy
DCMarvelFanGuy - 11/27/2015, 11:09 AM
@MikeZ: I know what you are talking about. She came across as really whiney in the first two seasons. It's kind of funny, because she's probably one of the better aspects of the show this season.
Supafairy
Supafairy - 11/27/2015, 11:27 AM
@dragons292014 maybe it is. Can you compare reading a comic to reading novel?

Good novelists like Robert Ludlum, GRRM, Rowling, James Patterson, etc. can provides us with good dialogue while making the books and content fun because they have paragraphs and pages where they can describe what's happening and create paragraphs of speech.

Comics is slightly different, you have only so many panels that you need to fit in visual story-telling together with narrative-story telling, that results in the narrative to be cut down to create balance between the action and the dialogue and at times it does come out cheesy.

The way I see Flash and Arrow is that it's trying to mimic the comic book format on screen. Yes, it doesn't always work but for most of the time it does. For shows like Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad the concept is more "grounded" and the narrative is effectively more important than the action.

Walking dead is a good example of where both can be achieved BUT in the more action heavy episodes the dialogue is sacrificed to fit in more of impact of the action, but in the less-action orientated shows, the narrative is brought to the foreground, it's more meaningful and intense during those episodes.

Even Daredevil vs AoS is a good example of the contrast between wanting to make a show more like the comics vs. a more serious dialogue driven show. Even the MCU movies do the same, hence the one-liner and quips. Where there's no actions they do well , but the moment you have the "comic book" element, the script suffers.

So answer your question, yes , you can have good dialogue and have fun, and not it's not an excuse to overlook crappy dialogue BUT it all depends on the perspective of the show involved and the type of environment they are trying to create. As a comic book show, I'm OK with it. But if they did that with Daredevil or Jessica Jones (as an example), which is meant to be more serious, then I won't like it. Although those shows have their own list of flaws, in my opinion of course.
Robby
Robby - 11/27/2015, 12:53 PM
whoop whoop
DCMarvelFanGuy
DCMarvelFanGuy - 11/27/2015, 12:54 PM
@XF14: CHIMICHANGA!
DCMarvelFanGuy
DCMarvelFanGuy - 11/27/2015, 12:57 PM
@XF14: In all seriousness, the dialouge can sometimes be pure Silver Age, which I appreciate since that's where the Flash originates from.
ManDeth
ManDeth - 11/27/2015, 3:05 PM
Each time Arrow teams with The Flash or Constantine, Amell tries to add comedic layers to Oliver and looks foolish as he fails. The Arrow character is very inconsistent in other ways too. He's been a pushed around nothing by his comrades this year but he's a mouthy jerk to Barry. He once was supposed to be unbeatable by everyone but the season big bad guy but we've seen him unable to handle Thea twice, punched by Diggle and held hostage with a knife in his back by a female cop.

The character of Oliver Queen is a big mess.
rabid
rabid - 11/27/2015, 11:00 PM
Yes. Ollie is a mess. As he should be. They've got that part comic book accurate.
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