WHAT IF...? "1872?" Spoiler Recap: Wild West Introduces Multiverse Saga Villain And Brings Back A Defender

WHAT IF...? "1872?" Spoiler Recap: Wild West Introduces Multiverse Saga Villain And Brings Back A Defender

The sixth episode of What If...? season 3 takes us to the Wild West and, as well as introducing an upcoming Multiverse Saga villain, we get a new spin on a fan-favourite Defender. Here's our full recap...

By JoshWilding - Dec 27, 2024 04:12 AM EST
Filed Under: What If

What If...? season 3's sixth episode, "What If... 1872?" opens in the Wild West where John Walker's posse rings a bell ten times (the "Ten Rings") to summon local hero Shang-Chi to their location. 

The Master of the Martial Arts makes short work of the baddies thanks to a helping hand from his partner Hawkeye, a.k.a. Kate Bishop. They're both looking for The Hood, a villain we know takes centre stage in the upcoming Ironheart TV series. 

The Watcher explains that things can get really weird in the furthest reaches of the Multiverse, hence a Wild West reality like this one (we even catch a glimpse of worlds where Ultron was programmed to sing show tunes and Throg battles Alligator Loki).

It's revealed that Shang-Chi's sister, Xu Xialing, fled to America for a better life only to become a victim of The Hood and his plans to victimise and vilify immigrants as a means to cement his power. 

Shang-Chi now searches for her while Kate's on a mission of revenge for the death of her family at the villain's hands. They find another decimated township and meet a young boy, Jun-Fan, who claims The Hood left on a ghost train (impressed by his martial arts knowledge, the heroes take him with them). 

They find the train which is seemingly being powered by repulsor tech; The Hood has stolen technology belonging to Tony Stark, Justin Hammer, Darren Cross and more, and those missing immigrants are all aboard and brainwashed. Sonny Burch appears and is revealed to be working for The Hood. Jun-Fan escapes but Shang-Chi and Hawkeye are taken to his boss. 

Pursued by Burch's men, things look bleak for Jun-Fan until The Watcher interferes again. As for Shang-Chi, he confronts The Hood and, following a fight that sees the villain turn invisible, the hero unmasks him and sees his sister's warped face staring back. She killed The Hood and stole his powers; the army she's amassed will help her make America the country she was promised. 

Burch confesses to killing Kate's parents and uses his pocket watch to control her like those kidnapped locals. Fortunately, Jun-Fan rings the bell and breaks its effects, allowing Hawkeye to knock the villain out and vow revenge. 

As for Shang-Chi, he refuses to join his sister and tries to bring her back to him. Xu Xialing, unfortunately, is too far gone but, just as she goes to kill her brother, Kate guns her down. The scars fade and the hood is blown away, leaving her to die in the cowboy's arms. 

He doesn't blame Kate and, later, she observes that the kid, Jun-Fan, has "iron fists." Yes, he's the same Jun-Fan from the comics who served as Iron Fist during the days of the Wild West!

As the episode ends, Shang-Chi and Hawkeye ride off into the sunset and The Watcher is captured by The Eminence and told he'll pay for his interference, with a few shards of the Observational Plane sent spilling into the Multiverse...

In a universe where the heroes of the MCU live in the Old West, Shang-Chi and his pistol-packing partner, Kate Bishop, traverse the frontier, saving the innocent from the evils of The Hood.

The cast in episode 6 includes Jeffrey Wright, Simu Liu, Hailee Steinfeld, Wyatt Russell, Meng’er Zhang, and Walton Goggins. The episode is directed by Stephan Franck and Bryan Andrews, with a story by Bryan Andrews, Matthew Chauncey, and Ryan Little, and a teleplay by Matthew Chauncey and Ryan Little.

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ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 12/27/2024, 4:39 AM
This show's trajectory should bring it on course with the MCU, setting up a collision for the end of the Multiverse Saga. It would be great to see live action versions of What If's varients......I would love to see Uatu in FFFS.
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 12/27/2024, 4:58 PM
@ProfessorWhy - I read that as "I would love to see Uatu for fricks sake" 😂
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 12/27/2024, 5:32 PM
@UncleHarm1 - Fantastic Four: Fuchs Sake
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 12/27/2024, 7:11 PM
@ProfessorWhy - That was the Josh Trank version right?
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 12/27/2024, 5:00 AM
This the kind of episode that's really cool, but again might as well have taken place in the Sacred Timeline with a few tweaks.
Corruptor
Corruptor - 12/27/2024, 8:18 AM
Where are Rawhide Kid, Two Gun Kid, Kid Colt and all the other "kids"?

We have a fine heritage of Western characters, without resorting to Master of Kung Fu doing the David Carradine thing... NO, not "that" thing.....!

Batmangina
Batmangina - 12/27/2024, 8:35 AM
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GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 12/27/2024, 10:56 AM
@Corruptor - "Where are Rawhide Kid, Two Gun Kid, Kid Colt and all the other "kids"?" They're all white males, so they gotta go!
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 12/27/2024, 11:45 AM
@GeneralZod - Sincere question: Do you find yourself incapable of enjoying shows with leads that don't look like you? Do you have difficulty relating to them? Or is it just a preference for white males?
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 12/27/2024, 11:58 AM
@Clintthahamster - Sigh. I will indulge you; responses in order of your questions: No. No. No.
Now my turn, and do indulge me with a simple yes or no: (1) when you ask whether I have a "preference for white males", does it completely go over your head that I have Colin Salmon's kickass Zod as my avatar? (2) do you think I am white?
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 12/27/2024, 12:20 PM
@GeneralZod - "Now my turn, and do indulge me with a simple yes or no"

No.

"when you ask whether I have a "preference for white males", does it completely go over your head that I have Colin Salmon's kickass Zod as my avatar?"

I had never heard of Colin Salmon before, but now that I've googled him, I see that he is a black man who played Zod on TV. Cool! But yes, that had escaped me. And it's not as though there aren't at least a handful of white dudes on this site with black avatars, not to mention black dudes with white avatars.

"do you think I am white?"

Yes, I assume that people complaining about the lack of white representation in TV and movies are white, because who else could look at an industry where the proportion of lead roles going to white people is increasing, not decreasing, and say "still not enough white people?"
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 12/27/2024, 12:33 PM
@Clintthahamster - Never assume something you don't see, my friend.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 12/27/2024, 1:46 PM
@GeneralZod - "Never assume something you don't see, my friend."

You mean like assuming that Marvel didn't include three obscure Western characters in What If because of a conspiracy to exclude white males from their shows, and not because those characters are completely irrelevant to past, present, and future plans for the MCU? Agreed. That would be foolish.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 12/27/2024, 2:27 PM
@Clintthahamster - Oh, but i'm not assuming anything and am relying on the leaked Disney DEI casting/production policy (which I'm not going to reproduce for the 15th time; you can search it on your own, just Google "Disney DEI content policy"), which is full blown reverse racial and gender discrimination. So, yes, it is a conspiracy by Disney-owned Marvel Studios to exclude many, if not most, white males from their shows since 2020. Go read it. Anyway, DEI is dei'ing, so this race- and gender-based nonsense will soon come to an end.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 12/27/2024, 2:51 PM
@GeneralZod - "just Google "Disney DEI content policy"), which is full blown reverse racial and gender discrimination."

Okay, I googled it. I found lots of articles talking about the diversity of their existing work force, and their commitment to telling stories featuring a wide range of cultures and ethnicities. What I wasn't able to find was anything close to a policy of excluding white people from work. Unless you look at any opportunity for non-white folks as taking an opportunity away from white people, which would be a pretty childish, simplistic way to look at it.

"DEI is dei'ing, so this race- and gender-based nonsense will soon come to an end."

If you're saying that corporations have decided that it isn't monetarily advantageous to tout efforts at diversity, you are correct. We're definitely on course to get back to the good old days when white European was the default race, and male was the default gender. Enjoy!
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 12/27/2024, 3:08 PM
@Clintthahamster - "I found lots of articles ...." Not an article. It's a chart with the Disney logo on it. Search under images.

"We're definitely on course to get back to the good old days when white European was the default race, and male was the default gender."
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Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 12/27/2024, 4:09 PM
@GeneralZod - "Not an article. It's a chart with the Disney logo on it. Search under images."

Man, what a journey! Okay, I found it. From what I can tell, here's the sequence of events:

20 Sep, 2020: ABC publicly announces their new inclusion standards, as reported in the Hollywood Reporter and later Variety. No one gives a shit.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/abc-unveils-ambitious-set-of-inclusion-standards-exclusive-4069409/

12 Dec, 2023: Someone reposts it on r/[frick]disney on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/[frick]disney/comments/18h2vib/this_is_disneys_inclusion_standards_launched_at

6 Feb, 2024: Elon Musk claims that someone has "leaked" Disney's policy to him, when in fact it's the four-plus year old, publicly available ABC document with the words "Disney General Entertainment Content" pasted over the ABC Entertainment logo.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2024/02/08/musk-rages-against-disneys-dei-gestapo-and-doubles-down-on-anti-diversity-crusade/

Later the same day, an editor-at-large for the Hollywood reporter makes fun of him for falling for such an obvious ruse.
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/elon-musk-disney-hollywood-reporter-b2493451.html

12 Dec 2024: Dudes on the internet continue to believe that it's true of Disney as a whole, despite there being multiple releases from Disney owned shingles just in the last year that would violate multiple tenets of said policy (Poor Things, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, A Complete Unknown, and, um, Deadpool & Wolverine, among others)
https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/what-if/what-if-1872-spoiler-recap-wild-west-introduces-multiverse-saga-villain-and-brings-back-a-defender-a215284

Is that about right?

As for Crockett and Tubbs, I'll see you and raise.

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GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 12/27/2024, 4:40 PM
@Clintthahamster - You missed the race discrimination lawsuit filed against Disney in February 2024 for that very policy that leaked. That lawsuit is pending.

And you also conveniently omitted these great shows from the 30- to 50-years ago range (the first one hands-down my favorite after-school TV show) ... remember that it's OK to have a TV show at a bar in Boston with a bunch of white yuppies and white intellectuals and no black characters, and, conversely, a TV show about a black family with no white characters. Or ... mixing it up. But keep thinking that "[w]e're definitely on course to get back to the good old days when white European was the default race" in a country that is close to 60% white, 20% Latino and 13% Black.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGmf5-fUYK3Sxv-vW3gqRDByul-ok23KkRdA&s
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GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 12/27/2024, 4:43 PM
@Clintthahamster - EDIT -- this was my fav after-school TV show. Great writing, and always had a morality lesson.
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Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 12/27/2024, 5:04 PM
@GeneralZod - "You missed the race discrimination lawsuit filed against Disney in February 2024 for that very policy that leaked. That lawsuit is pending."

Ha ha, holy shit, yeah I did. You're talking about this one?
https://aflegal.org/america-first-legal-files-federal-civil-rights-complaint-against-the-walt-disney-company-for-illegal-race-and-sex-discrimination/

I'm afraid that Stephen Miller doesn't have standing in that case, though it was definitely a nice publicity stunt for Trump's campaign. But, again, nothing leaked. Elon Musk posted a doctored photo of a publicly available memo from five years ago.

"you also conveniently omitted these great shows from the 30- to 50-years ago range"

Yes, it's true, I was looking for examples that gave credence to my position, and you did the same. It's still the fact that white folks were overrepresented on mainstream, primetime TV for most of the first 50 years of television, and most of the last 25.

"this was my fav after-school TV show. Great writing, and always had a morality lesson."

I missed the window on What's Happening (a little too young for first run, a little too old for reruns [pun only slightly intended]) but The Cosby Show, A Different World, and 227 were absolutely my shit in the 80s. Saying that white folks were overrepresented in primetime is not the same thing as saying that there were no black people on television.
MadThanos
MadThanos - 12/27/2024, 8:21 AM
That was a nice episode.

The Watcher is definitely in a bad spot with his people now.
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 12/27/2024, 5:06 PM
@MadThanos - After masochistically reading 10 pages of @Clintthahamster and @GeneralZod's debate class transcript, this pleasantly un-political comment threw me for a loop.

People actually discuss the content of a show still?? But what about the implications?

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