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Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 1/14/2021, 2:31 AM
"That's one of the fun things about the comics is that characters would appear and disappear and come and go."

lel, Kev be like: Now you see em...now you don't....ever again!!!😂
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 1/14/2021, 2:38 AM
Kev when he has to recast Iron Fist:


Ta-daaa, disappeared!

Hopefully doc is not reading this. :P
dragon316
dragon316 - 1/14/2021, 4:35 AM
@Doomsday8888 - what happen to that stupid villain stilt man, spot, shocker is he dead
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 1/14/2021, 2:32 AM
Call me naive, but knowing there’s some die hard fans out there that want the return of the Netflix cast, it’s definitely not like Feige to keep teasing their return to only disappoint...

It’s because of these comments that I’m now 65% sure there’s at least talks happening...
Origame
Origame - 1/14/2021, 3:48 AM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - oh yeah I'm not denying talks. But if they can't work these characters into the plan it ain't happening. Outside of daredevil and (maybe) Jessica Jones, I really can't see them pulling a Spiderman and move around projects to bring these characters into the spotlight. And even then I don't see them as popular enough to pull a Deadpool by keeping an r rating, which these definitely should have.
Kurne
Kurne - 1/14/2021, 3:54 AM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - he could just be refraining from disappointing everyone that the characters will be rebooted... but that being said, Feige's been pretty blunt about other things in the past, and I really do feel like he'd have flat out said "we're rebooting them/the Netflix shows were their own thing" by now.

Especially considering how many times he's had to answer the question as of late.
JDL
JDL - 1/14/2021, 6:32 AM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - The conventional wisdom has been that Disney would do nothing that ended up promoting IP that Netflix owns now and will continue to own. That would mean that unless Disney bought the shows from Netflix they were dead and presumably the cast/character combinations as well.

That was before all of the "news" concerning Sony's old Spidey movies. If Disney is seriously considering that sort of deal with Sony then a deal with Netflix is not as impossible as I once would have thought.
JDL
JDL - 1/14/2021, 6:37 AM
@Origame - What if they did D+ shows instead of movies ? How about a bunch of shows that happen during the Snap ? The reason I say D+ is that they will need IP and the Netflix shows can certainly add to that being street level don't have to involve much of the movie side of things.
Origame
Origame - 1/14/2021, 6:43 AM
@JDL - problem is they have a bunch of shows, both being developed and in the planning stage, that are part of what's on his planning board going into 2029. You still need to adjust things to avoid digging into other project's profits. You still have to consider yearly budgets that limit how many shows and at how much of a budget each show gets. In fact that's why I specifically didn't mention anything like movies or shows, because they could go either way and the problem would be constant.
JDL
JDL - 1/14/2021, 9:32 AM
@Origame -
1) Unless they jack up the budgets a LOT from what they did with Netflix
($2M per for most) that's not a problem for a TV show. Movies would be another story of course.

2) Given the paucity of new, non kiddie content, more stuff is badly needed.

As I said in my OP being street level makes them cleaner as far as planning goes but as always YMMV.
Origame
Origame - 1/14/2021, 12:40 PM
@JDL - 1) it's gonna be accumulated budget, since the episode count is in Flux. But even then, yes. These episodes are more expensive per episode. Did you see falcon and the winter soldier trailer? Ain't no way you're doing that on a daredevil budget.

2) not really. Most of the demand is for the r rated content already made that Disney now owns.
JDL
JDL - 1/15/2021, 9:13 AM
@Origame - 1) I'm aware of the high cost that's been bandied about of the D+ series. What I'm saying is that those high costs are unnecessary for material like the Netflix material. You don't need $25M per episode for this kind of material.

2)"not really. Most of the demand is for the r rated content already made that Disney now owns."

This makes no sense unless there's a word mix-up here. Disney got no content back with the end of the Netflix deal. What they got back was the limited access to their IP that Netflix had bought. They way you phrased your reply would seem to say otherwise because the word "content" in this context would refer to the actual Netflix shows.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 1/14/2021, 2:33 AM
Kathleen Kennedy would have nixed our hopes altogether. This producer on the other hand is a mighty fine one who made his way with a box of scraps.
SnideCut
SnideCut - 1/14/2021, 3:02 AM
@JFerguson - You mean the same Kathleen Kennedy that produced Rogue One and the Mandalorian?
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 1/14/2021, 3:31 AM
@SnideCut - no, we’re talking about the same Kathleen Kennedy that’s went through more directors than Law & Order.

As for Mando... that’s sus
Origame
Origame - 1/14/2021, 3:50 AM
@JFerguson - I mean, you're probably gonna end up more disappointed if after all this "we're working it out" only for us to get to the point where they just don't happen.

Kyos
Kyos - 1/14/2021, 4:30 AM
@SnideCut - More like the same Kennedy that produced the flopped Solo, on which she fired the popular directors after 80% of shooting. Or the one that produced the sequel trilogy, which as a whole ultimately managed to satisfy almost nobody. And it's not like Rogue One itself was exactly a smooth production.
SnideCut
SnideCut - 1/14/2021, 4:46 AM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - She produces Mandalorian. There's no show without here say-so.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 1/14/2021, 5:30 AM
@SnideCut - People always say that as if it excuses her other mistakes. Yes, she made a good decision commissioning Mando and selecting the right talent. But she selected the wrong talent for all the other films so I still think it balances out. She's just not a very good producer.
Armageddon26
Armageddon26 - 1/14/2021, 6:53 AM
@JFerguson - Weird to bring up Kathleen in this context when one of the best aspects of Star Wars is how they’ve connected their shows and movies for the last few years
SnideCut
SnideCut - 1/14/2021, 9:08 AM
@Nightwing1015 - She's the woman who produced Jurassic Park, Munich, ET, The Indiana Jones Trilogy, The Sixth Sense, The Color Purple, Schindlers List among many, MANY others. Some butthurt fanboys saying she's not a good producer does not make it fact.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 1/14/2021, 10:12 AM
@SnideCut - Well as soon as she had that chance on the sequel trilogy she fricked it up. That's pretty damning. And yeah she's had successes. But when it mattered and she was put in TOTAL control, she didn't make the right choices. Maybe the difference with those other movies is there were other people in charge also.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 1/14/2021, 10:13 AM
@SnideCut - Also Lucas directed Star Wars, and THX but after the prequels can people call him a good director??
SnideCut
SnideCut - 1/14/2021, 10:25 AM
@Nightwing1015 - Dude. She was the PRODUCER on a ton of the movies I mentioned. She was the one in charge. Don't try and belittle her accomplishments simply because you didn't like 3 films she produced.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 1/14/2021, 10:38 AM
@SnideCut - "She was the one in charge"

Well obviously that statement is misleading. That's what I mean. Speilberg/Lucas held most of the creative control. I'm not diminishing the good she did on those projects, I'm just pointing out that when it was time for her to take over full control, she made a ton of bad decisions.

At the end of the day somebody has to take responsibility for the sequel trilogy. And while I don't blame her the most I don't think it would be a good idea to reward bad decisions with a contract extension. But I guess we'll see what happens because her contract is up in 2021 I think...
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 1/14/2021, 1:36 PM
@SnideCut - she produces it, she’s not responsible for its success. Let’s not pretend here.
SnideCut
SnideCut - 1/14/2021, 3:09 PM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - So when she produce something you don't like, its totally her fault but if she produces something you like, she doesn't deserve the credit? Your logic is truly mind-blowing.
SnideCut
SnideCut - 1/14/2021, 3:10 PM
@Nightwing1015 - You have absolutely no way of knowing just how much control she had over any of the projects though. Whether it be the ones she produced in the past or the ones she produces now.
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 1/14/2021, 4:03 PM
@SnideCut - how about we use that same logic against itself then, to help you better understand.

For five years straight, over multiple projects - KK very unprofessionally struck up multiple deals with Directors to direct multiple projects. Deals, that any producer would’ve combed over in many details, especially making sure they agree in principle - what the film was going to be about.

But not just on one occasion, multiple - Directors lefts due to creative problems. Again, not just ONCE, but MULTIPLE times. That’s the sign of weak producing qualities.

Now, do I think KK is a terrible producer? Absolutely not. Spielberg said she was one of the best working producers to collaborate with a leading Directors vision.

But that’s exactly what she is, she’s great at working and collaborating with a Director who’s got full creative control, like a Spielberg type. Like a Zemeckis type. Like a Donner type. Like Dante type. Like a Favreau type. And so on...

Now, look at the all Directors she’s worked, as well as failed to work with in Star Wars, where she’s dropped the ball. So many new, talented directors, that she failed to manage from the get go, either in production or out with. The amount of Directors that got sacked mid way through shooting, replaced by other Directors in reshoots. It’s absolutely baffling how unprofessional her track record within Star Wars is. Go do your research, it’s literally all there in black and white.

Where her issues stand, is being in control of a full studio, being the head organiser of where projects go, and what stories she wants told - and especially what fresh directors she wants to work with. She’s failed so badly as a producer in this area, that it’s cost her many setbacks, in quality, in track record, and in stories.

Now, if that doesn’t give you a solidified response to why KK is definitely on an uphill battle to restore the Star Wars name, then perhaps you really need to go way up the pros and cons a bit more seriously.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 1/14/2021, 4:17 PM
@SnideCut - "Whether it be the ones she produced in the past or the ones she produces now."

Well I think it's an obvious safe bet to say she has a high control over projects now given that she's the frickin head of Lucasfilm. At the end of the day, it's a binary choice - extend her contract or don't extend it. And given her controversial mismanagement of the franchise, I'd say somebody has to take responsibility and that has to be her given that she is the "top dog" at Lucasfilm. I'd be surprised to see her contract extended. But I guess time will tell
dracula
dracula - 1/14/2021, 2:33 AM
Only one id want back is charlie cox
bobevanz
bobevanz - 1/14/2021, 2:36 AM
It would be more to see them return, maybe in multiverse of madness
bobevanz
bobevanz - 1/14/2021, 2:37 AM
@bobevanz - nice* I'll sell my soul for an edit button lol
Blergh
Blergh - 1/14/2021, 2:43 AM
Wouldn't mind Ritter, Cox and Coulter to return. Finn Jones a little less but sure, why not?

It genuinely seems like a smart choice to bring back the actors behind the shows but not to acknowledge the shows as canon. Semi rebooting them without showing the characters origins like with Spider-Man
Spike101
Spike101 - 1/14/2021, 2:45 AM
Sure they along with all the supporting cast would make excellent additions to the MCU
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 1/14/2021, 2:50 AM
I want the netflix Bullseye just as much as DD and Kingpin. Damn that Bullseye was perfect.
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