DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Directors Reveal Original Pre-Overhaul Opening And Tease Foggy Nelson's Future

DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Directors Reveal Original Pre-Overhaul Opening And Tease Foggy Nelson's Future

Daredevil: Born Again’s directing team has revealed how the show originally opened, and it’s a lot different from what we got in the overhauled version. We also have comments on Foggy’s possible return.

By JoshWilding - Apr 18, 2025 10:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

While Daredevil: Born Again's creative overhaul continues to make headlines, we still know relatively little about what the series originally looked like (though there have been plenty of rumours claiming to shed light on the matter). 

We've heard that Foggy Nelson was going to die off-screen, with no Bullseye and zero connections to the original Netflix series. Instead, the lawyer was going to die at the hands of one of the corrupt cops who worship The Punisher. 

The Hollywood Reporter recently spoke with Daredevil: Born Again's roster of directors, and Aaron Moorhead revealed how the series started before they came in and reshot the pilot. 

"This is something kind of juicy," he started. "During the first round of shooting, there was a shot that isn’t in any of [Daredevil: Born Again]. This shot used to open the show, I believe, and Matt was in the outfit. He then pulled off his mask, and he was just so unbelievably sad, crying and all that. Then he dropped the mask, and that was the whole scene."

Jeffrey Nachmanoff added that the scene was "by the water," and this not only confirms that Elden Henson wasn't set to return, but that the show's costumed action was going to be very minimal. It's previously been reported that Matt Murdock wouldn't suit up again until as late as the finale.

Talking of Foggy, theories that he'll be revealed as alive continue to run rampant, with fans spotting an apparent nod to a comic where he's revealed to be in witness protection after being murdered (the #468 address next to the Nelson, Murdock and Page law office). 

To that, Moorhead said, "I’ve heard this theory, you eagle-eyed geniuses. I would love to tell you, however, Marvel will snipe me if I say anything else. But what is really nice about Daredevil being a street-level superhero is that, generally, the supernatural doesn’t really interact with this universe as much, even though it is within the MCU."

"So that often gives much stronger consequences where punches hurt more and blood means more and getting hurt means more and dying very often does mean that you’re actually dead. But that’s all I can say," he added.

As great as it would be to see Foggy return, we wouldn't bank on it as it risks cheapening much of what we saw in season 1.

Yes, Daredevil would still want to take Vanessa Fisk down for ordering the hit, but if Foggy didn't really die, does it matter as much? There are ways to make it work, though, so we'll see. For now, flashbacks seem most likely if Henson does come back.

"A masterpiece of epic proportions, Daredevil: Born Again delivers a powerful, unmissable take on the Man Without Fear," we said in our review"Putting street-level heroics on the map in a way that promises to change the MCU forever, the show is sublime superhero storytelling on a whole new level."

All episodes of Daredevil: Born Again are now streaming on Disney+.

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slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 4/18/2025, 11:04 AM
Wasn’t the whole plot with the hand on the super natural side???

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YonnyLayna
YonnyLayna - 4/18/2025, 11:50 AM
@slickrickdesigns - Is like they took 2 steps back.
ptick
ptick - 4/18/2025, 11:57 AM
@slickrickdesigns - The Hand and pretty much everything to do with Iron Fist, too.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/18/2025, 1:49 PM
@slickrickdesigns - User Comment Image
fanboy03191
fanboy03191 - 4/18/2025, 11:06 AM
Sorry but Foggy needs to stay dead.
FrankenDad
FrankenDad - 4/18/2025, 12:25 PM
@fanboy03191 - Yep. Matt doesn’t need a shoulder Angel giving him any grief over his second job.
JstaKIDfrmBKLYN
JstaKIDfrmBKLYN - 4/18/2025, 12:47 PM
@fanboy03191 - As much as I would hate it, I agree.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 4/18/2025, 11:17 AM
Original: Matt doesn’t re-costume up until near the finale

New: Matt doesn’t re-costume up until near the finale

So why is this better
MisterBones
MisterBones - 4/18/2025, 11:33 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - Matt should’ve thrown himself into being DD after a major death, in my opinion
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 4/18/2025, 11:35 AM
@MisterBones - feel like he’s done both in the comics , either goes overboard being DD or tries too hard to be normal lawyer man
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 4/18/2025, 12:46 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - because it was originally 18 episodes. So instead of 6 episodes without Daredevil, it would've been 16. Still, I didn't miss it since the rest of the show was engaging enough
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 4/18/2025, 12:59 PM
@bkmeijer1 - ahhh gotcha
dagenspear
dagenspear - 4/18/2025, 1:09 PM
@MisterBones - But he kinds did that in season 3. Then again, he also retired in Defenders, so pfft.
MisterBones
MisterBones - 4/18/2025, 11:29 AM
The original showrunners should be TRIED IN A COURT OF LAW for this bullshit
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 4/18/2025, 12:22 PM
@MisterBones - No Daredevil until the finale!? Shame on them.
YonnyLayna
YonnyLayna - 4/18/2025, 11:47 AM
Supernatural should have been explored on this season with Héctor Ayala's amulet and Muse.
CAPTAINPINKEYE
CAPTAINPINKEYE - 4/18/2025, 12:11 PM
I was enjoying this season up until the last episode. Just bad writing. All of a sudden there are hundreds of "criminal" police? Trying to take Punisher alive to say they admire him? Even after he just killed 10 of them? Castle was so easily ambushed? Fisk put all these wealthy people in cages? Matt's apartment blows up and his girlfriend is shaking Fisk's hand the next day? Even though Matt was telling her in just the last episode that he's dangerous? She didn't put two and two together?

Sorry but just too much. Too much stupidity. Epic fail.
DTor91
DTor91 - 4/18/2025, 12:26 PM
@CAPTAINPINKEYE - “ All of a sudden there are hundreds of "criminal" police? Trying to take Punisher alive to say they admire him? Even after he just killed 10 of them?” If you’re tasked with taking down vigilantes by any means necessary, and the main guy whose symbol they’re all trying to rip from took out ten single handedly…why would you not try and get him on your side?

“ She didn't put two and two together?” We don’t know that she doesn’t, but there’s enough context there that she knows something is up, and given her profession, likely does know. She’s also made it very clear that she doesn’t condone vigilantism and the Muse situation did not help.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 4/18/2025, 1:08 PM
@DTor91 - Because cops are pretty notoriously, as far as I've viewed, seen as a pretty vindictive frat house of people, who don't side with someone who brutally massacres a lot of them. On top of that, humans tend to be aggressively against people who murder their allies and/or friends.
ApricotLogic
ApricotLogic - 4/18/2025, 3:13 PM
@DTor91 - Exactly — it’s not about admiring him, it’s about damage control. If you're facing a symbol that has real pull with rogue cops and vigilantes, and that symbol just dismantled your squad like nothing, flipping him makes more tactical sense than trying to take him down the hard way. It's pragmatic, not praise.

And yeah, as for her — I don’t think she’s clueless either. She’s sharp, and while she might not have the full picture, she’s definitely picking up on the vibe. But her stance on vigilantism is solid, and with the Muse fallout still lingering, she’s not going to jump to any leniency just because something feels familiar.
CAPTAINPINKEYE
CAPTAINPINKEYE - 4/18/2025, 12:13 PM
And I'm pretty sure the mayor can't declare martial law. And the military would come in and take control.
DTor91
DTor91 - 4/18/2025, 12:28 PM
@CAPTAINPINKEYE - There’s a great Grant Morrison quote:
“ "Adults...struggle desperately with fiction, demanding constantly that it conform to the rules of everyday life.
Adults foolishly demand to know how Superman can possibly fly, or how
Batman can possibly run a
multibillion-dollar business empire during the day and fight crime at night, when the answer is obvious even to the smallest child: because it's not real."

This is the MCU. Matt was on a trial arguing over a mystical amulet.
Not to mention, of all the things here, this isn’t all that far removed from reality these days.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 4/18/2025, 1:05 PM
@DTor91 - You're taking 2 fairly different aspects of writing, to me, and seeming to try and argue they're similar. One is believability in premise of superheroes and their powers, the others is legal and government perimeters. A big enough part of this show is built on legal perimeters and all that. So I think your comparison doesn't really much a apply like that.

When did a mayor declare martial law, how is that not far removed from reality.
CAPTAINPINKEYE
CAPTAINPINKEYE - 4/18/2025, 2:06 PM
@DTor91 - Those stupid adults.

I for one like the question things. This is how I never end up in a bad situation. Like if I’m gonna have a threesome with a girl and another guy is there a chance she’s gonna put both of our dicks in your mouth? Yes, so I don’t do it. That’s why all my threesomes are just with my imagination.
DTor91
DTor91 - 4/18/2025, 12:20 PM
I’m of the mind that Foggy is truly dead, but then why dance around it instead of definitively confirm it if it’s really meant to be? The season is over, it wouldn’t ruin any of the context within the realm of the season.

So needless to say…..maybe there is the possibility.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 4/18/2025, 12:35 PM
@DTor91 - One you don't spoil when we have only had half the story, sure they split it into two chunks but the Foggy story isn't full done (what with the reason and person behind the hit only just revealed). Secondly why conclusively rule anything out when they could do the witness protection source accurate reason for the fake out but also when the potential Secret Wars ramifications could result in a number of thing changing due to however they reboot after that (likely soft but even then if merging timelines anyone could return thru variants such that we get the Fsvreau version back instead).
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/18/2025, 12:36 PM
Interesting…

I’m glad they decided to actually bring back Elden Henson and show Foggy’s death since it was more impactful imo then telling us he died offscreen.

Plus with the original version not being attached to the Netflix show , we don’t even know if it would have been the same Foggy or not so we may or may not even have had that connection to him.

Also after the finale , I think Foggy is definitely dead which sucks since I liked him but atleast his death was a throughline this season.
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 4/18/2025, 3:27 PM
We were catfished
Matchesz
Matchesz - 4/18/2025, 9:19 PM
Now that i'm trying to think about it have we even ever had Daredevil in full costume out in the middle of the day?
Whatthefudge
Whatthefudge - 4/19/2025, 1:29 AM
Foggy is dead. Matt hearing his heart stop beating and then fast forwarding a year later shortly after was enough for me to believe they moved on from him. His being alive wouldn't make any sense at all, while his death has meaning in season one.

They have a huge season coming up that's going to have a lot old, familiar faces. More than likely, agents of shield, the Defenders, the young Avengers and maybe even a few more cameos will show up in season two. There's no reason for Foggy to be alive, it would be an unnecessary side story. Some characters die, that's just how it is. It's not even really about the characters who die but how their deaths affect others. That's their real significance. Foggy dying pushed Matt to a point where he attempted to kill Dex. That line was nearly crossed.

Im kind of split when it comes to this season. It had highs and lows, but I think it's paved a way for a very exciting season two. Season one had a lot of potential but fell short, in many different ways. One of the biggest let downs was Muse. That whole season should have been about him. For a man who killed 80 or so people, he had the smallest amount of screen time out of them all. They totally blew it with him.

I'm a bit tired of Fisk. It's the same old storyline with him. They need to move on from him. Hopefully, season two is the end of him. What else could his character do that's new and original? It's time to move past the fat man. Pointdexter is more interesting than him, by a longshot;)

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