LOKI Spoiler Recap And Discussion For Episode 3, "Lamentis"

LOKI Spoiler Recap And Discussion For Episode 3, "Lamentis"

Today's episode of Loki picked up right where last week's effort left off, and there were plenty of big reveals about Sophia Di Martino's Variant, the TVA, and more. Read our full, in-depth recap here...

By JoshWilding - Jun 23, 2021 03:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Loki

This week's episode of Loki kicks off with the Variant inside Roxxcart infiltrating the mind of the TVA agent she kidnapped last week. Creating a surprisingly normal setting of a bar, the villain manages to find out that the Time-Keepers can be reached by using a gold elevator within the Time Variance Authority headquarters. With that, she notices the arrival of Loki and the TVA, and we then jump to her arriving at the TVA shortly after the events of that big cliffhanger.

The God of Mischief isn't far behind, but like him, the Variant can't quite seem to access her powers properly in the TVA. Despite that, she makes short work of those she encounters but soon clashes with Loki after he realises that she can't be reasoned with. It's then Judge Renslayer arrives, but Loki is quick to use the TemPad to escape before they're both pruned from the sacred timeline.

Arriving on Lamentis-1 just hours before it's destroyed by colliding with the planet above, they continue to bicker, and the only way off this rock is with the TemPad that's just run out of juice! There's a surprisingly intimate moment between the two when the Variant tries to enchant Loki, and we learn that she's spent years planning to kill the Time-Keepers. After agreeing to a team-up that will ensure their survival, Loki learns that this female Loki now uses "Sylvie" as her alias (find more on that here), and their attempts to charge the TemPad...well, they don't work too well. 

Loki disguises himself as a guard to get them onto a train that's heading for "the ark," a ship that's being used to evacuate the moon. He needs some help from Sylvie, and it's at this point they start getting to know each other a little better. We don't learn much about her beyond the fact her mother died when she was young (Freya, we're assuming) and that, unlike Loki, she learned early on that she was adopted. Sylvie also taught herself magic, and the two ponder the meaning of love. However, while Sylvie sleeps, Loki gets drunk and after a fight with the guards, is thrown from the train. Sylvie follows, but the TemPad has been destroyed. Now, their only hope is to get on the ark and stop it from being destroyed in this timeline. 

It's at this point Loki learns a devastating secret about the TVA - we have more details on that for you here - and Sylvie and the agent were shown in a bar together because it was a memory from the girl's past - she's a Variant too, just like all of those who report to the Time-Keeping. They just don't know it. Loki and Sylvie don't get much time to talk before having to fight their way to the ark. A great, action-packed sequence follows, but they're too late: it's destroyed by a piece of the planet above, and the episode ends with Loki gob-smacked and Sylvie walking away. They're trapped on Lamentis-1 with just hours to go before the moon is completely obliterated...
 

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RageDriver2401
RageDriver2401 - 6/23/2021, 3:15 AM
Filler episode, sorta bored.
JermareCBM
JermareCBM - 6/23/2021, 3:53 AM
@RageDriver2401 - Really? The whole episode was about exploring Loki's psyche. It's the farthest thing from filler possible.
RageDriver2401
RageDriver2401 - 6/23/2021, 4:06 AM
@JermareCBM - aside from the train/bar sequence nothing much really.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/23/2021, 4:10 AM
@RageDriver2401 - I wouldn't really consider it filler, but I agree it didn't propel the story at all except for a few revelations.
MotherFuckerJon
MotherFuckerJon - 6/23/2021, 3:23 AM
I actually enjoyed it. Its interesting that Sylvie said she was young when her parents died or whatever happened. And that she's spent years running from the omniscient TVA. I think this version of "Loki" isn't Loki but was a girl from Oklahoma that was gifted the powers of Loki. They are drawing from the comics when Asgard was in Oklahoma.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/23/2021, 4:04 AM
@HydraB0b - I think she's marked a variant because she is Loki, but a Loki that was taken away from Asgard (or Jotunheim) when she was supposed to.

Think it's part of the character, but for some reason I'm still not sold on her being Sylvie Lushton.
MotherFuckerJon
MotherFuckerJon - 6/23/2021, 4:09 AM
@bkmeijer - could be, hopefully we will find out. A flashback episode would be nice.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/23/2021, 4:11 AM
@HydraB0b - maybe not a full flashback, but just like this week I think we'll be getting an opening that rewinds time a little to reveal some stuff
MotherFuckerJon
MotherFuckerJon - 6/23/2021, 3:53 AM
If Loki and Female Loki hook up..would that be considered Loki [frick]ing him/her self? And if they birth a child...would it be Loki?
RageDriver2401
RageDriver2401 - 6/23/2021, 4:07 AM
@HydraB0b - don't be silly.

That would be Loki jr.
RageDriver2401
RageDriver2401 - 6/23/2021, 4:07 AM
@HydraB0b - or even better, Loki Lokison.
globaltravels
globaltravels - 6/23/2021, 4:01 AM
thought it was great. cant wait to rewatch it.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/23/2021, 4:07 AM
It really reminded me of certain Clone Wars episodes (Bounty Hunters and Bounty) that explore what defines the characters rather than following the story.

Definitely liked how the episode looked too. Previous episodes looked kinda dark, but this was way more vibrant. Not the best episode, but definitely an interesting one.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/23/2021, 4:09 AM
Also, is Mobius a variant too without knowing it? And would that mean his love for jetski's comes from his previous life where he was a lifeguard?
RageDriver2401
RageDriver2401 - 6/23/2021, 4:13 AM
@bkmeijer - yes, that is what is implied. TVA agents had regular lives before the TVA recruited or abducted them or whatever.

Funnily enough I read this as a fan theory on instagram last week. That dude must be very pleased with himself.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/23/2021, 4:21 AM
@RageDriver2401 - that guy was right on the money. And I think he's not the only one. Hell, I wonder if there's actually someone who believed everything we were told about the TVA from the start.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 6/23/2021, 7:55 AM
@bkmeijer - *raises hand* I def believed the TVA agents were created by the time keepers thing but to be fair that’s all we had to go off . Very interested to see how it plays out
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/23/2021, 8:03 AM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - okay yeah that's understandable. We also had Loki calling them out, and as mischievous as he is, I actually took Loki for his word instead of the TVA instead.

But yeah, I am interested to see where it goes too
MotherFuckerJon
MotherFuckerJon - 6/23/2021, 4:10 AM
Did anyone else notice when she said she was in love with a mail carrier? I knew the mail man from Wamdavision was suss as a mfer.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/23/2021, 4:11 AM
@HydraB0b - no, the mailman is obviously Mephisto because both start with M
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 6/23/2021, 4:33 AM
I was surprised that it ended where it did… it was a rather short episode. I thought that it might continue to reveal which of them was playing the other, if either was.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 6/23/2021, 5:36 AM
@Chewtoy - it's funny how much my mind was singularly focused on decoding who was double crossing who. Feels like Lokis "expect the expected" line to Mobius is going to get some extra mileage
Santanaonfire
Santanaonfire - 6/23/2021, 7:40 PM
@Chewtoy - I definitely scrolled through the credits because the runtime still had so much left when the story ended. It was like 10 minutes! Nada though.
SeanMPC
SeanMPC - 6/23/2021, 4:42 AM
In my head I kept trying to figure out the different kind of Loki variants... because if the Sacred Timeline is the main one we know to be the "MCU", that means the Loki we've always watched is what the 'Prime Loki' is supposed to be.

All those example variants looked so different, but obviously can't have been that different for very long, as the TVA would've come in and zapped them out of existence.

IF we're taking Sylvie as a female Loki, then she would have gone against the Sacred Timeline from the moment she was born - meaning the TVA popped in close to her birth being all "WTF, this baby is supposed to be a male, reset the timeline".

Sylvie says "I've been running from the TVA all my life" - was she taken in by the TVA, then escaped and grew up on the run? ALSO - was Mobius the one who took her in/saved her in that moment?


...I'm enjoying the show, lol.
CassianAndor
CassianAndor - 6/23/2021, 11:16 AM
@SeanMPC - Who’s to say she was born female? It’s possible, but it’s also possible tha perhaps she was born male, but at some point used her possession powers to take over a female body and then became stuck in it or chose to stay in it. Maybe the woman she possessed was originally named Sylvie.
Kyos
Kyos - 6/23/2021, 5:13 AM
"What is grief, if not an imaginary dagger continuing to exist?"
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/23/2021, 8:04 AM
@Kyos - thats a good one
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 6/23/2021, 5:43 AM
oh, so this variant used to be Loki (male I assume) but at some point adopted a female persona and the name Sylvie. at least that's how I interpreted it. and Loki swings both ways, which isn't really that surprising.

definitely a character-centric episode rather than plot-centric but we do get a fairly major reveal about the TVA. the story about the time-keepers was already a little too convenient, but if these guys are all variants then how did all this time-police business begin, and why, and by who?

and there were some really solid lines in this episode. I'm definitely using "I'm not drunk, I'm full" at some point.
vegetaray
vegetaray - 6/23/2021, 6:22 AM
Going to throw it out there…Another Loki variant is behind the TVA…There is no guardians of the timeline or whatever…All these TVA agents are variants of themselves who have been enchanted by whatever this big bad TVA creating Loki ends up being…
GhostDog
GhostDog - 6/23/2021, 6:28 AM
@vegetaray - this would be interesting.

Maybe its King Loki
HeeroG
HeeroG - 6/23/2021, 6:34 AM
@vegetaray - Actually it's a very good possibility.
"Our" Loki wanted to meet the Keepers to backstab them and take control of the TVA. Maybe another Loki Variant already did that a long time ago and have been controlling the TVA since then.
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