THUNDERBOLTS*/*THE NEW AVENGERS Nears $300 Million Worldwide - But Will The Movie Be A Hit For Marvel?

THUNDERBOLTS*/*THE NEW AVENGERS Nears $300 Million Worldwide - But Will The Movie Be A Hit For Marvel?

Marvel Studios' latest movie, Thunderbolts*/*The New Avengers, has been a hit with fans and critics, but doesn't appear to be bringing enough filmgoers into theaters even as $300 million now beckons...

By JoshWilding - May 11, 2025 06:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Thunderbolts
Source: Deadline

Thunderbolts* is Marvel Studios' best-reviewed movie since 2021's Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings and Spider-Man: No Way Home. If its 94% "Popcornmeter" score on Rotten Tomatoes is any indication, fans also love it. 

Unfortunately, Captain America: Brave New World may have washed away any goodwill created by Deadpool & Wolverine. Thus far, people simply haven't flocked to the team-up (which has been rebranded *The New Avengers).

Does a superhero movie need to be an event to attract audiences now? Were these characters—many of whom have been seen primarily on streaming after Black Widow bypassed theaters during the pandemic—and the "Thunderbolts" branding simply not a big enough draw? It's hard to say, but the movie has reached a respectable $272.2 million at the worldwide box office. 

According to Deadline, it's made $143.7 million overseas, with a -52% drop (-50% excluding China). That's a very good hold, though it would obviously mean more if its global opening had been bigger last week. Still, Thunderbolts*'s "social scores" are said to be "great," and the trade expects it to reach $300 million by the end of the week. 

As for whether it can turn a profit, it's hard to say. Thunderbolts* cost $180 million to produce and approximately $100 million to market, so it "needs to outperform expectations to justify its hefty price tag."

If we go by the not wholly accurate "2.5x budget" rule, Marvel Studios' latest blockbuster needs to make $450 million to break even without marketing costs taken into account. With them, it's more like $700 million. 

We'll see what happens, but Thunderbolts* has to contend with Final Destination Bloodlines next weekend before Lilo & Stitch and Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning come along and dominate the long Memorial Day holiday. 

Ultimately, Thunderbolts* is expected to end its run with $405 million - $445 million. This begs the question of whether, surprise be damned, it should have been marketed as The New Avengers from the start.

In Thunderbolts*, Marvel Studios assembles an unconventional team of antiheroes - Yelena Belova, Bucky Barnes, Red Guardian, Ghost, Taskmaster and John Walker. After finding themselves ensnared in a death trap set by Valentina Allegra de Fontaine, these disillusioned castoffs must embark on a dangerous mission that will force them to confront the darkest corners of their pasts.

Will this dysfunctional group tear themselves apart, or find redemption and unite as something much more before it’s too late?

"Thunderbolts* redefines superhero storytelling to deliver a moving and powerful story that does for the 'Multiverse Saga' what The Avengers did for the 'Infinity Saga' in 2012," we said in our review. "These heroes have earned their place on a Wheaties box."

The cast of Thunderbolts* will be led by Florence Pugh as Yelena Boleva, Sebastian Stan as Bucky Barnes, David Harbour as Red Guardian, Wyatt Russell as U.S. Agent, Hannah John-Kamen as Ghost, Olga Kurylenko as Taskmaster, Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Valentina Allegra de Fontaine, and Lewis Pullman as "Bob."

Written by Eric Pearson, Lee Sung Jin, and Joanna Calo, and directed by Jake Schreier, Thunderbolts* is now playing in theaters.

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JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 5/11/2025, 6:22 PM
This is what we in the real world call a flop.
SuperiorHeckler
SuperiorHeckler - 5/11/2025, 7:19 PM
@JacobsLadder - But Josh will continue to regurgitate the "But it got good reviews!" defense until the cows come home. Personally, I've heard nothing but positive word-of-mouth. But (as noted in the article itself) it may take isolated 'Event Films' to draw-in the crazy attendance and box-office numbers that they really haven't seen consistently since the 'Marvel-Rules-The-World' days of the Infinity Saga. 🤨
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 5/11/2025, 6:47 PM
It's already a flop and behind even Captain Falcon. Inflation has soared so much since 2020 that we often think of current movie numbers like it's still 2020 or 2018.

Thunderbolt's 10 day domestic total of $128,454,195 would be $110,213,699 in 2018 dollars.

Halloween 2018 10 day domestic total...$126,075,470 which would be $146,877,923 in 2025.

A new low point for Marvel when one of their big summer movies with over $100 million in promotion behind it, is selling less tickets in the USA than a Halloween movie.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 5/11/2025, 8:34 PM
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dragon316
dragon316 - 5/11/2025, 6:58 PM
Movie deserves be success is not becoming successful
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 5/12/2025, 2:16 AM
@dragon316 - It's a fair movie but it's movie #36. It looks like 35 other movies. It's part of a TV series in theaters that's been dragging on for 17 years.
ptick
ptick - 5/11/2025, 7:00 PM
It should have been released before CABNW (narratively this would have only required a few small changes). It would have dodged the BNW blowback and its word of mouth could have carried it longer in a less busy movie season. But that would have meant letting BNW take an absolute beating in a more competitive time of year. And Marvel/Disney weren't going to drop a CA film in May and have if bomb - they'd rather that happen in February and hope people would forget about.

They had to know this was likely to hurt Thunderbolts* - the play here was dumping BNW in February and hoping, regardless of the money it made, that Thunderbolts* critical success would wipe away the bad taste from BNW and lead into better numbers for FFFS. We'll see if that's the case. I personally think they'd have been better off dumping BNW in May and quickly moving past it to promote FFFS.
RockReigns
RockReigns - 5/11/2025, 7:03 PM
These numbers would be great for an $85 million motion picture. Not for a movie that cost 120% more than that.

Guess the WOM and lame “The New Avengers” didn’t pay off.

Back to the drawing board.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 5/11/2025, 7:06 PM
Well a valid question would be, “Is the movie good or is it just better that what we’ve scene in the more recent past”?
Thunderbolts was actually fine in my opinion. It was on the same level as Black Widow to me. I enjoyed it more than Captain America: BRAVE NEW WORLD.
SuperiorHeckler
SuperiorHeckler - 5/11/2025, 7:22 PM
@WruceBayne - “Is the movie good or is it just better that what we’ve scene in the more recent past?" An excellent and succinct point Mr. Bayne! 🤓
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 5/11/2025, 9:57 PM
@SuperiorHeckler - It should’ve said “seen”.
Order66
Order66 - 5/11/2025, 7:07 PM
I loved this movie. Felt like it was a phase 1-3 type of movie.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/11/2025, 11:59 PM
@Order66 -

Nah.

It had too many raceswaps and genderswaps to be a phase 1 movie.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/12/2025, 12:00 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea -

And roo much girlbossing and making men look bad.
Rpendo
Rpendo - 5/12/2025, 12:18 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - roo?
ManDeth
ManDeth - 5/11/2025, 7:07 PM
Looking at that image above gives me a little idea of what maybe would have been a much more enjoyable 'New Avengers' movie.

Instead of the characters having an adventure and then being labelled The New Avengers, it could've been a movie with misfit characters trying to be The New Avengers while no one believes in them even after they score names, costumes, the original Avengers HQ. But some villains see the name and decide to build up their own reps by kicking their asses. Maybe even idiots who have super abilities or a special suit who have online followings and they tell their followers they'll livestream themselves kicking their butts. Some light stuff with no big cosmic plot or a plot to destroy a city. There could be a couple characters split when things get rough or they realize they can't do a team thing now or relocate to NYC.

It could've introduced obscure characters like Speedball, Rocket Racer, Demolition Man, Nighthawk, Starhawk.

Maybe even zany stuff like they try to enlist someone like Daredevil and end up fighting him after they track him down and he refuses to join.

Then like we've seen in movies from Ghostbusters to Avengers, a big threat emerges and they have to be legit or die. And then they prove their value to the public.

I think something like that might've been a more fun way to get to the same point at the end.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/11/2025, 7:23 PM
See , this is the things for me…

How is it obvious that BNW wasn’t that well liked by audiences when for example , its audience rating on RT is 78% which means majority were positive on it?.

Don’t get me wrong , I found BNW enjoyable but Thunderbolts was the better film imo but it’s just something that’s irked me given the official measurements we have had have given it a decent response at the least.

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I think ultimately streaming (especially these shortened digital release windows) have made audiences wanting to see more movies from the comfort of their homes rather then in theaters with expensive prices etc.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 5/11/2025, 8:07 PM
@TheVisionary25 — People bring up inflation and this, that, and the other, but won't bring up the fact that things have changed significantly since COVID. People got used to being in the house and watching things. The box office has never recovered. Things are too expensive, just like you said.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/11/2025, 9:51 PM
@MyCoolYoung - agreed

Pandemic has changed certain things likely forever or a long while.
movieguy18
movieguy18 - 5/11/2025, 7:24 PM
Yes, it will most likely lose money but does anyone else see this as a win? Sure, financially it’s not a home run but all of these characters came from Black Widow, Falcon/Winter Soldier and Ant-Man 2 so I think it’s a win in my book. People love Florence Pugh even more, Pullman killed it and Stan/Kamen/Russel/Dreyfus/Harbour were all great. Solid introduction and hopefully they can build off of it. This is the first movie in the “new age of the MCU” so let’s get excited and be grateful that it was an amazing movie!
Mercwitham0uth
Mercwitham0uth - 5/11/2025, 7:29 PM
Just got back from seeing it. It was pretty damn good.
Kadara
Kadara - 5/11/2025, 7:35 PM
@Mercwitham0uth - Right? At the end that's all that matters. I have no idea why people are expecting it to break records or save Marvel.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/11/2025, 7:55 PM
@Kadara - if only this were true.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 5/12/2025, 12:02 AM
@Kadara -

Don't be disingenuous.

No one expects a 2020s MCU movie to break records.

Just not bomb.

Disney tentpole movies should not be bombing.

But liberal hackfraud media makers want bombs.
Kadara
Kadara - 5/11/2025, 7:36 PM
@gambgel - Bingo 💯
OriginalGusto1
OriginalGusto1 - 5/11/2025, 9:54 PM
There's only one thing that can save Marel...my underpants.
gambgel
gambgel - 5/11/2025, 7:36 PM
Not all comicbookmovies are meant to make huge money, studios know this.

This movie was made to present this particular team to general audience and then jump to Doomsday and Future avengers movies. this isnt the beggning of a new franchise, just expanding the MCU world in the journey to the big events.

the IPs that really matter moving forward are Fantastic Four, Spiderman, X-Men and Avengers, with some solo movies here and there from time to time, but the big leagues are and will always be the big leagues.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 5/11/2025, 7:39 PM
Like I've said before, the bean counters don't care. Lilo and Stich, Zootopia 2 and Avatar 3 will bring in AT LEAST 3 billion, so a slight loss on this won't matter. F4 should be their money back as long as it's good. I'm just glad this movie actually tried. Easily in my top 10 all time for the MCU, and I'm a [frick]ing stickler for these movies. More like these Feige! Less generic slop
String
String - 5/11/2025, 7:58 PM
Currently, Thunderbolts has made $136M on a $180M budget. Theaters take roughly 50% of the box office. In order to make back its budget, Thunderbolts needs to make another $88M to at least make its budget back. It also needs roughly $100M for promotion. To make another $188M would be doable since Disney films have long theater windows but once Lilo & Stitch and Mission Impossible start up I doubt Thunderbolts is going to make up that number in a crowded market. Disney will push Lilo and Stitch which will take a lot of Thunderbolts' screens so with smaller screen numbers I just don't see Thunderbolts ultimately pulling a profit.

I think there are two major factors going against Thunderbolts. The failure of 'Brave New World' in the marketplace and 'Sinners'. Nobody anticipated 'Sinners' doing as well as it is doing domestically. I doubt WB did. 'Sinners' is a domestic phenomenon. It breaks almost 76 percent domestically! 'Sinners' is doing terrible overseas with less than 25% but it more than makes up for it in the United States. If 'Sinners' wasn't holding up as well as it is and 'Brave New World' did a fraction better, 'Thunderbolts' would be well over $300M by now. I mean, 'Sinners' has $200M domestic. You would have to believe some of that domestic take would have swung to 'Thunderbolts' favor. Although Thunderbolts will ultimately make more money or at least be comparative to 'Sinners', the latter film is the reason why Thunderbolts won't turn a profit back despite its positive audience scores and high cinema score.

Regarding Disney being upset if Thunderbolts doesn't make a profit. I think they will be disappointed but not upset. Lilo and Stitch is expected to be DIsney's big film for May. As a company, I think they're just happy with the positive critics and audience scores for Thunderbolts and the film didn't outright bomb. Lilo and Stitch will more than make up any potential loss Thunderbolts may ultimately have.

Next weekend, I expect Final Destination: Bloodlines to win the Box Office with Thunderbolts and Sinners competing for second place. If 'Thunderbolts' holds up in its 3rd frame against 'Sinners' 5th frame, then I'll revise my expectations.
ManDeth
ManDeth - 5/11/2025, 9:05 PM
@String - Thunderbolts has at least a $100 million promo budget. It needs to make $560 million just for Disney to break even.
OriginalGusto1
OriginalGusto1 - 5/11/2025, 9:55 PM
@String - You have a lot of free time.
TheShellyMan
TheShellyMan - 5/11/2025, 8:13 PM
It's a good movie, such a shame this movie is a flop.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 5/11/2025, 8:40 PM
Eh maybe I’m in the minority but I didn’t find it as a sign marvel improving. It just wasn’t as bad as the marvels or eternals. But it was still maybe as good as antman or Thor 1 which isn’t really a compliment.

Pacing was terrible. Editing was terrible. Direction was terrible. Pullman was great. Red Guardian was good. The depression motif was good and the third act was different than normal marvel third act but otherwise it still had the same campy Tony stark dialogue in every character even when it doesn’t make sense. Yelena is supposed to be depressed but she never really sells that. She just acts like her normal self and just tells us she’s depressed rather than than SHOWING us she’s depressed.

Maybe we should have seen her FAIL her mission in the beginning which makes her question her mental wellbeing and Fontaine realize she’s not useful anymore which leads her to want to dispose of her. Small changes like this show the difference between a bad writer and a good writer.
vtopa
vtopa - 5/11/2025, 8:49 PM
Its an excellent flick. A cohesive story with no plotholes. Loved it.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 5/11/2025, 8:56 PM
the movie was.... ok..ish/enjoyable, aside from them consistently sh1tting on John Walker and trying to rewrite Marvel's history by claiming he killed an innocent man and not a phucking terrorist that had just tried to kill him.
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J0HNS0N
J0HNS0N - 5/11/2025, 8:59 PM
@harryba11zack - At least he defended himself with the "define innocent?". I could imagine that the media portrayed it one way, and that's the story people would have heard in-universe. But yeah #WalkerDidNothingWrong
Rpendo
Rpendo - 5/12/2025, 12:22 AM
@harryba11zack - I mean, the guy was defenseless, begging for his life, attempting a retreat…
J0HNS0N
J0HNS0N - 5/11/2025, 8:56 PM
I like this movie quite a bit. Whether it turns a profit or not, it being a solid movie might help repair some of the faith in the marvel product, which means more people tuning in down the road.
Oberlin4Prez
Oberlin4Prez - 5/11/2025, 9:15 PM
I love reading josh's cope.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 5/11/2025, 9:31 PM
It looks like Iron Man 2 quality (I LIKE IM2) but it's NOT A [frick]ING HIT.

IT'S NOT THE RETURN OF THE MCU.

The MCU is [frick]ING DEAD.

I will gladly take the occasional cameofest fanjob happy ending blockbuster but the cohesive MCU that was truly something to Marvel at (pun intended) is LONG [frick]ING GONE.

The endless spray of dogshit content made by DEI hires that never read comics [frick]ed it up and there is no combination of events that will pull it out of the ditch or make it respectable.

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