ECHO Teaser Could Be Online VERY Soon - Here's What We're Likely To See

ECHO Teaser Could Be Online VERY Soon - Here's What We're Likely To See ECHO Teaser Could Be Online VERY Soon - Here's What We're Likely To See

Though nothing has been officially announced, Marvel Studios is rumored to debut the first teaser trailer for Echo either tomorrow or over the weekend, and we have a possible description of the footage...

By MarkCassidy - Nov 02, 2023 01:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Echo

Upcoming Disney+ Hawkeye spin-off, Echo, may not be up there among the most anticipated MCU projects on the horizon, but fans are looking forward to seeing Daredevil back in action, and it sounds like Marvel Studios will be counting on the Man Without Fear's popularity when it comes to promoting the series.

Though nothing has been officially announced, several online scoopers believe that the first teaser for Echo will be released online very soon, possibly even at some point tomorrow or over the weekend.

If this is accurate, we may get a brief confirmation promo later today, but for now, we may have some idea of what to expect from the teaser.

According to Can We Get Some Toast, we will see Wilson Fisk (Vincent D'Onofrio) and a young Maya Lopez (Alaqua Cox) getting some ice-cream in a flashback. The vendor somehow insults Maya due to her deafness, which does not sit well with the Kingpin, who "fixes the situation." Daredevil (Charlie Cox) is said to appear, but there's no mention of how he'll factor in to the footage.

"Marvel Studios presents Echo in which Maya Lopez (Alaqua Cox) struggles to reconnect with her Native American roots while balancing aspirations tied to a life of crime as successor to the brutal legacy of Wilson Fisk (Vincent D'Onofrio) aka Kingpin," reads the most recent synopsis. "In the first episode, we are introduced to Maya Lopez and her struggles."

In addition to Cox, D'Onofrio and Cox (Charlie), the show will also star Chaske Spencer as Henry, Tantoo Cardinal as Chula, Graham Greene as Skully, Cody Lightning as Cousin Biscuits, Devery Jacobs as Bonnie, and Zahn McClarnon as William Lopez.

The origin story of Echo revisits Maya Lopez (Cox), whose ruthless behaviour in New York City catches up with her in her hometown. She must face her past, reconnect with her Native American roots and embrace the meaning of family and community if she ever hopes to move forward.

Echo was originally scheduled to premiere later this month, but was recently pushed to January 2024, though no exact debut date has been announced.

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tmp3 - 11/2/2023, 1:32 PM
What we’re likely to see… another mid disney+ show? Haha
Variant - 11/2/2023, 1:43 PM
@tmp3 - The only truly mid project was Secret Invasion. Ms. Marvel and She-Hulk was divisive but a lot of folks liked those shows. Everything else has ranged from good to great. This is just the truth of the matter.
ClintThaHamster - 11/2/2023, 2:03 PM
@Variant - Ms Marvel and She-Hulk weren't even actually divisive outside of Twitter and shitty website comments sections. They're simply widely considered to be good-to-great.
marvel72 - 11/2/2023, 2:56 PM
@Variant -

CorndogBurglar - 11/2/2023, 3:18 PM
@Variant - The truth of the matter sounds a lot like an opinion, ironically enough.

Sure a lot of people liked Ms Marvel and She-Hulk. But a lot of people hated them too.

And Ms Marvel was the lowest watched show on D+ until Secret Invasion. Which is even worse, really, because that means people didn't even care enough to bother checking it out.
WakandanQueen - 11/2/2023, 1:35 PM
The potential dynamic between Kingpin and Echo interests me. This could be something special. But I don't have too much confidence in their shows that were finished pre-strike
Origame - 11/2/2023, 1:36 PM
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Variant - 11/2/2023, 1:44 PM
@Origame - It IS time to stop. It's time for you to stop complaining every day of your life. I think everyone here would greatly appreciate that.
Origame - 11/2/2023, 1:48 PM
@Variant - the white knighting is strong in you 🤣
Variant - 11/2/2023, 1:52 PM
@Origame - Hmm...let's see. Would I rather be a white knight or a whiney little twerp?

Dude, you really need to stop the whining every day. Who tf wants to be around that? You're the friend that people stop inviting over because you just bring the mood down. Do yourself a favor and find some damn positivity in your life. Jesus...
Origame - 11/2/2023, 2:00 PM
@Variant - let's see, speak my mind or defend secret invasion...

Ps. I specifically chose that because you actually said you didn't like it, but still went on to defend it. The fanboy is too strong in you.
Variant - 11/2/2023, 2:11 PM
@Origame - I never said I didn't like it. I did like it. I just didn't love it as I thought I would. And I would consider it "mid" when it had the potential to be excellent.

I know your brain only works in binary fashion, but I'm able to think in more than just polar opposites. I'm also not a little bitch so I don't complain about everything that doesn't satisfy my every expectation. I know how to take the positives from something and just enjoy that and move on with my life.

And when "speaking your mind" is only ever in the form of bitching and moaning, I'd say that's a pathetic mind set to have and still much more inferior than being a "white knight", as you like to call it.
KennKathleen - 11/2/2023, 2:27 PM
@Origame - 🙄😄 SERIOUSLY!!!




You send a joke about its time to stop, and this guy chimes in like you're the problem.


Face it Variant: the shows are not great, or good. They have hollow dialog, forgettable arcs, and miminual consequences. If you are interested in them- GOOD FOR YOU.

It's not cool to get this defensive when others are not so invested. To myself and many others, this is unimportant, uninteresting, no replay value, time wasters. Let it go.






bobevanz - 11/2/2023, 2:40 PM
@Variant - you're the friend who corrects and nitpicks everything, also the one who gets ditched on prom night lol
marvel72 - 11/2/2023, 2:59 PM
@Origame -

Origame - 11/2/2023, 3:09 PM
@Variant - nice backpeddling. You said you didn't like it dude. Even specifically called it a disappointment. And you said this in response to the claim that you can't find anything negative about the mcu. So this backpeddling just shows how much of a fanboy you are. The only thing bad you can say about it is one of the shows was just ok 🤣

And again, I say plenty positive. You've deliberately ignored when I praised other movies (including in the mcu world don't act like I'm only targeting them).
Origame - 11/2/2023, 3:10 PM
@KennKathleen - perfectly said
Origame - 11/2/2023, 3:10 PM
@marvel72 - he's truly maidenless.
Variant - 11/2/2023, 5:36 PM
@Origame - None of that was backpedaling. It was clarifying because you've proven you have zero reading comprehension. I NEVER said I didn't like it. Yes, I was disappointed it wasn't better, but all in all I still liked it okay. That's really not hard to understand.

And no, I've never seen you praise anything in the MCU. I literally only ever see you whine. AND you have that reputation here. So it's not just me. You make yourself look like that.
Variant - 11/2/2023, 5:47 PM
@KennKathleen - "The shows are not good". You do realize your personal opinion isn't somehow fact right? You do realize all the shows aside from Secret Invasion reviewed well in varying degrees right? Even She-Hulk.

As for Origame, you must be new here. I'm not defensive at all. All the dude ever does is whine and complain. It's like a goal or something to never skip a day of complaining. So this isn't even about a single post. And PS, you're siding with the guy that has a reputation here for being a racist. And the guy who tried to argue that catcalling isn't objectively bad. Lol. Not the dude I'd be siding with.
Origame - 11/2/2023, 5:50 PM
@Variant - 1) well maybe if you actually said you liked it instead of calling it a disappointment. @mountainman, if someone calls something a disappointment, and that's all they say on the matter, would you think the guy likes it?

2) we've been over this. I have and will continue to praise everything guardians of the galaxy related. That's been consistently good and didn't change by phase 5. I've also praised black panther, hence my issue with the new movie being that they didn't recast tchalla and just threw away that whole story arc. I've praised iron man1, winter soldier, all the avengers especially infinity war. Seriously, I've even praised this sh!t on articles you've commented on. Hell, you even commented on one of them acting surprised I was actually praising something. But instead of admitting you were wrong about me, you just insisted I did that to save face.

Meanwhile you still can't say anything bad about the mcu beyond one of the shows was kinda disappointing but still good. You're a shill and a fanboy. A toxic one at that.
Variant - 11/2/2023, 5:51 PM
@bobevanz - Shows how much you know about me. And my friends. I don't nitpick anything because my friend group in real life doesn't fvcking complain like a bunch of losers. And I'll let you ask my wife about "being ditched on prom night". Lol. I assure you I have no problems in that department. Meanwhile, your buddy here tries to defend catcalling. I'm sure the ladies really love that quality in a boy.
Variant - 11/2/2023, 6:20 PM
@Origame - "Disappointing" is relative. It simply means it fell short of my expectations. But it didn't fall so short that I utterly disliked it. You are trying to twist my words here and intentionally ignore all context I've ever given to my comments.

Also, I'm not sure why you're bringing @mountainman into this. He and I actually have productive discourse despite having differing opinions. You know, that thing I've told you about. That you don't always have to just position yourself as a whiney little brat...

As for being a shill and a fanboy. Um, I'm a fan, yes. Just a normal fan. And last time I checked we're on a CBM site. If there's one place for me to come and express my enjoyment for Marvel films it would be here. So I think you're confused...

And lastly, do you see how you ridiculous you sound? You're blaming me for not saying anything bad... How miserable of a person must you be to take issue with that. But also, it's not even true. I'm just a positive person who enjoys life. I don't sit here and dwell on the things that bother me about the film franchise I like. But truth be told, there are a ton of things that annoy me throughout all the projects. Ready for this?

- Thor 2 was boring as hell; way worse than Eternals.
- Cap's suit in Avengers 1 was corny.
- Iron Man, the face of the franchise, had the worst trilogy. Iron Man 2 and 3 didn't age well at all.
- Hulk's arc was shaping up to be pretty epic then fell off with smart Hulk; he desperately needs a redemption arc that is hopefully in the works since Marvel Studios supposedly got distribution rights back.
- The MCU has a bad habit of killing villains way too soon.
- The "backstory" to how Nick Fury lost his eye is absolutely fvcking stupid. And the writers are idiots for thinking that was funny.
- Thor 4 went overboard with the humor
- MODOK was poorly designed and the worst part of AM3
- She-Hulk was a good show but had disconcertingly bad CGI in a lot of parts

I'm sure I could find a few more things but the big picture here is this: the list I could write about the things I love about the MCU is significantly longer. I don't expect the MCU to be perfect; I can look past the few issues it has because the amount of positive takeaways is much greater. And the fact that all of Phase 4 reviews, by consensus, better than Phase 1 and 2, tells me the people being dramatic about the MCU aren't taking an objective look at this.

And at the end of the day, it's just really not that hard to not complain so much. No one likes a complainer.
mountainman - 11/2/2023, 6:48 PM
@Variant @Origame

Mom. Dad. Why can’t you ever get along? 😭
Origame - 11/2/2023, 8:31 PM
@Variant - 1) relative, yet no specifics on that relativity.

2) dude, you keep telling me to stop complaining. That isn't civil. And I never go after you. You always come after me. Either start coming in a civil manner, or leave me alone. That's all you have to do if you want genuine productive conversations. Granted by this point you've long since burnt that bridge.

3) dude, it's really not that hard. And the fact it took you months to say this is ridiculous. You're a fanboy. First step is admitting to it. And even in what you gave it's mostly just nitpicks like the cgi wasn't all that good.

4) again, I'm gonna speak my mind. If you don't like it, go elsewhere. Or block me. That simple.
Origame - 11/2/2023, 8:31 PM
@mountainman - mommy and daddy are getting a divorce
KennKathleen - 11/2/2023, 9:56 PM
@Variant - OK. My personal opinion is not fact. That's fine. BUT, if that's the case-

why would you follow up with the positive reviews in varying degrees???

It's like saying I should value the opinion of "who the hell knows" over my own. As far as "siding", I'm in agreement with whomever I believe is less full of sh💩t at that time.

It's a case by case scenario, that you often place highest in the ranks. I love MARVEL. I am guessing I have longer than you. If anyone has the right to say the current environment sucks, it should be one who's seen enough to know both good and bad times... I'd much rather see MARVEL being better than ever. Instead, you justify now based on sales of an inclining fan base ,which is always going to show high numbers until they completely sever the OGs, and act like phases 1 & 2 were somehow worse.

I'll say this:
Iron Man 2 > Phase 4

Thor:TDW > Black Wdow+ Hawkeye+SI+AM3+ThorL&T combined.

Purrid.
Variant - 11/2/2023, 11:43 PM
@KennKathleen - I actually see some glimpse of conversation here. And I'm happy to have it with you. So let's distinguish between this and what this other kid likes to do which is insufferably complain all the time.

I'm 41, bro. I grew up collecting comics, DC and Marvel, in the late 80s / early 90s. I'm a fan of the material, I'm a fan of the lore. This also means I grew up watching some REALLY mediocre CBMs back in the day. Most of which came from Fox. At the time, the X-Men films were cool because they were new and they brought them to life for the first time. Before that, all we had was the 90s cartoon...which to this day, I feel like, are the quintessential version of those characters. Fox DID NOT ultimately capture that tho. Instead we had Mystique eventually leading the team and Gambit nowhere to be found other than a glorified cameo in a spin off movie. THAT is what's truly garbage. Then this same studio makes the same storyline (Dark Phoenix Saga) TWICE... unforgivable. Not to mention the Apocalypse movie made about as much box office money as Ant-Man. If we're gonna talk about the good, the bad, and the ugly...Marvel Studios ain't on the negative end of that.

Is this to say they're perfect? No. I have my gripes all the same. But it's absolutely factual to say no one else is doing CBMs better. We are fvcking blessed to have a cohesive universe lasting over 15 years and counting. I will GLADLY take a Secret Invasion and an Ant-Man 3 to have what we have. At the end of the day, that's my entire point.
Variant - 11/2/2023, 11:57 PM
@mountainman - Can we at least acknowledge that dude tried to say "no specifics" yet I was very specific?

@origame - "It simply means it fell short of my expectations. But it didn't fall so short that I utterly disliked it. You are trying to twist my words here and intentionally ignore all context I've ever given to my comments."

How the entire fvck is that not specific? Once again, your reading comprehension fails you. And once again I prove that no matter what I say in an argument you TRY TO SAY I don't provide counter points. At some point you have to be self aware enough to see that you suck at arguing.

@mountainman - is it true or not that you and I have consistently opposing opinions? And is it also true that you and I have productive discourse about those opinions?

@origame - This isn't a battle between pro and anti. This is pointing out that you are a miserable person incapable of any sort of intellectual discourse.
KennKathleen - 11/3/2023, 2:48 AM
@Variant - 🙄😐... fair enough.


Since we're doing nerd stats, I'm 42, and I learned to read after watching Spider-Man get beat up by Dr.Octopus in a comic in the early-mid 80s. I fell in love with the symbiote suit way back when, and I have watched beautiful highs and lows in MARVEL, DC, Imagine, and a few other indies.

I believe the New Line "Blade" was a perfect example of what a studio could do with a comic property. Cgi aside, it still stands stronger than many films /TV from the past few years.


This begs the question: why???

Once we see what works, we should try increasing the longevity of that pattern, take calculated risks introducing new elements, and staying far from things that don't work.

MARVEL is increasingly being strangled by something far worse than our original fears upon buyout.

We saw the Fox move after the 96 edge of the skyscraper bankruptcy fears, and we enjoyed what X-Men brought to the table.

After seeing the aforementioned Blade, and being mesmerized by the Matrix, Fox had some tough competition.

Was the original X-Men great?

Heck no. However, it did offer our first on screen appearance of what we dreamt of seeing:

The recipe, good translation from comic to big screen. The secret ingredient:

FAMILIARITY

We all read the Wizard casting calls (right??? 🤨), and we had a general consensus of what we, the fans, wanted to see.

For the most part, they did a lot of things right.

X2 was top tier, X3 was a summary of DCEU's stumbling block of condensed catalog storytelling, and X-Men first class was mostly a redemption arc (except for how they did Darwin. Screw the entire movie for that alone!!).

Daredevil was a great tale of "never give up", which made me feel good, despite the silly school yard fight scene. I also enjoyed Evanescence. Screw you if you don't. Guilty pleasures². I digress...

Blade 2 is barely memorable to me, but I do enjoy when I do catch scenes in passing. Blade 3 was nonsense.

Spawn was also in the lane of guilty pleasure, and cgi had great and terrible moments between some Spawn like elements which made the movie a cult classic.

... Then along came a Spider-Man.

Rami and Co figured out a formula that made a precise stamp in what MARVEL wanted to display. Quirky, action inspired, feel good, dramas. Complete with classic damsel in distress³, and the hero overcoming adversity and betrayl to gain the morally appropriate victory.


DC came along with Batman Begins, and showed how the world could be displayed without the Quirky. It worked well.

The Heath became the Joker. TDK became the benchmark.

Iron Man popped up, and gave the impression of lesson learned on all angles. It has the daylight distinction, with diluted levels of quirky-ness, evolving quirky into quippy, and gave a solid story.

Heath died, Rises was salvaged by Banes presence, but the majority of the film felt lacking. We didn't learn from this at MARVEL 10 years later. Again, I digress.

IM2 was looking for legs, Captain America showed the power of an enduring will, and we got to see genuine efforts of comic translations in film.

That all ended with Infinity War pt 1.

Don't get me wrong- IM3 was stupid as shit for that fake Mandarin reveal, Thor felt like we can get through this, but it'll only get better, Darcy was lame, and we had acceptable bumps in the road, but nothing prior to Captain Marvel was too unforgiving.

CM dropped, and the idea that MARVEL would have the nerve to drop such a disingenuous bait switch was a 🚩.

Enter Endgame. We got hooked on nostalgia, fan lore, and callbacks that made us laugh cry and roar, to the point we were satisfied with what had become the greatest run in movie history.

Then came D+.

Some muthaphucka got through the door and decided success was nothing without inclusion.

Whoever signed on to this theory should get the pluck out of Hollywood, and never return.

I say all thar to say this:


BRING BACK OUR GENRE. I DON'T GO SEE A BOXING MATCH, AND GET OFFENDED WHEN SOMEONE BLEEDS.

NOR DO I LOOK AT THE RING GIRL AND SAY "YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGHT TOO!!"

We want us to win. If you don't like how we play, go play something else!!! Imagine if I went into these inclusion "insist-ists", and demanded my desires.


Hey "Serena Williams" shouldn't hit the ball so hard over the net! It's not fair!!!

We came to WIN IN ENYERTAINMENT. I WANT TO SEE MARVEL MAKE THE FIRST DOUBLE-DIGIT BILLION DOLLAR FILM. PANDERING WON'T MAKE THAT HAPPEN. NOT FOR THE SAKE OF INCLUSUION ALONE.


As I sated earlier:

Our fear of family friendly was eventually seen and trumped, by inclusion...


This is too f$#ing long. If you get it, you get it.
KennKathleen - 11/3/2023, 2:54 AM
@Variant - *too many typos #bringbacktheedit,aightI'mout
Origame - 11/3/2023, 5:07 AM
@Variant - ...that's what you said today. Not back then when this conversation actually took place.

Also, stfu. This is definitely you being pro marvel and hating me saying anything negative. You're never there when I'm praising the mcu. You're never there when I'm talking about literally anything else. And it's always you saying "stop".

That's not civil discourse. Just accept I have a different opinion and either block me or don't engage.
Origame - 11/3/2023, 5:10 AM
@KennKathleen - trust me, dude. He tried to be friendly to me at first. But he just goes right around to attack you anytime you say anything bad about the mcu. Don't fall for it.

He says he wants civility, but what he really wants is for us to shut up. He's a white knight, plain and simple.
mountainman - 11/3/2023, 6:59 AM
@Variant - I haven’t read the entire thread and don’t plan to.

Yes we have different opinions at times.

I’ve worked very hard to fight with other users less on here even when I disagree.

But I’m not the comment police and don’t want to be. I tried to throw a joke out a bit ago to diffuse this, but I’m not getting dragged into your argument.

You guys could just end it or block each other. But i’m not tagging in.
Origame - 11/3/2023, 7:40 AM
@mountainman - look, sorry for tagging you. I didn't want to drag you into it. Just laugh at ridiculous logic.
mountainman - 11/3/2023, 7:57 AM
@Origame - @Variant -

Here is my attempt at trying to see if you guys can wrap this up.

Some people like the current MCU. Some don’t. Yeah box office and viewership are down. But it probably isn’t “dead”.

There have been some “pandering” or “woke” choices made by Marvel and other studios. Sometimes these have been done at the expense of quality storytelling. Other times, it’s cool to get more types of people and heroes in there. Some people that complain about this are dumb and use dumb arguments. Some of them could even be racists, sexists and homophobes. But not everyone who dislikes this stuff is.

Either way, there is no one right answer to this stuff. It’s all subjective. If you like it, great watch it and enjoy it. Comments from people who don’t like it shouldn’t impact you. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. Comments from people who like it shouldn’t impact you.

Just let’s keep the comments to the actual movies and shows and not about what each of us is saying. That’s some high school nonsense and I think a lot of us are much older than that.
Origame - 11/3/2023, 8:09 AM
@mountainman - I appreciate the attempt, but I've been telling him a truncated version of that for a while now and he just will not accept that. He just refuses to hear the opposing side when it comes to the mcu.

I don't even comment to the guy. Only reply when he comes after me in the comments. He's so convinced I'm the problem for saying I don't like current mcu.
mountainman - 11/3/2023, 8:41 AM
@Origame - Hey you do you!

This is my official last comment in this thread. I’ve said what I need to say to both you and @Variant.

It’s Friday, it’s warmed up a bit out here in Colorado, and I have the day off work. I’m going to get a nice morning hike in with my dogs and go touch some grass.
Origame - 11/3/2023, 9:24 AM
@mountainman - well good on you. Hope you have a great day.
Variant - 11/3/2023, 1:32 PM
@Origame - Dude. I do not care if you don't like Marvel. I call you out because you complain too much and don't know how to position your arguments like an adult with a sense of decency.

But hey, how about that Echo trailer?! Glad they didn't "stop". That shit looks amazing!
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