J. Michael Straczynski Discusses Outlining the THOR Film and His Cameo in the Movie

J. Michael Straczynski Discusses Outlining the THOR Film and His Cameo in the Movie

JMS tells CBR that he was not concerned with credit for the story in the THOR film.

By Hawksblueyes - May 11, 2011 06:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Thor
Source: CBR

With all the articles I have posted and read on this site over the last two years, I was still surprised when viewing THOR to see "Story By J. Michael Straczynski " in bold letters across the screen. While I knew the people at Marvel were involved with the direction of the film and that his run was to be a big influence, I was not aware he was involved to that extent. Well, this morning I found an excellent interview that CBR recently conducted with the man himself discussing all things THOR. What follows is the portion that covers his involvement with the film.

Fans no doubt noted your "Story By" credit when they saw the movie this weekend. What was your involvement like on the film?

I was involved at a very early stage, breaking the story in meetings with Kevin Feige and Craig Kyle and others. I’d meet, we’d talk, I’d break out the beats of the story, come back, we’d go over them some more, I’d work up a more detailed outline...by the time I was done the bones of the structure were there, all the major beats were worked out.

Now, here’s the part that nobody knows: when the time came for the on-screen credits to be arbitrated by the Writers Guild, I didn’t put in for credit on the outline. I had decided to let it go, because the writers who came after me were the ones who would have done all the heavy lifting. I felt that they were the ones who should get the credit. This attitude was a hold-over from my work in TV. On shows like "Babylon 5," "Crusade" or "Jeremiah," I would routinely assign stories to other writers, but I would never arbitrate for story credit, I didn’t think it was fair to cut into the residuals of other writers. Still don’t.

Then I got an unexpected email from Don Payne, one of the aforementioned writers, who was practically apoplectic that I hadn’t put in for credit, a sentiment shared by the other writers as well. When I explained my reasoning, he intimated that I was out of my freaking mind. “The outline is the movie,” Don said. “We were given your outline and it’s all there, it’s the story you created, and it’s the comic you wrote, which is also the basis for the film. You have to apply for shared story credit.” Neither he nor the rest cared that it would cut into their residuals: they were adamant about doing the right thing.

Finally, I agreed, and sent the outline in with the other story materials to the WGA for purposes of arbitration. (The WGA did not include or factor in the comic as it’s outside their purview.) During the process, Zack and Ashley, the other writers, also insisted that it be given proper credit since it had been the backbone of the movie from day one. And when the arbitration came through, the credit was there.

I convey the foregoing because there’s this notion fed by the popular press that in the movie business, writers will routinely try to screw other writers out of their proper credit for a few bucks. But these three writers willingly sacrificed a huge chunk of their residuals to ensure that proper credit went where they felt it was deserved, and they should receive massive props for that. They are emblematic of the best of us.


You also had a cameo! I heard the experience was a little different on the filming end than you anticipated. Were you pleased with what finally made it to the screen? Have you interacted at all with your fellow guest stars like Walt Simonson or Stan Lee?

First, I was just going to be one of a bunch of guys sitting at a table in a banquet scene. But Ken decided that the cameo should be more than that. So then I was to be one of the guys trying to pick up the hammer. Then he expanded it, deciding that I should be the guy who drives up, walks to the crater, finds the hammer, can’t pick it up, and goes to get his friends for a tractor-pull.

So suddenly I was in several scenes and had dialogue. (I’m also in the big car-pull scene later, to the left of the crater, near the car where Stan tries to yank it free; there was additional dialogue here but it was cut for time.) He was very gracious and welcoming on the set, and we spent a good amount of time between shots talking and hanging. When I mentioned that I’m putting together a film of my own to direct, he said that Natalie would be perfect for it, and that I should fly out to New Mexico, and as a thank-you he’d arrange for us to spend some time. Being under deadline on another film for Bruckheimer, I wasn’t able to take him up on the offer, but it shows the measure of the man.

So I’m very happy with how the cameo went, despite the fact that no matter how you adjust the film projector, you can still see me in the shot. And when the hell did my head become pear-shaped? When did THAT happen?


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Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 5/11/2011, 6:42 AM
;P
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/11/2011, 7:11 AM
He is the man!!! ; )
batmbl
batmbl - 5/11/2011, 7:36 AM
J. Michael is the man...has been for years and will continue to be for years to come...B5 is still the best sci-fi series from beginning to end and he wrote at least 2/3 of those episodes...he's a class act!!!
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/11/2011, 7:40 AM
he should write the sequel & have branagh direct.
VictorHugo
VictorHugo - 5/11/2011, 7:52 AM
Agreed, J. Michael Straczynski´s Babylon 5 is the best Sci-Fi series ever to hit TV.

"Thor" was treated like a spin-off of Babylon 5, as the Asgardians being one of the first ones, complete with wormholes generators.

Arthur Clarke´s reference was a class act.

Yggdrasil as being made of nebulas, was...heavenly.
write33
write33 - 5/11/2011, 8:03 AM
JMS is a true talent and full of integrity. we need more creators like him. fine way to start the day, reading something like this.
Shaman
Shaman - 5/11/2011, 8:04 AM
Not only did this guy give us Babylon5 but also epicly wrote He-man, She-Ra, The Real Ghostbusters and Captain Power episodes!!! He is GOD!!!
DiLusso
DiLusso - 5/11/2011, 8:12 AM
my favorite writer. i love rising stars and midnight nation. they are my most prized comics
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 5/11/2011, 8:13 AM
I can't say that I have read anything from this man that I didn't think was fantastic. He certainly made Thor relevant again.

Good to see you Shaman.
DiLusso
DiLusso - 5/11/2011, 8:17 AM
@hawksblueyes

amen brother
rockstar728
rockstar728 - 5/11/2011, 8:19 AM
So cool - gives me hope for mankind. :)
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/11/2011, 8:24 AM
i think jms best books are.

-silver surfer requeim
-thor
-the incredible hulk(prelude to planet hulk)

haven't read his spider-man or fantastic four run.
DiLusso
DiLusso - 5/11/2011, 8:30 AM
his stand alone stuff is epic
asherman93
asherman93 - 5/11/2011, 8:33 AM
@marvel72
I though Daniel Way wrote the Prelude to Planet Hulk?

...And sorry to say it guys, but he might be starting to suffer from creative decay, have you seen the reviews of his Superman and Wonder Woman runs?
Stealthduck
Stealthduck - 5/11/2011, 8:35 AM
@ Hawks...Nice find/post, very nice to see a story of humility and peer recognition in the (or any!)industry.
Makes for better reading than the Superman rights fiasco.
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/11/2011, 8:56 AM
@ repulse93

you're right,my mistake i've got in tpb form & on the cover it says way & straczynski.

had a look inside.

way writes the incredible hulk 88-91
straczynski writes fantastic four 533-535
Shaman
Shaman - 5/11/2011, 9:14 AM
Right back atcha, Hawks ;)

Tea- I always come in to take a peek. I hardly have anything to say that i haven't already, though. That could explain why i'm so silent lately :)
juggy4711
juggy4711 - 5/11/2011, 9:40 AM
Awesome they gave Walt Simonson a cameo. I have his entire run on Thor. One of the nicest parts of my collection and basically the only Thor stuff I have.
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 5/11/2011, 9:51 AM
Your penis is a subject we are all familiar with tea so nobody is ever at a loss for something to say about it. ;P
Shaman
Shaman - 5/11/2011, 10:02 AM
Tea- I have a shrine at home in honor of your penis. I call it my happy place and go there in times of hardships. It cracks me up and fills me with warm joy.
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 5/11/2011, 10:06 AM
Shaman: I am just ecstatic that all you get from tea's penis is warm joy. I am still receiving treatments because of my last exposure to it. =D
Teois42
Teois42 - 5/11/2011, 11:24 AM
JMS is a comic-book GOD.
Shaman
Shaman - 5/11/2011, 11:36 AM
Hawks- Well... it's a representative shrine. If it was the real deal, i'd be sittin' in the same emergency waiting room as you ;P

Tea- God bless you two ;)
comicb00kguy
comicb00kguy - 5/11/2011, 3:57 PM
A class move by the other writers to give JMS credit for the story. A rare act of selflessness in Hollywood. Thanks for sharing that.
EarOne
EarOne - 5/19/2011, 5:33 AM
i just recently began to like Thor from reading his work of rebooting the monthly titles, where Asgard appears on earth, in the Mid-West.

he's successfully made Thor and his whole lore accessible to those outside the Thor's longtime fandome. and just for that, the movie DOES owe it to him. he deserves the credit. NO DOUBT.
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