VISION QUEST Update Suggests The Disney+ Series Could Be Merged With THE CHILDREN'S CRUSADE

@TheUnworthyThor - I take vision over Wanda show any day

@MisterDoctor217 -

People enjoyed/liked both these characters during Phase 1-3

Loki is characterized as a tragic villain, he's a child born/raised with ideas of a glory he would never achieved. He acts recklessly for this attention and glory, getting in too deep as a servant of Thanos and eventually his actions result in the death of someone he cares about, his mother. Thor: The Dark World serves as his turning point where he faces consequences for his actions and notably puts aside his plans for power in order to help Thor defeat a greater threat, proving he is redeemable. While he still makes a grab for power that's contextualized as him just wanting to be acknowledged by people as shown in Thor: Ragnarok. He then has another sacrifice in Infinity War. His arc done, this version of Loki never returns.

People liked Wanda because she started off misguided and villainous, a child with a traumatic past that led her to have preconceived notions about Tony Stark and the Avengers and through being offered a family by the Avengers, she ended up being accepted and became one of them, only for this to collapse when she made a mistake in Captain America: Civil War. Suddenly Wanda is a risk to people, she's disliked, hated. Wanda has every reason to turn into a villain and leave, but she doesn't. Wanda stands up for what she knows is right and just. When the Black Order attack in Infinity War, Wanda is willing to sacrifice the person she 'loved' in order to save the universe and when that failed she was willing to go toe-to-toe with the person who forced her to make that sacrifice, Thanos, in Endgame. This is an extremely strong narrative about how a tortured child who is led on a villainous path can be redeemed by a supportive environment and how this child can become a hero.

THEN WandaVision comes along and she does horrific things. She entraps an entire town. She physically, mentally and emotionally tortures its entire population in order to relive a sitcom environment from her childhood. This should be treated as her relapsing because she's lost the person she cares about, instead the story uses it as a vehicle to introduce two new characters, fake children that she created. Suddenly the story has shifted, it's no longer about her loss but more to do with her delusional mind and desires of a future she was never going to have regardless.

Wandavision ends and she was supposed to be according to those involved a 'hero' despite torturing the entire town for what is implied to be at least a week or so and she's treated as if she's absolved of all her actions with "They'll never know what you sacrificed for them" as if Wanda was a victim. This already is a problem because it damages Wanda as a character, the story wants to have her as a sympathetic villain now but wants people to view her as a tortured hero and never has Wanda fully acknowledge or apologize for the horrors of what she did to the town.

Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness, broke Wanda completely. She's faced no punishment from Westview, something acknowledged by Doctor Strange. She's done horrific actions and gotten away with it, now she's going to do the same. The idea she's being manipulated by the Darkhold is thrown out almost instantly when Wanda's goals are personal to her, she no longer cares for Vision despite him being her primary light for multiple films/shows. The Darkhold is destroyed and we realize this isn't her being manipulated, this is what she wants, showing that she's just an irredeemable villain - yet the story thinks we sympathize with Wanda over the loss of her fake kids and treats her as having a tragic redemption at the end - but the audience has no sympathy for the character at this point because she's actively tortured and killed hundreds of characters including fan favorites and done so with glee.

TLDR:
• Loki was popular because he's was a tragic villain who eventually had a redemption. (Phase 1-3)
• Wanda was popular because she was a tortured soul who became a hero and despite temptation to fall back to villainy, rejected it and sacrificed everything she loved to save the universe (Phase 1-3)

Phase 4 destroyed these characters and now people only have an interest in them because they are arguably the best actors the MCU has as of Phase 4/5 currently. People can separate the Loki character from the utter abomination that is the Loki series because its' a variant of Loki, but for Wanda it's the same character we've followed so people dislike Wanda as a character.