LOKI Director Won't Debunk Those Theories That Peggy Carter Made A Cameo Appearance In The Series Premiere

Following the season premiere of Loki last month, speculation started running rampant that a Peggy Carter Variant made a cameo appearance. Here's what director Kate Herron had to say about that big theory!

By JoshWilding - Jul 20, 2021 04:07 AM EST

Filed Under: Loki

In the season premiere of Loki, "Glorious Purpose," eagle-eyed fans were convinced that they spotted Peggy Carter being apprehended by the TVA. The resemblance was certainly hard to ignore, and the mystery woman was even dressed in a similar style to what we saw in the Agent Carter TV series.

We know that What If? will put the spotlight on a Peggy Variant who takes the Super Soldier Serum and becomes Captain Carter, so it's certainly possible that (or another) version was pruned by the TVA for daring to stray from the Sacred Timeline created by He Who Remains.

During an interview with Entertainment Tonight, Loki director Kate Herron was asked about the apparent Peggy Carter cameo and whether she could explain what we were seeing.

"I would say-- [Laughs] No, I think the conversation should continue!" the filmmaker teased.

Now, we're no closer to finding out whether that was Peggy, but it would be pretty cool to see Marvel Studios find a way to tie all these stories together through the TVA. Many fans are convinced that What If? is setting the stage for the "Guardians of the Multiverse" to assemble in live-action, and it's entirely possible the animated series will have ramifications for the wider MCU.

Do you think we'll get an explanation for Peggy's apparent cameo in Loki?

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8. It Was Kang All Along

Heading into the finale, we were all a little concerned Loki might reveal that another of the God of Mischief's Variants would be the show's big bad. An even worse option was that it could be Miss Minutes, an A.I. that had achieved sentience and killed the Time-Keepers before taking charge of the TVA.

Thankfully, we instead learned that Kang the Conqueror is the one in charge. Well, one of his Variants. It seems there is no original because the nature of the Multiverse means that countless realities are stacked on top of each other; however, "He Who Remains" was able to weaponise Alioth and wipe out his doppelgangers in order to put an end to a Multiversal War.

That's because there are other Kangs who simply want to conquer the new worlds they discovered, and as this Variant - who is akin to Immortus - explains, they're now on the way. That's a confusing concept, but one we'll explore a little later.

7. The True Multiversal War

The TVA's version of the Multiversal War (explained by Miss Minutes in the first episode) is that all the different timelines started fighting each other for supremacy, and it was only when the Time-Keepers stepped in that disaster was averted. From there, they created a "Sacred Timeline," but there's more to that story than meets the eye.

As Kang explains, the truth is that all his Variants went to war in a bid to protect their timelines and potentially control the others. Now, another war is on the horizon because this endless number of Kangs have been reborn and will, sooner or later, arrive in the Marvel Cinematic Universe looking to conquer and rule over it.

How Marvel Studios plans to handle this is hard to say; we can't imagine Jonathan Majors playing millions, thousands, hundreds or even dozens of Kangs on screen at the same time, so we're banking on a few different versions showing up like Iron Lad and perhaps even the scientist from the 31st Century who discovered the Multiverse (with the Conqueror as the MCU's new big bad).

6. Sylvie Betrays Loki

Anyone expecting Loki to return to his villainous nature in this series was definitely left with egg on their face after the finale, because the God of Mischief proved he really had changed.

Sylvie, however, could not see past her desire for revenge and having not learned how fruitless that is (as Loki once did), she betrays him... after they share a kiss. While we can't help but hope that means they will eventually get a happy ending together, this betrayal could be a step too far and Loki is clearly heartbroken by his Variant's actions.

Sophia Di Martino has said that Sylvie felt empty after killing Kang, so who knows where her story goes next. She has a TemPad that can take her to any timeline, but will she track down Loki or once again head down her own path? Initially, we think it will be the latter, but they simply have to meet again.

5. The Sacred Timeline Is No More

Up until this point, everything we've seen in the MCU has taken place on the "Sacred Timeline." Before Loki, we've only actually visited different timelines on two occasions and both of those were in Avengers: Endgame. There, Earth's Mightiest Heroes travelled back to multiple pasts, but managed to "repair" them when Captain America returned the Infinity Stones.

Even so, their actions must have caused some issues on the Sacred Timeline, all of which were likely resolved by the TVA (possibly meaning that the timelines Steve Rogers returned to were pruned anyway, just like the one Loki managed to escape from in 2012).

So, why were the Avengers meant to travel back in time? Because Kang wanted Loki to replace him in the Citadel at the End of Time, and as Sam Wilson was destined to become Cap, Steve had to live in a branched timeline so he could return to the main one as an old man. We still have a lot of questions, though, and can't help but think this will be addressed down the line.

4. Judge Renslayer's Mission

While Judge Renslayer clearly knows that everyone in the TVA is a Variant (she certainly seems aware of her own counterpart in 2018), the reveal that the Time-Keepers were robots was just as much a surprise to her as it was to Loki and Sylvie.

Now, she clearly hopes to track Kang down, but we don't know what those files Miss Minutes gave her revealed or where she's heading. "He Who Remains" clearly wanted her to see them, though, so something tells us Renslayer is on the way to the 31st Century where she'll inadvertently play a role in the creation of the TVA.

We could see her become a villain in her own right, of course, and her falling for Kang would line up nicely with the comic books. Whatever the case might be, Renslater is a character with an intriguing future in the MCU who could factor into a lot of stories.

3. The Birth Of The Multiverse

As the final few minutes of "For Time. Always." makes clear, the Multiverse has been reborn. However, we're not talking about just a few branching timelines. There are now countless alternate realities, and in terms of how that affects the MCU's future, the ramifications are going to be massive.

For starters, we now have a much better understanding of how Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's versions of Spider-Man can factor into Spider-Man: No Way Home as they can just be plucked from another world. Marvel Studios can do that with as many actors and characters as they like now, and this even clears up how Tom Holland will play Spidey in two cinematic universes.

It's inevitable that he'll swing into the SPUMC sooner rather than later, but when he does, that Peter Parker will be a Variant, and his actions won't have any sort of impact on his MCU counterpart. It's a genius idea and one that also opens the door to Marvel Studios eventually recasting characters.

2. A Planet Of The Apes-Style Ending

The final scene in Loki definitely pays homage to Planet of the Apes when we see the God of Mischief arrive in the wrong timeline. There, the TVA is ruled over by one of - if not the - Kang the Conqueror "He Who Remains" warned him about, and something tells us the tricker is in big trouble.

The original Morbius and Hunter B-15 are still alive and well in what we've come to know as the Sacred Timeline, so their memories haven't been wiped or anything like that, but Loki is going to have to contend with Variants he doesn't know who are likely loyal to who they see as their benevolent ruler.

Honestly, we don't bank on Loki spending much time there because watching him befriend another Mobius and go through all that again sounds kind of...dull? However, there's definitely something to be said for Loki exploring a reality completely unlike his own before meeting Kang.

1. The Conqueror Is Coming

So, we're banking on one definitive Kang the Conqueror making his presence felt in the MCU, but that doesn't mean his Variants won't also make an impact. We'd be shocked if his Variants don't somehow factor into proceedings, though, with an actor younger than Majors suiting up as Iron Lad, for example.

Kang is an incredibly powerful character, but not one who has ever really made use of an army. That's going to present some challenges when he comes to play with the MCU's Avengers, so perhaps he'll be joined by other, lesser Kangs who can serve as canon fodder for Earth's Mightiest Heroes?

It's hard to say, but Kang is clearly a major threat, who we'll see take centre stage in Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania. Something tells us his story won't be wrapping up there, however!

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bkmeijer2 - 7/20/2021, 4:16 AM

''it's certainly possible that (or another) version was pruned by the TVA for daring to stray from the Sacred Timeline''

I'm starting to think HWR's Sacred Timeline is actually a thing, but instead those red lines were leading (as in, when the red line was reached, the Kang in that timeline would turn out evil).

I doubt that's Peggy, or atleast the Peggy Steve went back to. Steve (or even the rest of the Avengers) timetravelling did no harm to the nature of the Kang of his timeline, so nobody had to get pruned or arrested there.

Mugens - 7/20/2021, 4:27 AM

Considering how things ultimately played out there is no reason that it couldn't have been her. I always believed it was another version of her when I first saw it.

CorndogBurglar - 7/20/2021, 4:37 AM

I mean, I can't lie. When I first watched I noticed her and thought she looked a lot like Peggy, before even hearing about this theory.

Whether it was intentional is up for debate. But she definitely looks like Peggy.

Also, a little different, but I loved thag the battleship that showed up in the Void was the U.S. Eldridge. For those that don't know, there is a real life conspiracy theory about that ship. It was called the Philadelphia Experiment where supposedly the military was testing teleportation technology with that ship. Supposedly it was seen in two different places in a short amount of time that would have been impossible to travel normally. And some people on the ship claimed that they were transported to the future and back again, and that some of the crew members were fused into the hull of the ship.

It's all crazy conspiracy theory stuff, but I thought it was a cool nod.

bkmeijer2 - 7/20/2021, 4:40 AM

@CorndogBurglar - I think it was debunked that the cloaking actually worked (because the ship was already in another place), so I like to believe this variant was that they actually did the experiment and thus had to be pruned

CorndogBurglar - 7/20/2021, 5:55 AM

@bkmeijer - Well yeah, the real life theory was debunked, but you know how Conspiracy Theorists are. More often than not they think "debunking" is somehow confirmation of a cover up lol.

But yeah, that's how I looked at it too in Loki. This version worked which upset the Sacred Timeline, so it got pruned. Very cool little nod in my opinion.

bkmeijer2 - 7/20/2021, 6:38 AM

@CorndogBurglar - no matter what you say or bring up around cospiracy theorists, they'll always turn it in favor of their argument indeed.

Would've been more fun if one of the sailors was shocked that it actually worked.

CorndogBurglar - 7/20/2021, 6:50 AM

@bkmeijer - I was expecting to see some sailors fused with the ship lol.

bkmeijer2 - 7/20/2021, 6:57 AM

@CorndogBurglar - that would've been real weird to see. I wonder who they were engaging in a fight with, because they already appeared in fighting positions when the ship was dropped in the Void

GhostDog - 7/20/2021, 4:42 AM

This was such a ridiculous theory

slickrickdesigns - 7/20/2021, 5:17 AM

“Is that Peggy Carter at the TVA in the Loki series?”
- Fans

“Do you want it to be?”
- Marvel Studios

“Yes!”
- Fans

“Of course that’s Peggy Carter! Just like we pre planned the little kid as Peter Parker from Ironman 2.”
- MS

Unguviolet - 7/20/2021, 7:26 AM

@slickrickdesigns - @slickrickdesigns - Some fans: "It'd be cool if that kid in IM2 was Peter Parker. Marvel please confirm!"

KF: "That kid was definitely not Peter Parker. But alright, That would still work. We'd like to make the fans happy"

Some people: "Lame retcon. Everything needs to be planned from the start ir don't bother ".

slickrickdesigns - 7/20/2021, 5:21 AM

I’d like to think that was Peggy arrested from a timeline where she time traveled to the future to fight Sharon Carter for kissing her man.

solskulldeath - 7/20/2021, 6:49 AM

they should put gamora instead of Peggy since Gamora is the second well-known variant after Loki.

YonnyLayna - 7/20/2021, 8:26 AM

She Is the Peggy from the One Shot who got out of continuity whe the Tv Series took over.

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