Elizabeth Olsen Rumored To Be "Locked In" For Scarlet Witch Return; Ultron To Have Major Role In VISION

Elizabeth Olsen Rumored To Be "Locked In" For Scarlet Witch Return; Ultron To Have Major Role In VISION

We have some new rumors relating to the long-awaited return of Elizabeth Olsen's Scarlet Witch, and the villainous Ultron (James Spader)...

By MarkCassidy - Aug 24, 2024 08:08 PM EST
Filed Under: WandaVision

On Friday, the news broke that Avengers: Age of Ultron star James Spader is set to return as the titular villain for the planned Disney+ Vision series, which is now being described as "the third part of a trilogy that started with WandaVision and continues in Agatha All Along."

Ultron was destroyed by Vision (Paul Bettany) towards the end of the Avengers sequel, and while we're not sure exactly how he'll be reintroduced, it sounds like the character won't just be returning for a cameo.

According to Daniel Richtman, the all-powerful AI will "have a major role in the show." The scooper has also heard that the Vision series "will have elements of West Cost Avengers."

This chapter of Earth's Mightiest Heroes was formed by Hawkeye in the '80s, and the original line-up also included Vision, Mockingbird, Wonder Man, Tigra, and Iron Man (with Rhodey in the armor). Whether the team will actually be formed in the WandaVision spin-off remains to be seen, but it sounds like the groundwork might be laid, at the very least.

As for the Scarlet Witch, following Deadline's report that Elizabeth Olsen might be set to return for Vision, Richtman is claiming that the Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness star is "locked in" to reprise the role for "a Marvel project that is filming in 2025."

He doesn't specify whether it's definitely Vision, but it's worth noting that Avengers: Doomsday is also scheduled to begin shooting next year.

We found out earlier this year that the show had been revamped, with Star Trek: Picard executive producer Terry Matalas now on board as showrunner. The series is currently on track for a 2026 premiere.

Matalas' work on Picard is said to have "greatly impressed the top brass at the studio. Marvel chief Kevin Feige, an avowed Trekkie, even recently appeared with Matalas on a two-hour episode of the Star Trek podcast Inglorious Treksperts.”

Bettany will reprise his role as the MCU's tragic synthezoid, and the story is expected to focus on "ghost Vision exploring his new purpose in life."

The finale of WandaVision revealed that the Vision we'd been spending time with over the course of the season was actually one of Wanda's constructs, but the real, "White Vision" was rebuilt by S.W.O.R.D. and programmed to track down and kill the Scarlet Witch. This version of the character away to parts unknown towards the end of the episode after declaring himself to be the "true Vision."

As for Wanda, last we saw of the powerful sorceress, she was laying waste to the Illuminati and bringing a mountain down on top of herself in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.

Previous Vision Quest rumors claimed that Vision's children, Vin and Viv, would make their MCU debuts in the show, but we have no idea which - if any - ideas from Jac Schaefer's incarnation of the series will carry over. Euphoria alum Javon Walton is rumored to be up for the role of "Teen" (most likely Speed).

"Marvel Studios' WandaVision blends the style of classic sitcoms with the Marvel Cinematic Universe in which Wanda Maximoff and Vision – two super-powered beings living their ideal suburban life – begin to suspect that everything is not as it seems."

In addition to Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany as the leads, WandaVision stars Kathryn Hahn, Teyonah Parris, Debra Jo Rupp, Randall Park, and Kat Dennings. Following the success of the series, an "Agatha: Coven of Chaos" spin-off featuring the return of Hahn as Agatha Harkness was announced. We recently learned that this show would actually be titled Agatha All Along.

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kg8817
kg8817 - 8/24/2024, 8:33 PM
Except Avengers Doomsday is filming in 2025 but, sure.
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 8/25/2024, 12:27 AM
@kg8817 - Was the article updated? Because he definitely said that.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/24/2024, 8:56 PM
I could buy Wanda showing up in Vision , especially if Billy in Agatha All Along is trying to get through the Witches Road to save his mom who is trapped at the end of it..

Her being freed and showing up in Vision would be a nice culmination to that mini arc that started in WV (or really MoM) , even moreso if her other “son” Tommy is there too as rumored.

Plus , it would also make sense since she and Vision both have history with this Ultron who I’m hoping is the main villain of this!!.

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IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 8/24/2024, 9:06 PM
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dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/24/2024, 9:06 PM
I think it was a missed opportunity to not have Ultron be in control of Vision's body in WandaVision.
RolandD
RolandD - 8/24/2024, 9:06 PM
I would love for Wanda to be redeemed somehow but other than showing that this wasn’t the real Wanda in WandaVision and TMOM or that she was being controlled, I don’t see how she could be. Either of those solutions might seem like a copout as well so it seems like this is a lose lose for that. Probably the best we could hope for is that she fights for the good once again, but it won’t undo what she did.
RolandD
RolandD - 8/24/2024, 9:07 PM
@RolandD - in other words, I’m kind of pissed that the MCU did this to her because she should’ve been a heroic character.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/24/2024, 9:14 PM
@RolandD - I mean , her character has a volatile history as a hero and villain in the comics aswell so it has precedent

Plus while I had my issue with them regressing her character a bit in MoM , they do have the built in excuse of the Darkhold having corrupted her
GameOn
GameOn - 8/24/2024, 9:50 PM
@RolandD - She was being controlled by the Darkhold
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/25/2024, 4:31 AM
@RolandD - My issue is that they just made her a crazy villain with a tenuous goal, when I think her being more personal as a villain, maybe even an Avengers level one, is more interesting than "evil book make her crazy". What's the point of that? Why not make this something bigger, something she doesn't even know she's doing and the heroes have to confront her about it? If you're gonna do it, why not do it and make it more character based and build up to it? Even her own show didn't want to do this and seemed to try and play this middle ground where she knew, but didn't know how and just denied the issue or whatever. And then shift away from that to do something else with the evil book thing. Weird writing to me.
Fogs
Fogs - 8/25/2024, 6:52 AM
@GameOn - ehhhhh.. kinda, cause once the Darkhold was destroyed in the middle of MoM the writers didn't care to show any humanity remaining within her, so they weren't really going for the "evil influence" road. She was a straight up villain.

The only possible way would be to use 838 Wanda or smth like that - IF the idea is to still have her as a hero.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 8/25/2024, 7:03 AM
@RolandD - In the original source WV was based on she was being controlled and manipulated, major part of her comic history most her life she was being controlled to varying extents by Chthon, The original author of the Darkhold, and a retcon added manipulation by Mephisto with the birth of the twins so...

...the end scene and in MoM clearly showed she was being heavily controlled by the Darkhold playing with her maternal instincts (regardless if you consider her kids real or not).

All that said she should IMO remain on the more villainous side in universe as an antihero who joins Magneto's brotherhood moving forward prior to any potential FULL redemption way down the road. Regardless of that her actions for a comic book character and with all factors considered is not beyond redemption (only a case of if it would written well enough for everyone to buy into it).
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/25/2024, 8:35 AM
@Apophis71 -
@Fogs -

My issue is that they just made her a crazy villain with a tenuous goal, when I think her being more personal as a villain, maybe even an Avengers level one, is more interesting than "evil book make her crazy". What's the point of that? Why not make this something bigger, something she doesn't even know she's doing and the heroes have to confront her about it? If you're gonna do it, why not do it and make it more character based and build up to it? Even her own show didn't want to do this and seemed to try and play this middle ground where she knew, but didn't know how and just denied the issue or whatever. And then shift away from that to do something else with the evil book thing. Weird writing to me.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 8/25/2024, 9:12 AM
@dagenspear - Not saying there are not issues with how they handled it all, there was, only saying that it isn't beyond the possible to redeem her by, for instance, introducing Chthon and/or Mephisto in a semi-source accurate way to show the reason she went beyond percieved reason into crazy villain being that they have been manipulating her to varying degrees potential from a very young age just like in the source material.

Sure, some of those were retcons in the comics too and could be seen as retcons in the MCU too but prescedent to do so and the presence of Chthons book (even if not using it at first) during Wandavision and beyond means with good writing it could work well and retrospectively make the prior show and film all the better for it by plugging percieved plotholes etc.
r1g0r
r1g0r - 8/24/2024, 9:09 PM
They really need to redeem her.
She is too tragic to just leave her be a villain.

She has lost EVERYTHING, and now fu¢king Agatha is going to be back.

Girl can't catch a break...
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 8/24/2024, 10:11 PM
@r1g0r -


I’m with you 100%!!

We need her “Thor entrance in Infinity War” moment in one of the upcoming Avengers movies after she’s been through it and redeemed herself!

Like if they had made this Agatha series about Wanda going through the witches road to undo or mend what she did , it would have been absolutely amazing to see her come to the aid of the Avengers.


I don’t think they’ll do anything like that but one can wish I guess lol
Order66
Order66 - 8/24/2024, 9:33 PM
Yall thought they killed scarlet witch lmao. She’s so important to the MCU. House of M is coming!
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/25/2024, 4:32 AM
@Order66 - I don't see them doing that in the way that would be that strong.
Fogs
Fogs - 8/25/2024, 6:55 AM
@Order66 - If they weren't going for the multiversal crap she could do a reverse "no more mutants" and boom. Room for the X-Men to appear. I thought the Celestials or the High Evolutionary would have something to do with the x-gene being activated in the MCU but they took the lazy road (imo).
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 8/24/2024, 9:43 PM
@MarkCassidy Slight correction. The original West Coast Avengers did debut with Tony in armor. In fact, when Marvel was trying to keep the silver centurian armor, it leaked on a Secret Wars II cover first, then debuted in West Coast Avengers #1 before it was supposed to be revealed in Iron Man #200.

I only know this because my friends and I would compete with drawing what we through the armor would look like. Tony would be shown working on it during his Iron Man sabatical but Marvel was sharp not to reveal the color swap. This was during Rhodeys first run as Iron Man when Tony was too drunk. I think this run of Ironman leading up to Armor Wars might have been its best run.
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 8/24/2024, 9:44 PM
Speaking of Wanda, They could just bring her into SW from the Multiverse. It could be 616 Wanda with Amnesia. Thats how they have brought her back before. She never seems to remember when she wipes out a number of people when she loses her shit.
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 8/24/2024, 10:13 PM
@CreateNowSlpL8r -
Lmao XD


That’s Wanda haha
But to fair she’s also been manipulated to do most of the stuff she’s done in the comics
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 8/24/2024, 9:45 PM
I need Wanda to be redeemed and actually be a hero again. But it's not that easy because she did some pretty unforgivable things, even before being corrupted by the Darkhold.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/24/2024, 10:28 PM
@comicfan100 - true

I hope it’s like a multi film redemption arc like Bucky where she has to make up for holding an entire town hostage
JobinJ
JobinJ - 8/24/2024, 10:43 PM
@comicfan100 - she can rotten hell. No redemption.
hue66
hue66 - 8/24/2024, 9:52 PM
Hope they make him more formidable and as frightening as he is in the comics. Couldn't take him seriously in A2. Too easily defeated
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 8/24/2024, 10:16 PM
I see Wanda as a character like Loki.

Obviously not 100% a villain like Loki was for the first 2 movies he was in, but still in that morally gray area.

Loki’s thing was being jealous of his brother and resenting his father.

Wanda has gone through it , loosing her parents , then her brother when she tried to do right by what she did while with Ultron, and then loosing Vision.

She hasn’t caught a break so I do see where they were going with her trying to at least have her children in Multiverse Of Wanda and why a damaged person like her would turn to the dark side.


Just like Loki telling Thor at the end of Thor 1, almost crying because he felt like he didn’t fit in but at the same time he felt entitled to be king of everything.
JobinJ
JobinJ - 8/24/2024, 10:43 PM
@MisterDoctor217 - she murdered hundreds of people. She can rot in hell. No redemption.

She is not a hero anymore.
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 8/24/2024, 11:32 PM
@JobinJ -


Loki killed thousands as well , including Agent Coulson.

Yet he is now holding the multiverse together 🤷‍♂️

Idk what is with the Scarlet Witch hate around here
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/25/2024, 4:50 AM
@MisterDoctor217 - The issue is that they haven't written her like Loki and rooted her villainy against those who has wronged or she at least feels has wronged her, like they did with Loki(with the exceptiion of Loki in Avengers 1). The only time they did that for Wanda was in Age Of Ultron, with her being against Stark for his weapons. Loki was always against Thor and Odin for the most part. That was his motivation for nearly every villainous action (main exception being Avengers, which was still against them in a way, but more just pointless killing of humans in pursuit of power). Wanda was fairly impersonal in her villainy. Civlians were harmed because she was selfish about her wants in WandaVision and in Doctor Strange 2, she's put against Strange, who we've never even see her meet, killing people that are mostly irrelevant to her, so she can kill a girl she doesn't know and take the life of another Wanda to have kids that aren't hers. It's all very meaningless to her character overall, in my opinion, and depending entirely on WandaVision events and an evil book to motivate her. It feels tacked on to me.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/25/2024, 4:52 AM
@MisterDoctor217 - Plus I think she wasn't as entertaining as a villain and wasn't portrayed as charming as Loki was. They went mostly for creepiness factor to me.
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 8/25/2024, 6:20 AM
@dagenspear -

I disagree, wholeheartedly 🤔
JobinJ
JobinJ - 8/25/2024, 8:27 AM
@MisterDoctor217 - I agree. Loki should have been killed a long time ago. But people like the character so they kept him at around. Dumb. He was a killer. And evil.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/25/2024, 8:32 AM
@MisterDoctor217 - About what?
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 8/25/2024, 8:42 AM
@JobinJ -


But why is it dumb if people like him? It’s a fictional character 🤔
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 8/25/2024, 8:42 AM
@dagenspear -

Everything lol regarding your opinion on the difference between Loki and Wanda
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/25/2024, 10:39 AM
@MisterDoctor217 - But Wanda wasn't going after a percieved enemy when she had control of that town, same with going after Strange and America.
JobinJ
JobinJ - 8/25/2024, 1:37 PM
@MisterDoctor217 - because it doesn’t show any consequences. The guy helped aliens invade New York City killing thousands. He killed agent Colson stabbed him. Someone who was a hero. He tried to kill Thor and the avengers. He’s a [frick]ing scumbag, but yet for some reason since people like the actor and the character, we’ve decided to forget all that and just, count all that up as a Whoopie Daisy (for $$$$$). It’s ridiculous.
JobinJ
JobinJ - 8/25/2024, 1:39 PM
@MisterDoctor217 - I mean, I know this is all make-believe and fictional, but like put yourselves in the shoes of peoples loved ones that were killed in New York City because of Lokis actions in avengers. When they see him gallivanting around with the avengers and sort of helping them and as a hero.

I’d be like why haven’t one of them, chopped this guy head off or thrown him in the bowels of some prison forever?
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 8/25/2024, 2:58 PM
@JobinJ -

I mean yes, they are horrible people and we shouldn’t idolize villains or bad people, but dude these are comic book movies. It’s just entertainment 😭

Villains are popular in the movie and comic book medium.
Just look at Joker lol
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