Netflix's Marvel Shows Have Been Officially Added To The MCU Timeline On Disney+

Netflix's Marvel Shows Have Been Officially Added To The MCU Timeline On Disney+

The Marvel Cinematic Universe timeline on Disney+ has officially acknowledged that the six Netflix Marvel TV shows are part of the MCU's canon...

By MarkCassidy - Jan 10, 2024 11:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Defenders

A recent Kingpin-centric teaser for Echo included footage and dialogue from Netflix's long-defunct Daredevil, pretty much confirming that the Man Without Fear's solo series, along with the other "DefenderVerse" shows, are canon.

Now, Marvel Studios appears to have made it official by adding Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Defenders, and The Punisher to the Marvel Cinematic Universe timeline tab on Disney+.

Does this mean that we'll be seeing Finn Jones return as Iron Fist in the MCU down the line? Not necessarily.

Some spoilers for Echo follow.

While this does certainly indicate that the Netflix era's major plot lines and certain character arcs (we saw that Wilson Fisk's traumatic origin from Daredevil carried over in Echo, for example) will stick, it doesn't mean that every single aspect of these shows will inform what we see on Disney+.

As disappointing as this may be for some fans, adding the Netflix shows to the timeline simply allows Marvel Studios to cherry-pick what they want to utilize and ignore the rest.

We know that Jon Bernthal (Frank Castle) will rejoin Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio in Daredevil: Born Again, so it'll be interesting to see how much the events of Daredevil's three seasons influence the story.

Echo is the first project under a new banner known as Marvel Spotlight, which takes its name from an anthology comic book series that debuted back in 1971 and was the origin of beloved Marvel characters like Ghost Rider and Spider-Woman.

“Marvel Spotlight gives us a platform to bring more grounded, character-driven stories to the screen, and in the case of Echo, focusing on street-level stakes over larger MCU continuity," said Head of Streaming Brad Winderbaum. "Just like comics fans didn’t need to read Avengers or Fantastic Four to enjoy a Ghost Rider Spotlight comic, our audience doesn’t need to have seen other Marvel series to understand what’s happening in Maya’s story.”

"Marvel Studios presents Echo in which Maya Lopez (Alaqua Cox) struggles to reconnect with her Native American roots while balancing aspirations tied to a life of crime as successor to the brutal legacy of Wilson Fisk (Vincent D'Onofrio) aka Kingpin," reads the most recent synopsis. "In the first episode, we are introduced to Maya Lopez and her struggles."

In addition to Cox, D'Onofrio and Cox (Charlie), the show will also star Chaske Spencer as Henry, Tantoo Cardinal as Chula, Graham Greene as Skully, Cody Lightning as Cousin Biscuits, Devery Jacobs as Bonnie, and Zahn McClarnon as William Lopez.

The origin story of Echo revisits Maya Lopez (Cox), whose ruthless behaviour in New York City catches up with her in her hometown. She must face her past, reconnect with her Native American roots and embrace the meaning of family and community if she ever hopes to move forward.

All five episodes of Echo are now streaming on Disney+.

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lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 1/10/2024, 11:37 AM
Wow. Look at Disney starting to bend and be more realistic when it comes to its online streaming content.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/10/2024, 11:38 AM
Netflix's Marvel Shows Have Been Officially Added to The MCU Timeline on Disney+

GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/10/2024, 11:41 AM
Band aid move
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 1/10/2024, 11:47 AM
@GhostDog - As if we weren’t just talking about this 🥴
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/10/2024, 11:48 AM
@FireandBlood - get ready for a "What Netflix Marvel Now Being Canon Means for the MCU" article
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 1/10/2024, 11:41 AM
Lok, this is MCU canon now
Kurne
Kurne - 1/10/2024, 11:49 AM
@HashTagSwagg - Thor 2 and Love & Thunder are MCU canon forever as well. We've been living with it/we live with it.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 1/10/2024, 12:56 PM
@HashTagSwagg -

Nick Fury lost his eye to a cat scratch in the canon since 2019 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
JFerguson
JFerguson - 1/10/2024, 4:03 PM
@HashTagSwagg - there’s dragon bones under New York!

THERES DRAGON BONES UNDER NEW YORK
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 1/10/2024, 5:43 PM
@JFerguson -
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 1/10/2024, 11:45 AM
I’m guessing the marvel hate crew are probably going to make this out to be a bad thing.
I think all the Netflix defenders stuff was good enough. Iron Fist was the only part of the Netflix stuff I hope they overhaul severely. Danny Rand needs an actor who actually knows martial arts and does his own stunts.
mountainman
mountainman - 1/10/2024, 11:59 AM
@slickrickdesigns - Iron Fist was mostly bad and JJ seasons 2 were as well. The rest was amazing.
Origame
Origame - 1/10/2024, 12:07 PM
@slickrickdesigns - as someone lumped into that category, this is basically a nothing reveal. The Netflix shows were originally intended to be Canon, and only technically lost its status due to marvel not being clear what Charlie cox daredevil in the mcu meant in terms of the canon.
The1st
The1st - 1/10/2024, 1:02 PM
@slickrickdesigns - Yeah, imagine if they got the guy from warrior or something like. Just not Lewis Tan, although he was fun in Blood and Bone
Slotherin
Slotherin - 1/10/2024, 2:07 PM
@Origame - basically
tb86
tb86 - 1/10/2024, 11:45 AM
This is just confusing now. That MCU Timeline book from last year confirmed that those shows are not canon. Make up your minds will you. Does this mean whenever I rewatch the MCU I have to watch those now? Because while i do really like those shows (except for Iron Fist) they would be quite a chore to get through. With the Phase 4 & 5 shows they wouldn’t take to long like a day or two. I know know some people could probably binge watch an entire season of Daredevil in one day but I couldn’t.
DanFlashesShirt
DanFlashesShirt - 1/10/2024, 11:59 AM
@tb86 - definitely doesn’t mean that. I think they know that we know those shows inform DD/Kingpin but are by no means necessary.
Order66
Order66 - 1/10/2024, 12:48 PM
@tb86 - that book is useless now thanks to the D+ timeline. I would think D+ takes precedent over the book.
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 1/10/2024, 12:59 PM
@Order66 - I mean the book itself based its timeline on the D+ timeline, but the D+ also changed its timeline due to the book as they had Shang-Chi as happening in the summer of 2024, but book the said spring, so D+ changed it to spring. so seems both sides take precedent.
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 1/10/2024, 12:59 PM
@tb86 - The book actually has a way out, as there is a bit that says this book does not cover everything that happens in the sacred timeline, so that leaves the door open for them to add the shows in future editions.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/10/2024, 1:09 PM
@tb86 - Timeline guide books are oft useless as stuff can always be retconned in or out of canon at any given point, esp with stuff like comics or scifi where time travel and multiverse stuff are part of the mix, why I don't ever buy them.
SATW42
SATW42 - 1/10/2024, 1:22 PM
@tb86 - "Does this mean whenever I rewatch the MCU I have to watch those now?"

Who...who would make you do this?
Slotherin
Slotherin - 1/10/2024, 2:08 PM
@tb86 - how did it confirm them as non canon?
dagenspear
dagenspear - 1/10/2024, 2:18 PM
@SATW42 - We have to stop whoever is making people watch season 2 and 3 of Jessica Jones!
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 1/10/2024, 2:45 PM
@Apophis71 - Yeah, I wouldn't take a physical book as an absolute truth, especially if it's detailing a timeline that's still going. It'll have to be updated eventually.
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 1/10/2024, 3:31 PM
@tb86 - Or, I mean... maybe don't rewatch the whole MCU if some stuff feels like a chore? Just an idea.
tb86
tb86 - 1/10/2024, 4:25 PM
@Slotherin - I can't exactly remember where or how it was said sorry.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 1/10/2024, 11:45 AM
Good. It was always meant to be MCU canon and Daredevil S1-3 and Jessica Jones S1 are better than 95% of the rest of the MCU. With exception to Iron Fist, the shows also did a great job developing out the main characters and villains and it would be a waste to throw that away.

Welcome back!
Kurne
Kurne - 1/10/2024, 11:46 AM
I'll never understand why canon deniers were as aggressive as they were in the first place. It was so out of nowhere/completely unnecessary, lmao.
JDL
JDL - 1/10/2024, 4:49 PM
@Kurne - - I think it's because they really, really, disliked something in those shows and wanted it done their way or not at all.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 1/10/2024, 11:47 AM
The old marvel would either have done this a while ago or not at all
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 1/10/2024, 11:51 AM
@HeWhoBeatsDames - Considering the old Marvel never did this a while ago, I would bet on not at all.
Origame
Origame - 1/10/2024, 12:10 PM
@SpiderParker - ...well the marvel of old did that already. The shows were meant to be Canon since the beginning.

The plot of daredevil revolves around the instability and rise in crime after the battle in New York. Ben urich literally has articles in his office showing pics of both chitauri ships and hulk fighting in harlem.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/10/2024, 1:06 PM
@HeWhoBeatsDames - The old marvel was always very much the case of never throw anything out unless/until needed and having unconfirmed either way status meant it wasn't required viewing and still won't be. Even had Feige at one point state that crossovers from the Netflix and ABC shows were possible down the line back when they were still in production however. He simply added that difficult to work around production schedules as film are planned years in advance as opposed to FAR shorter production timelines for the shows.

They did all start out marketed as all connected, things drifting to a point where they were likely no longer canon or loose canon came later. Seems now as we are in a multiverse arc they will likely use them as LOOSE canon, as in can ignore and contradict what they want of them and just say the show were SIMILAR in many respects to what happened in the sacred timeline but not identical, zero point specificaly stating what is or isn't the same and what isn't until needed either way and recasting anyone on it's own wouldn't even confirm anything wasn't unless an undeniable change.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 1/10/2024, 1:59 PM
@Origame - They are two different production companies, thats like saying The Batman and DCU is meant to be canon or even Disney and PIXAR.

It's pretty much the same as Sony and Marvel. They share the characters but they don't necessarily belong in the same world even if one production company attempts to hijack into the space.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 1/10/2024, 2:12 PM
@Origame - exactly
They literally use the Battle of New York as part of the reason for the state that both Hells Kitchen and Harlem are in.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 1/10/2024, 2:13 PM
@SpiderParker - sure but the Netflix shows directly referenced the wider MCU as @Origame pointed out
Origame
Origame - 1/10/2024, 2:52 PM
@SpiderParker - your points make no sense considering the Netflix series directly references what happened in the avengers.

So what if it's different production companies? Literally all of the evil dead movies are owned by different companies and those are canon to each other.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 1/10/2024, 3:05 PM
@Slotherin @Origame - And Sony referenced MCU, how did that turn out? BTW, Evil Dead movies are all produced by the same production company.
Origame
Origame - 1/10/2024, 3:15 PM
@SpiderParker - you do realize the Netflix shows were made my marvel television, right?
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