SPIDER-MAN Star Tom Holland Reportedly Shot A Cameo For VENOM But Disney Made Sony Remove It

SPIDER-MAN Star Tom Holland Reportedly Shot A Cameo For VENOM But Disney Made Sony Remove It

There were rumours for a long time that Peter Parker/Spider-Man was set to make a cameo appearance in Venom, and a new report claims that Tom Holland did shoot something...that Disney decided to scrap!

By JoshWilding - Aug 29, 2019 02:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Venom
Source: Collider
Venom wasn't exactly a masterpiece, but a lot of fans out there are still anxious to see Tom Holland's Spider-Man cross paths with Tom Hardy's Eddie Brock. Heading into the 2018 release, there were rumblings that Peter Parker could make an appearance in the movie, with seemingly reliable sources stating that he would be among the students on a field trip to the Life Foundation.

Well, it's now claimed that this was indeed the plan, and Holland actually shot a cameo of some sort. 

However, Disney and Marvel Studios reportedly didn't want the two franchises to be linked (as it would insinuate that Venom was part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe), so they pushed Sony into dropping that cameo from the final cut. With Spider-Man now heading back to the "Spider-Verse," the two characters meeting is a given and it could happen as soon as the wall-crawler's next movie.

You can't blame Disney for not wanting Holland to make a cameo in Venom, but now that Spider-Man is a wanted criminal after his identity was outed by Mysterio, there's a good chance a "Lethal Protector" like Eddie Brock could head to New York City looking to take down Peter Parker. 

We'll be sure to keep you guys updated! 

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know so far about Spider-Man's departure from the MCU!

Two More Spider-Man Movies Are In The Works

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As of right now, director Jon Watts reportedly does NOT have a deal to return, while Tom Holland's status is somewhat up in the air. Chances are the actor is locked in, though, and we can probably assume that the other key cast members have multi-picture deals that will also require them to come back for at least one more film, regardless of how they feel about this news. 

Sony has made it clear in statements released since this story broke that they plan to continue on the path Marvel Studios put them on, so at least that Far From Home cliffhanger won't be left unresolved. 

However, it was Kevin Feige who decided to out Spider-Man's secret identity to his aunt (and probably the world as well), and with the wall-crawler no longer lined up to be the MCU's new Tony Stark, Sony Pictures has some serious explaining to do when it comes to where his story goes next. 
 

Disney Is Just As Much To Blame As Sony

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If you take a look at social media and the "#SpiderMan" hashtag, Sony Pictures is taking an absolute pounding from fans. That would explain why they've released multiple statements pointing to Disney being to blame for what's happened, and, as hard as it may be to admit given Sony's frustrating track record, they make a valid point. 

Disney has gone from receiving 5% of first dollar gross to wanting 50%, and that's a big ask for Sony Pictures, especially when Spider-Man is their most successful franchise and this new deal would have likely extended to all those live-action spinoffs as well. 

While Disney should be compensated for Marvel Studios' role in the Spider-Man movies (they do everything from providing the concept art to hiring talent, and come up with everything we see in terms of the creative), half of the profits is a lot - especially when they already own the character's merchandising rights. 
 

The Talks Have Been Taking Place For Months

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This isn't a sudden decision on anyone's part. Talks between Sony and Disney have been taking place for months now, but the two sides simply can't agree. While Sony offered Disney the same deal they have now, they weren't willing to budge, and despite Sony claiming that "negotiations are ongoing," multiple outlets confirm that no talks are happening right now.

Now, there's no reason to suspect that they won't pick up again at some point, but Sony's latest statement makes it sound pretty definitive and it feels like they're leaving the ball in Disney's court.

Ultimately, both sides need to stop and think about whether it's worth compromising. Sony is said to be confident that they can manage without Marvel's help (especially after the success of Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse and Venom), but just how much will the MCU suffer without Spidey? 
 

Is Kevin Feige Being Spread Too Thin? 

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One report states that Disney is concerned that Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige is doing too much. As well as the Marvel movies, he now has an entire slate of Disney+ TV shows to oversee, and they're understandably unwilling for those to suffer in terms of quality so he can help another studio's franchise that they receive only a very small amount of money from. 

Sony alluded to this in a statement when they essentially blamed the arrival of the X-Men and Fantastic Four in the MCU on Feige simply not having time to be named a producer on future Spider-Man films. Feige is definitely a busy man, but this feels like spin on Sony's part and a way of shifting the blame for them not wanting to pay Disney what they want to keep him around.
 

What Those Sony Statements Actually Reveal...

Sony


Sony issued a number of statements last night, and there's a surprising amount to unpack in them.

The first claimed that the "dispute is simply over a producer credit and negotiations are ongoing" before adding that Feige has worked on a number of Sony's Marvel movies without receiving that credit. In other words, they were trying to downplay the situation and make it sound like he could still be involved in some capacity moving forward (don't bank on that). 

The second followed multiple reports that this split is happening, and very much pinned the blame on Disney while also confirming that the franchise will continue.

Disney got greedy, but Sony got stupid, and it's hard to escape the feeling that much of what we're seeing is a public negotiating tactic which will force one, or both, sides to reconsider their stance. 
 

Kevin Feige's Role In Sony's Spider-Verse

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According to both Sony and a number of reliable sources, Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige has been helping the studio with their Marvel properties for quite some time now. This isn't exactly breaking news because we know Sony asked for his input/advice on The Amazing Spider-Man movies; the Sony/Disney deal meant he was given full creative control and not ignored, though. 

One report reveals that Feige even consulted on Venom, but it was Sony Pictures boss Tom Rothman who was ultimately sitting in the editing room figuring out the final cut of the critically panned release. He was in charge of Fox for "Barakapool" and the Fantastic Four reboot so he's clearly no Feige, but, to his credit, he reportedly did offer Disney a number of options which they later refused. 

Don't bank on Disney allowing Feige to offer any sort of input in the future, though, because just  as Fantastic Four comics vanished from shelves when Fox had plans for the characters, Marvel and Disney no longer have a reason to help them. Sony appears to be aware of that, too, as they've said, "we are grateful for his help and guidance and appreciate the path he has helped put us on."
 

Tom Rothman, Amy Pascal, And Sony's Future Spider-Man Plans

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What comes next is hard to say, and is something we'll be exploring a little later today. However, what we do know is that the current Spider-Man franchise is expected to continue and that Amy Pascal, who has produced the wall-crawler's last two adventures alongside Kevin Feige, will remain in that role. There's been no mention of Avi Arad, but he's bound to want to get involved. 

We may or may not get some updates over the coming days, but Sony's statement was pretty definitive and Marvel Studios/Disney has yet to comment on the situation. For now, though, don't be shocked if we're left in the dark as talks (hopefully) begin to place again behind the scenes.

How do you guys feel about what's happening with Spider-Man? Let us know in the below and continue reading to see how Far From Home set up the hero's (now non-existent?) MCU future!
 

Spider-Man: Menace

Spidey-Handcuffs


Thanks to Mysterio's master manipulation, the world believes that he was a hero who saved the world and that Spider-Man killed him because he wants to become the next Tony Stark. A huge part of Quentin Beck's mission here is to prove that people will believe anything they're told, and it's clear now that the public (and authorities) will view the wall-crawler as a menace. 

That's something his comic book counterpart has been going through for decades now, and Spidey being chased down by the cops (and even his fellow heroes) is a common sight. 

However, the big change here is that his secret identity has also been outed and that's going to change Peter Parker's status quo in a major way; he can't hide behind a mask, and is surely going to have to go on the run. He might deny the accusations, of course, but that would feel like something of a cop out on Marvel's part.
 

The Daily Bugle Is Back

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Perhaps the biggest shocker in the mid-credits scene is the fact that J. Jonah Jameson is back (and played by J.K. Simmons!) and The Daily Bugle is now a website. As of right now, we don't know whether either Jameson or the Bugle will return in the future, as this could have very easily been a one-off cameo to make comic book fans happy.

In the MCU, Peter doesn't have any sort of relationship with Jameson, so including him in future adventures could feel a little forced. However, even just the odd appearance on TV as he continues bashing Spider-Man would be a fun to see, and wouldn't require a lot of time from Simmons. With The Daily Bugle part of this shared world now, though, there are a lot of very exciting possibilities. 
 

Spider-Sense

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During the movie's final act, the web-slinger finally gains control of his Spider-Sense (or Peter-Tingle) and uses it to navigate Mysterio's drone attack. There have been hints that it exists before now, but this hopefully means it will play a larger role in his adventures moving forward. 

While Spidey being able to dodge every attack would be a little boring, the hero is definitely more confident now and so having the precognitive ability would be an exciting addition and gives Marvel Studios the opportunity to show off an interesting new side to Peter's powers. 
 

Nick Fury...In Space!

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The movie's post-credits scene may be played for laughs, but it also reveals that Nick Fury has been commanding a Skrull spaceship in outer space. The fact that Talos and Soren are on Earth doesn't really mean much (especially when they're still heroes and not about to embark on any sort of "Secret Invasion"), but Fury heading into space could definitely come into play somewhere down the line.

After all, it doesn't seem like he's interested in coming home, and after Captain Marvel was praised for the dynamic between Carol Danvers and the then S.H.I.E.L.D. agent, common sense says we'll see them team-up in the present day, this time on Carol's turf!
 

Mysterio...Lives?

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Mysterio appeared to be dead as a doornail the last time we saw him, but should we really buy into that? After all, this is Quentin Beck, a character who has routinely faked his demise and was even resurrected at one point after blowing his brains out in front of Daredevil. 

Seeing as he's responsible for outing Spider-Man's secret identity to the world, there's definitely unfinished business here, and while Spider-Man: Far From Home doesn't exactly set the stage for the Sinister Six, it would be crazy for Mysterio not to be part of that villainous team.
 

Kree Sleeper Cells On Earth

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During a conversation between Nick Fury (Talos) and Maria Hill (Soren), we learn that there are Kree sleeper cells on Earth. This may seem like a throwaway mention, but Marvel Studios must have known that fans would pick up on this and it's impossible to imagine there not being some sort of pay off.

Captain Marvel 2 seems like the most realistic option, but it could just be that following Thanos' devastating attack on the entire universe, a lot of aliens have now gravitated to our planet. That sets the stage for both the Kree/Skrull War (2?) and even Secret Invasion. We'll have to wait and see. 
 

Aftermath Of The Blip

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Spider-Man: Far From Home only briefly touches on the aftermath of Avengers: Endgame and mostly in a comical fashion. However, it's clear that the world has gone through some changes and it would be very surprising not to see this continue to be touched upon. 

While it seems we've already had our answers about how everyone returned after being dusted, the fact that the world thinks Captain America is dead is bound to be addressed in Falcon & The Winter Soldier on Disney+, and it doesn't seem like a stretch to believe that Doctor Strange might be dealing with an even greater level of guilt than Peter Parker in his sequel over what happened to Iron Man.
 

Romance For Peter And MJ

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MJ may be a very different take on the version of the character we know from the comic books, but she and Peter have clearly fallen for each other and that sets the stage for one of the Marvel Universe's greatest romances to play out in the MCU moving forward. 

There's a lot of potential here, especially now that Spider-Man's identity has been outed, and it will be interesting to see the impact that has on their budding romance. Someone not quite so lucky in love is Happy Hogan, as the movie makes it clear that May just viewed their relationship as a summer fling. So, chances are things between them won't continue to develop in future instalments. 
 

Hydro-Man's Return

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Shortly after the water Elemental attacks Venice, Flash Thompson reads out a report from Buzzfeed which mistakenly claims that it must have been Morris Bench, a criminal with water powers. There's nothing to say we'll necessarily see the real Hydro-Man enter the MCU, but the fact that he exists is definitely intriguing, and he could easily end up being a member of the Sinister Six or a even just a hired thug.

Time will tell, but with no mention of The Vulture or Scorpion in the movie, there's a strong possibility that this reference to another of Spidey's villains could be more significant than it initially seems.
 

Avengers Disassembled

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One thing that's clear in Spider-Man: Far From Home is that The Avengers are definitely disassembled, because they're not there to help battle The Elementals and Talos makes it clear at the end of the movie that he had no idea what to tell people when they asked.

It seems Earth's Mightiest Heroes went their separate ways following the events of Avengers: Endgame, and the stage is now set for a new team to come together...or for a certain villain to create his own dark roster. Either way, while Spidey seemed like a prime candidate to lead the team after getting E.D.I.T.H., there's no way that's happening now he's been framed as a murderer. 
 
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tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 3:01 AM
Tom Holland played Tom Hardy's son in the excellent (but criminally under-seen) Locke, which had Hardy's best performance yet. Really hope they give Hardy actual material to work with next time if he's really gonna keep doing these films instead of more interesting projects.
dracula
dracula - 8/29/2019, 3:03 AM
Give it a few years and Sony's continued stupidity will force them to sell their film division to Universal or Warner Brothers and Spiderman will be returned to Marvel. Although by then not sure how they will be able to fit Tom Holland back in after a few years of absence
Kleytus
Kleytus - 8/29/2019, 3:05 AM
Well the crossover is now a given, so just wait for the hows and whens.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 8/29/2019, 7:03 AM
@Kleytus - At least we are going to get a venom and symbiote storyline, unlike the MCU if he were to stay there. I would love to see a new take on the spiderman vs venom storyline especially that we have 2 great actors too.

Also you can't do a spider-verse story in the MCU IMO, and that needs to happen too.
Humperdink
Humperdink - 8/29/2019, 7:42 AM
@mastakilla39 - @Kleytus At least we are going to get a venom and symbiote storyline.


We have to have higher standards than that. I don't want to just GET a Venom story, I want to get a GREAT Venom story. Otherwise we're encouraging SONY to rush things again (like the crossovers before they've actually cemented the character) and to be honest, this line of thinking is why we can't have good things.

Don't settle for "a symbiote storyline". Any studio could do that. Want a good Venom movie and so far there hasn't been one.

mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 8/29/2019, 8:25 AM
@Humperdink - But no one knows how their films are going to turn out. Sony lent spiderman out to Marvel for 5 films, while interning and working with the MCU's creative team. If Jon Watts and his writers who have experience working within the MCU are launching the Sonyverse it's in capable hands. Sony owns all the characters and storylines so Jon Watts or any other director doesn't have to worry about making a film that has to fit into the MCU. They just have to focus on making good films with their exclusive characters.

Marvel only created a spiderman that worked for the MCU by skating around Peter’s origin and substituting characters that they don’t own like Uncle Ben and Mary Jane Watson. Now that Spiderman has returned home, we can actually see them utilize the full library of the Spiderman characters.
Kleytus
Kleytus - 8/29/2019, 5:03 PM
@mastakilla39 - True that, so glad that Sony can get this take, the MCU is too busy to handle this (and also Feige doesn't seem to have a particular liking for symbiotes).
Kleytus
Kleytus - 8/29/2019, 5:06 PM
@Humperdink - We all want the best Venom story possible, specially fans of the character.

Looks like Sony is trying their best to pull in the best talent possible, and are not rushing the production, so I'm hopeful their next films can take some steps up on the quality stairs.
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 8/30/2019, 3:02 PM
@mastakilla39 - and what makes you think that Sony won't fuk it up again
tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 3:07 AM
@dracula - Why do you want a company to go under, with thousands of jobs being lost, and the film industry to be an even tighter oligopoly? Just because of [frick]ing Spider-Man? A character the MCU doesn't even really need? Also, people keep forgetting that Sony released the best movie of the year so far:

So they can't be that stupid.
RageDriver2401
RageDriver2401 - 8/29/2019, 3:14 AM
@tmp3 - "Also, people keep forgetting that Sony released the best movie of the year so far:"

Is this movie a joke to you?
Humperdink
Humperdink - 8/29/2019, 6:27 AM
@tmp3 -

Why do you want a company to go under, with thousands of jobs being lost, and the film industry to be an even tighter oligopoly?


I personally don't want Sony to fail but a film studios drive should be to make great films not just "be there" to keep Disney from taking over while producing mediocre or terrible films. May as well disappear if that's the case and if they go under it will entirely be their own fault not the public. They're not owed our money and support in spite of the poor decisions they make. The film industry isn't a charity and Hollywood isn't full of saints.

The company should be concerned about the jobs of its employees and make the moves to keep them. If Sony fails on its own merits that means the people who lose jobs will just have to find new ones just like what happens to the rest of us when we're in that situation.

If Tom Rothman is making the same mistakes he did when he was at FOX and Avi Arad is still mishandling the Spider-Man franchise they're doomed to fail Spider-man at the very least.

mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 8/29/2019, 8:16 AM
@Humperdink - But no one knows how their films are going to turn out. Sony lent spiderman out to Marvel for 5 films and while interning and working with the MCU's creative team. If Jon Watts and his writers who have experience working within the MCU are going to launch the Sonyverse in the same way the worked on the most recent films it's in capable hands. Sony actually owns all the characters and storylines, so Jon Watts or any other director doesn't have to worry about making a film that will fit into the MCU. They just have to make a good Spider-Man film.

The MCU only created a spiderman that worked for their universe by skating around his origin and substituting their MCU characters for the spiderman characters that actually matter to Peter like Uncle Ben and Mary Jane Watson. Now that Spiderman has returned to Sony, we can actually see the full library of Spiderman characters get utilize.
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 8/30/2019, 3:02 PM
@tmp3 - Marvel does need Spider-Man just like DC needs Batman they both go together like peanut butter and jelly
RageDriver2401
RageDriver2401 - 8/29/2019, 3:09 AM
I have a feeling they'll just end up rebooting Spider-Man again and a new actor will play Spider-Man for Hardy's Venom. Remember, Sony has already scraped a sequel to Spider-Man 3 and there were a total of 5 TASM films planned. These suits are dumb enough to do anything at any time.
tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 3:11 AM
@KingCipher - I used to like Hardy, but Locke made him one of my favorite actors working, and Fury Road the next year only cemented that
SimplyAz
SimplyAz - 8/29/2019, 3:18 AM
@NateBest IS there any update on fixing the issues on this site dude?

NateBest
NateBest - 8/29/2019, 1:07 PM
@SimplyAz - It's a work-in-progress. I should have an update in place by the weekend (reworking all of the server data caching...)
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/29/2019, 3:22 AM
@tmp3 - Tarantino released the “best” movie of the year. Tarantino can go to any studio to distribute his movies. Stop acting like he’s in anyway dependent on a shitty studio like Sony.
Kurne
Kurne - 8/29/2019, 3:28 AM
They're trying to screw up the third Spidey film. For the third time.
Kurne
Kurne - 8/29/2019, 3:28 AM
It's literally all the same people behind it as well.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 8/29/2019, 3:31 AM
Can Disney even do that? They didn't own the rights to Spidey. Can't Sony do what they want with him outside the MCU?

Maybe it went outside the confines of his contract.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 8/29/2019, 3:32 AM
The fact that Sony may have tried this does not bode well for the future of live action Spidey films there
tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 3:35 AM
@PlusUltra - I don't think any studio is altruistic, but Sony's one of the only ones that still produces adult dramas that cost more than $10m. The only other studio that was in talks to buy that film was WB, and if Sony goes out then it's just gonna be one company making all of those kinds of films, which isn't a good thing at all.

@RageDriver2401 - I love Endgame, probably #2 or 3 for me, but it's not as good as OUATIH imo
Jeight8
Jeight8 - 8/29/2019, 3:36 AM
Some people act like Holland's version is Sony's version of Spider-man. He is not. He is MCU's. He appeared in Civil War and he was cast by Russos screentesting opposite Evans and RDJ. By putting him in a non-MCU movie be Venom Marvel is risking associating their product with a critically panned film.

Feige isn't gonna have that. He has given blood and tears for the MCU, he wont have the audience mistaking Venom as part of the MCU.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 8/29/2019, 3:38 AM
Disney messed up so much with Spider-man, they were so unsure of themselves that they purposefully ended the MCU films on cliffhangers to keep the audience wanting another film rather than delivering satisfying conclusions that would feel finalised if they lost Spider-man.

Now we have a continuity breaking ending for Far From Home and Disney is entirely to blame.
Kurne
Kurne - 8/29/2019, 3:48 AM
@Scarilian - why are you making all these dumbass assumptions again?
Scarilian
Scarilian - 8/29/2019, 4:36 AM
@Kurne -
Think, rather than insult. Then you'll understand.

Companies baiting people with sequels to secure a sequel happens almost constantly. Want to find out how this concludes? Support it enough and maybe we'll get another series or a sequel or basically any other continuation.

Here is why the MCU continuity is doomed;
Disney can no longer reference, acknowledge or refer to Spider-man in canon in the MCU from the point of the deal seperating.

Spider-man was labelled as an attempted mass murderer, the IRL breakdown of the deal means he has to stay that way. No development, no updates, no fallout.

The natural result of this would be tighter legislation on the heroes coupled with basically a massive distrust forming against heroes. Yet none of this can happen because they cannot acknowledge why it would be happening.

Worse still is that the main hero of the MCU in the publics eyes has just passed from Iron Man to Mysterio. The world wanted a new Iron Man, someone else to look up to. Mysterio delivered that. Sure Iron Man and the Avengers saved them all from the blip, but Mysterio just stopped a fellow hero going rogue and slaughtering all of London.

Mysterio is the foundation of the MCU going forward, when people think of heroes they think of the guy who stopped Spider-man from slaughtering all of London.

How in the absolute frick do you possibly expect them to tackle this in the MCU now that they have lost the rights to Spider-man and the ability to even reference it as happening?

Narratively they have commited suicide they cannot go forward without addressing it. They have wrote themselves into a cliffhanger that fundamentally changes the entirety of the MCU going forward.
dracula
dracula - 8/29/2019, 3:39 AM
@tmp3 - to be clear, im not actually rooting for it t go under and for people to loose their jobs, just saying if it happens Disney gets Spider-Man back. There have been talk of Sony selling off its film division in the past, and their movies are rarely making money. If they can turn things around and they start putting out quality films again then great, but if things don't change, i'd expect them to be sold off within 10 years
Jeight8
Jeight8 - 8/29/2019, 3:40 AM
Spider-man doesn't need to be front and center. Traditional comic popularities are gone. The Avengers are the most popular team in the world, not JL. Guardians are more popular than X-men. Iron Man , Cap and Thor were the pillars of the Infinity Saga not Spider-man, Wolverine or Hulk.

Just because spider-man is huge it doesn't mean he is gonna be front and center in the MCU. Comic popularity doesn't matter ina universe where Iron Man 3 and Black Panther are the top 2 highest grossing solo cbms, not Batman or Spider-man...
Noobmaster69
Noobmaster69 - 8/29/2019, 5:23 AM
@Jeight8 - I'm not talking about comic popularity. You wrongly assumed I was referring to the literary side of Spider-Man's legacy. I have no idea why you gleaned all that from my post. It's all good, though. I was just commenting on behalf of my own sensibilities on who I believe is the ideal candidate to carry the MCU on their back, after Robert Downey Jr. vacated that position like a boss.

But of course I know all too well that Marvel's holy trinity of Cap, Tony, and Thor pulled central focus in the first three phases. All I'm saying is that Spidey deserves the top spot at the head of the table because there's no other character better suited for this job, narratively and personally speaking. Yes, there will be ensemble films tailored around multiple lead characters at a time. Arguably, there can only be one MCU mascot who is seen as the premier through-line for several cycles of new phases.

Out of Cap, Iron Man, and Thor, most fans believe that Tony Stark was the mainstay/audience surrogate/helmsman for 11 straight years. Although, Cap is my favorite Avenger, I would have to agree that Robert was the top-billing star for good reason. Tons of fans, like myself, feel that Spidey is a natural and worthy successor to Tony. The past 5 MCU films featuring Peter set this exact idea up perfectly. He is the most salivated over superhero worldwide. Who better to usher in the next decade of Marvel Studios' supremacy than our friendly neighborhood Spider-Man?
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 8/29/2019, 3:42 AM
I don't know who said it before, but it would be fun to see Tom Holland playing Tom Holland in the MCU
Noobmaster69
Noobmaster69 - 8/29/2019, 3:50 AM
Disney and Sony better find a way to renegotiate for the survival of Spider-man in our beloved MCU! I say this as someone who absolutely adores the entire catalog of Spider-Man films ranging from Raimi's Trilogy, Webb's Duology, Spider-Verse, to Watts' recent flicks. Keep in mind that the best Spider-Man TV series ever made was produced solely by Sony. Credit where credit is due. Spider-Man needs to be front and center as the new face of the MCU, going forward. Peter Parker is the one true successor to Anthony Stark! Make mine Marvel, Disney and Sony! Give us the Spider-Man we truly deserve as loyal fans!





PicolasCage
PicolasCage - 8/29/2019, 3:54 AM
And thank god they did. I’m scared to see what horseshit unshackled Sony will come up with.

dracula
dracula - 8/29/2019, 3:54 AM
@malesia012 pretty sure if Sony's film division is sold, the rights revert back to marvel. that's what would have happened if someone else bought fox. Seems like that would have to happen for Spiderman to go back to marvel, I doubt disney would be allowed to buy another company
TMW1987ProudProWrestlingFan
TMW1987ProudProWrestlingFan - 8/29/2019, 3:56 AM
They didn't want the cameo when thy saw how bad & awful Venom was. Had it have been a better film, they might have come to terms on leaving him in. Feige knows something that looks shit when he sees it.

Sony needs help on Venom 2 but too stubborn to realise. Don't care about box office (Yes, I know that's the main thing), but care about quality & Venom did not deserve to make what it made in terms of box office.

Not hyped for Holland to be involved with Venom 2 or bringing Venom into their third Spider-Man film unless Sony works something out to be working with Disney / Marvel Studios again & get help on both / either.

F uck Sony! F uck Tom Rothman!
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