THE FLASH: [SPOILER] Shot Their Cameo In Person But Warner Bros. Still Decided To Overlay It With Bad CG

THE FLASH: [SPOILER] Shot Their Cameo In Person But Warner Bros. Still Decided To Overlay It With Bad CG

The Flash director Andy Muschietti has revealed how one of the movie's biggest cameos became a reality, confirming the actor actually shot his scenes...only to ultimately be replaced by a CG stand-in.

By JoshWilding - Jun 20, 2023 11:06 AM EST
Filed Under: The Flash
Source: The Playlist

During The Flash's final act, Barry Allen travels through the Speed Force and sees some of the many other timelines and realities that exist across the DC Multiverse.

This leads to a number of cameo appearances, including Adam West's Batman, a generic Jay Garrick, and a resurrected Christopher Reeve as Superman. However, the biggest surprise comes when Nicolas Cage is shown fighting a giant spider as the Man of Tomorrow. 

Hardcore DC fans will know the actor came close to playing Kal-El in Tim Burton's ill-fated Superman Lives, and it's undeniably fun to see Cage finally suit up. Unfortunately, as with the other cameos mentioned, CG is used that, quality-wise, is akin to a late 1990s/early 2000s blockbuster. 

Talking to The Playlist, The Flash director Andy Muschietti confirmed Cage actually suited up and shot his scenes, making it all the more disappointing that what fans saw was akin to a video game cutscene. 

"We talked with Nicolas, and we decided to shoot him in his suit," the filmmaker reveals. "And so, we built the suit with the same costume designer that built the suit for the unproduced ‘Superman Lives,’ which is a movie that would have been great, but nobody will see because it wasn’t made."

"But the excitement was shared with Nicolas, and Nicolas is such a kind guy, and I think he shared the enthusiasm for bringing back that movie that was never done – even for a couple minutes in our movie. And yeah, the magic of the Multiverse is expressing that this universe exists, even though it’s a movie that nobody saw. So, we’re kind of saying that there is a 'Superman Lives.'"

With any luck, some behind-the-scenes footage exists somewhere as it would be incredible to see what Cage looked like wearing the suit designed for Burton's movie.

Muschietti has claimed it was a stylistic decision to portray the Speed Force in the manner we saw on screen, but it's no secret many of the cameos were added through reshoots and that Warner Bros. had already spent enough on the movie by then.

Asked whether there were ever any concerns about people not understanding the Superman Lives reference, the director added, "Someone said, ‘What about the people that don’t know that Nicolas Cage [was going to be Superman]? Wouldn’t it be a funny moment to see Nicolas Cage out of nowhere dressed as Superman?'"

"And our answer was, 'We don’t care!'" That...explains a lot

The Flash is now playing in theaters. 

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DocSpock
DocSpock - 6/20/2023, 11:58 AM


And it just keeps getting worse....

mountainman
mountainman - 6/20/2023, 11:59 AM
The “we don’t care” line sums it up quite perfectly.
whynot
whynot - 6/20/2023, 11:59 AM
@ JoshWilding
Good, I can feel your anger. I am defenseless [The Flash movie] Take your weapon. Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
ShellHead
ShellHead - 6/20/2023, 12:20 PM
@whynot - Ok this made me chuckle and deserves more likes
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 6/20/2023, 11:59 AM
Y tho? Especially if he shot it in person

And also why not include the weird ass Crystal solar suit if you really wanted to take it there
TheLobster
TheLobster - 6/20/2023, 12:19 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - the latter it’s because that crystal suit was never meant to be an actual suit but moreso for him to recharge in.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 6/20/2023, 12:26 PM
@TheLobster - I get that but that’s also one of the most known things about that movie so why not just include it
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/20/2023, 1:18 PM
@TheLobster - It also had a secondary use to be worn at late nineties dance clubs and raves.
UrbanTheEmcee
UrbanTheEmcee - 6/20/2023, 12:04 PM
It was evident those speed force scenes were supposed to look plastic.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 6/20/2023, 12:21 PM
@UrbanTheEmcee - seriously.. I don’t get how folks are misunderstanding this lol

CGI fx in other spots are wonky, totally, but the montage here is supposed to look the way it did. I’m not saying it’s the best choice but it was an intention choice - not a CGI [frick] up like Marvel does in every film because they work their fx team to death.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 6/20/2023, 12:58 PM
@UrbanTheEmcee - no
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/20/2023, 1:24 PM
@UrbanTheEmcee - So what's his excuse for the non speed force scenes, like this nightmare Ally MacBeal baby:
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 6/20/2023, 2:01 PM
@ObserverIO - Thefuq?? Haven't seen the movie this is an...odd gif out of context
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/20/2023, 2:19 PM
@UncleHarm1 - Oh yeah *ahem* sorry. um, it's in reverse, lol.

Still [frick]ing terrifying in forward motion.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/20/2023, 2:22 PM
Actually now that I'm looking at it, that still probably doesn't explain it all that much, lol... I promise it makes sense in the movie.
UrbanTheEmcee
UrbanTheEmcee - 6/20/2023, 2:45 PM
@ObserverIO - No excuse, that shit is bad CGI. I'm not defending the CGI. The speed force CGI was meant to look plastic though. You can tell because Barry's CGI is artistically different to all the shit surrounding him. I thought it was super obvious.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/20/2023, 2:51 PM
@UrbanTheEmcee - I'll compare next time I watch it.
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 6/20/2023, 3:21 PM
@ObserverIO - Wow lol I see it now. Either way this movie broke new ground in terms of baby in a microwave scenes.
StSteven
StSteven - 6/20/2023, 4:43 PM
@UncleHarm1 - And naturally now the studios are all going to try to one-up each other on "baby in a microwave" scenes. Next it's going to be Sony with "2 babies in an oven" in "Kraven" and then Marvel with "triplets on a grill" in "The Marvels", etc. It never stops.
MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 6/20/2023, 12:06 PM
Muschietti is such an idiot.
I will never watch anything by that dick again.
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 6/20/2023, 12:30 PM
@MarvelZombie616 - Go have a Bud Light light and calm down
GhostDog
GhostDog - 6/20/2023, 12:07 PM
"And our answer was, 'We don’t care!'"
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 6/20/2023, 12:08 PM
‘Asked whether there were ever any concerns about people not understanding the Superman Lives reference’

Yeah. Didn’t matter to the audience we watched it with. They saw Nic Cage and the theatre erupted.

Which actually led to a nice conversation with my Partner on ride home.

I got to tell them all about ‘Superman Lives’, Kevin Smith, the Giant Spider, Wild Wild West Giant Spider Connection. Then we watched costume fitting footage of Cage and Burton.

Good times!
n1ghtw1ng2832
n1ghtw1ng2832 - 6/20/2023, 12:11 PM
This guy is truly showing just how pathetic he is, with the simple fact that he is still talking about this damn movie. Does he not have any other articles or any other crap he can talk about? Any chance he gets to crap on this movie he does. I thought this was supposed to be a website about news and upcoming things, not some idiots personal opinions.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 6/20/2023, 12:27 PM
@n1ghtw1ng2832 - one of the biggest comic properties just dropped what else is he supposed to talk about?
MovieMonster
MovieMonster - 6/20/2023, 12:12 PM
I got the feeling that the CGI was used make Cage look like he what have looked like in 1997-1998 when the movie was supposed to come out. My theater cheered even if it looked like shit.
KurtLazner
KurtLazner - 6/20/2023, 12:14 PM
Saw Spiderman Far From Home not too long ago and it had horrible cgi. Amazing how no one noticed that. But aside from Marvel and their bad cgi, people also complained about Doomsday in BvS, who's cgi looks miles better than what we've gotten the last few years. So what have we learned? People just bitch bitch bitch about things if it doesn't favor their fandom, regardless.
KurtLazner
KurtLazner - 6/20/2023, 12:14 PM
*whose
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 6/20/2023, 12:28 PM
@KurtLazner - people literally complain about marvel cgi all the time

Why is this stuff always a pissing contest ?

“No you’re film is shittier than my shitty film”
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 6/20/2023, 1:09 PM
@KurtLazner - FFH is one of the most disliked MCU movies, ever.
And it wasnt promoted as "the best comic book movie ever".
JFerguson
JFerguson - 6/20/2023, 12:14 PM
“We don’t care!”

About the fans

Or about the general audience

Or about Ezra Miller abuse victims
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