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tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 3:01 AM
Tom Holland played Tom Hardy's son in the excellent (but criminally under-seen) Locke, which had Hardy's best performance yet. Really hope they give Hardy actual material to work with next time if he's really gonna keep doing these films instead of more interesting projects.
dracula
dracula - 8/29/2019, 3:03 AM
Give it a few years and Sony's continued stupidity will force them to sell their film division to Universal or Warner Brothers and Spiderman will be returned to Marvel. Although by then not sure how they will be able to fit Tom Holland back in after a few years of absence
Kleytus
Kleytus - 8/29/2019, 3:05 AM
Well the crossover is now a given, so just wait for the hows and whens.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 8/29/2019, 7:03 AM
@Kleytus - At least we are going to get a venom and symbiote storyline, unlike the MCU if he were to stay there. I would love to see a new take on the spiderman vs venom storyline especially that we have 2 great actors too.

Also you can't do a spider-verse story in the MCU IMO, and that needs to happen too.
Humperdink
Humperdink - 8/29/2019, 7:42 AM
@mastakilla39 - @Kleytus At least we are going to get a venom and symbiote storyline.


We have to have higher standards than that. I don't want to just GET a Venom story, I want to get a GREAT Venom story. Otherwise we're encouraging SONY to rush things again (like the crossovers before they've actually cemented the character) and to be honest, this line of thinking is why we can't have good things.

Don't settle for "a symbiote storyline". Any studio could do that. Want a good Venom movie and so far there hasn't been one.

mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 8/29/2019, 8:25 AM
@Humperdink - But no one knows how their films are going to turn out. Sony lent spiderman out to Marvel for 5 films, while interning and working with the MCU's creative team. If Jon Watts and his writers who have experience working within the MCU are launching the Sonyverse it's in capable hands. Sony owns all the characters and storylines so Jon Watts or any other director doesn't have to worry about making a film that has to fit into the MCU. They just have to focus on making good films with their exclusive characters.

Marvel only created a spiderman that worked for the MCU by skating around Peter’s origin and substituting characters that they don’t own like Uncle Ben and Mary Jane Watson. Now that Spiderman has returned home, we can actually see them utilize the full library of the Spiderman characters.
Kleytus
Kleytus - 8/29/2019, 5:03 PM
@mastakilla39 - True that, so glad that Sony can get this take, the MCU is too busy to handle this (and also Feige doesn't seem to have a particular liking for symbiotes).
Kleytus
Kleytus - 8/29/2019, 5:06 PM
@Humperdink - We all want the best Venom story possible, specially fans of the character.

Looks like Sony is trying their best to pull in the best talent possible, and are not rushing the production, so I'm hopeful their next films can take some steps up on the quality stairs.
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 8/30/2019, 3:02 PM
@mastakilla39 - and what makes you think that Sony won't fuk it up again
tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 3:07 AM
@dracula - Why do you want a company to go under, with thousands of jobs being lost, and the film industry to be an even tighter oligopoly? Just because of [frick]ing Spider-Man? A character the MCU doesn't even really need? Also, people keep forgetting that Sony released the best movie of the year so far:

So they can't be that stupid.
RageDriver2401
RageDriver2401 - 8/29/2019, 3:14 AM
@tmp3 - "Also, people keep forgetting that Sony released the best movie of the year so far:"

Is this movie a joke to you?
Humperdink
Humperdink - 8/29/2019, 6:27 AM
@tmp3 -

Why do you want a company to go under, with thousands of jobs being lost, and the film industry to be an even tighter oligopoly?


I personally don't want Sony to fail but a film studios drive should be to make great films not just "be there" to keep Disney from taking over while producing mediocre or terrible films. May as well disappear if that's the case and if they go under it will entirely be their own fault not the public. They're not owed our money and support in spite of the poor decisions they make. The film industry isn't a charity and Hollywood isn't full of saints.

The company should be concerned about the jobs of its employees and make the moves to keep them. If Sony fails on its own merits that means the people who lose jobs will just have to find new ones just like what happens to the rest of us when we're in that situation.

If Tom Rothman is making the same mistakes he did when he was at FOX and Avi Arad is still mishandling the Spider-Man franchise they're doomed to fail Spider-man at the very least.

mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 8/29/2019, 8:16 AM
@Humperdink - But no one knows how their films are going to turn out. Sony lent spiderman out to Marvel for 5 films and while interning and working with the MCU's creative team. If Jon Watts and his writers who have experience working within the MCU are going to launch the Sonyverse in the same way the worked on the most recent films it's in capable hands. Sony actually owns all the characters and storylines, so Jon Watts or any other director doesn't have to worry about making a film that will fit into the MCU. They just have to make a good Spider-Man film.

The MCU only created a spiderman that worked for their universe by skating around his origin and substituting their MCU characters for the spiderman characters that actually matter to Peter like Uncle Ben and Mary Jane Watson. Now that Spiderman has returned to Sony, we can actually see the full library of Spiderman characters get utilize.
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 8/30/2019, 3:02 PM
@tmp3 - Marvel does need Spider-Man just like DC needs Batman they both go together like peanut butter and jelly
RageDriver2401
RageDriver2401 - 8/29/2019, 3:09 AM
I have a feeling they'll just end up rebooting Spider-Man again and a new actor will play Spider-Man for Hardy's Venom. Remember, Sony has already scraped a sequel to Spider-Man 3 and there were a total of 5 TASM films planned. These suits are dumb enough to do anything at any time.
tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 3:11 AM
@KingCipher - I used to like Hardy, but Locke made him one of my favorite actors working, and Fury Road the next year only cemented that
SimplyAz
SimplyAz - 8/29/2019, 3:18 AM
@NateBest IS there any update on fixing the issues on this site dude?

NateBest
NateBest - 8/29/2019, 1:07 PM
@SimplyAz - It's a work-in-progress. I should have an update in place by the weekend (reworking all of the server data caching...)
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/29/2019, 3:22 AM
@tmp3 - Tarantino released the “best” movie of the year. Tarantino can go to any studio to distribute his movies. Stop acting like he’s in anyway dependent on a shitty studio like Sony.
Kurne
Kurne - 8/29/2019, 3:28 AM
They're trying to screw up the third Spidey film. For the third time.
Kurne
Kurne - 8/29/2019, 3:28 AM
It's literally all the same people behind it as well.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 8/29/2019, 3:31 AM
Can Disney even do that? They didn't own the rights to Spidey. Can't Sony do what they want with him outside the MCU?

Maybe it went outside the confines of his contract.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 8/29/2019, 3:32 AM
The fact that Sony may have tried this does not bode well for the future of live action Spidey films there
tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 3:35 AM
@PlusUltra - I don't think any studio is altruistic, but Sony's one of the only ones that still produces adult dramas that cost more than $10m. The only other studio that was in talks to buy that film was WB, and if Sony goes out then it's just gonna be one company making all of those kinds of films, which isn't a good thing at all.

@RageDriver2401 - I love Endgame, probably #2 or 3 for me, but it's not as good as OUATIH imo
Jeight8
Jeight8 - 8/29/2019, 3:36 AM
Some people act like Holland's version is Sony's version of Spider-man. He is not. He is MCU's. He appeared in Civil War and he was cast by Russos screentesting opposite Evans and RDJ. By putting him in a non-MCU movie be Venom Marvel is risking associating their product with a critically panned film.

Feige isn't gonna have that. He has given blood and tears for the MCU, he wont have the audience mistaking Venom as part of the MCU.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 8/29/2019, 3:38 AM
Disney messed up so much with Spider-man, they were so unsure of themselves that they purposefully ended the MCU films on cliffhangers to keep the audience wanting another film rather than delivering satisfying conclusions that would feel finalised if they lost Spider-man.

Now we have a continuity breaking ending for Far From Home and Disney is entirely to blame.
Kurne
Kurne - 8/29/2019, 3:48 AM
@Scarilian - why are you making all these dumbass assumptions again?
Scarilian
Scarilian - 8/29/2019, 4:36 AM
@Kurne -
Think, rather than insult. Then you'll understand.

Companies baiting people with sequels to secure a sequel happens almost constantly. Want to find out how this concludes? Support it enough and maybe we'll get another series or a sequel or basically any other continuation.

Here is why the MCU continuity is doomed;
Disney can no longer reference, acknowledge or refer to Spider-man in canon in the MCU from the point of the deal seperating.

Spider-man was labelled as an attempted mass murderer, the IRL breakdown of the deal means he has to stay that way. No development, no updates, no fallout.

The natural result of this would be tighter legislation on the heroes coupled with basically a massive distrust forming against heroes. Yet none of this can happen because they cannot acknowledge why it would be happening.

Worse still is that the main hero of the MCU in the publics eyes has just passed from Iron Man to Mysterio. The world wanted a new Iron Man, someone else to look up to. Mysterio delivered that. Sure Iron Man and the Avengers saved them all from the blip, but Mysterio just stopped a fellow hero going rogue and slaughtering all of London.

Mysterio is the foundation of the MCU going forward, when people think of heroes they think of the guy who stopped Spider-man from slaughtering all of London.

How in the absolute frick do you possibly expect them to tackle this in the MCU now that they have lost the rights to Spider-man and the ability to even reference it as happening?

Narratively they have commited suicide they cannot go forward without addressing it. They have wrote themselves into a cliffhanger that fundamentally changes the entirety of the MCU going forward.
dracula
dracula - 8/29/2019, 3:39 AM
@tmp3 - to be clear, im not actually rooting for it t go under and for people to loose their jobs, just saying if it happens Disney gets Spider-Man back. There have been talk of Sony selling off its film division in the past, and their movies are rarely making money. If they can turn things around and they start putting out quality films again then great, but if things don't change, i'd expect them to be sold off within 10 years
Jeight8
Jeight8 - 8/29/2019, 3:40 AM
Spider-man doesn't need to be front and center. Traditional comic popularities are gone. The Avengers are the most popular team in the world, not JL. Guardians are more popular than X-men. Iron Man , Cap and Thor were the pillars of the Infinity Saga not Spider-man, Wolverine or Hulk.

Just because spider-man is huge it doesn't mean he is gonna be front and center in the MCU. Comic popularity doesn't matter ina universe where Iron Man 3 and Black Panther are the top 2 highest grossing solo cbms, not Batman or Spider-man...
Noobmaster69
Noobmaster69 - 8/29/2019, 5:23 AM
@Jeight8 - I'm not talking about comic popularity. You wrongly assumed I was referring to the literary side of Spider-Man's legacy. I have no idea why you gleaned all that from my post. It's all good, though. I was just commenting on behalf of my own sensibilities on who I believe is the ideal candidate to carry the MCU on their back, after Robert Downey Jr. vacated that position like a boss.

But of course I know all too well that Marvel's holy trinity of Cap, Tony, and Thor pulled central focus in the first three phases. All I'm saying is that Spidey deserves the top spot at the head of the table because there's no other character better suited for this job, narratively and personally speaking. Yes, there will be ensemble films tailored around multiple lead characters at a time. Arguably, there can only be one MCU mascot who is seen as the premier through-line for several cycles of new phases.

Out of Cap, Iron Man, and Thor, most fans believe that Tony Stark was the mainstay/audience surrogate/helmsman for 11 straight years. Although, Cap is my favorite Avenger, I would have to agree that Robert was the top-billing star for good reason. Tons of fans, like myself, feel that Spidey is a natural and worthy successor to Tony. The past 5 MCU films featuring Peter set this exact idea up perfectly. He is the most salivated over superhero worldwide. Who better to usher in the next decade of Marvel Studios' supremacy than our friendly neighborhood Spider-Man?
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 8/29/2019, 3:42 AM
I don't know who said it before, but it would be fun to see Tom Holland playing Tom Holland in the MCU
Noobmaster69
Noobmaster69 - 8/29/2019, 3:50 AM
Disney and Sony better find a way to renegotiate for the survival of Spider-man in our beloved MCU! I say this as someone who absolutely adores the entire catalog of Spider-Man films ranging from Raimi's Trilogy, Webb's Duology, Spider-Verse, to Watts' recent flicks. Keep in mind that the best Spider-Man TV series ever made was produced solely by Sony. Credit where credit is due. Spider-Man needs to be front and center as the new face of the MCU, going forward. Peter Parker is the one true successor to Anthony Stark! Make mine Marvel, Disney and Sony! Give us the Spider-Man we truly deserve as loyal fans!





PicolasCage
PicolasCage - 8/29/2019, 3:54 AM
And thank god they did. I’m scared to see what horseshit unshackled Sony will come up with.

dracula
dracula - 8/29/2019, 3:54 AM
@malesia012 pretty sure if Sony's film division is sold, the rights revert back to marvel. that's what would have happened if someone else bought fox. Seems like that would have to happen for Spiderman to go back to marvel, I doubt disney would be allowed to buy another company
TMW1987ProudProWrestlingFan
TMW1987ProudProWrestlingFan - 8/29/2019, 3:56 AM
They didn't want the cameo when thy saw how bad & awful Venom was. Had it have been a better film, they might have come to terms on leaving him in. Feige knows something that looks shit when he sees it.

Sony needs help on Venom 2 but too stubborn to realise. Don't care about box office (Yes, I know that's the main thing), but care about quality & Venom did not deserve to make what it made in terms of box office.

Not hyped for Holland to be involved with Venom 2 or bringing Venom into their third Spider-Man film unless Sony works something out to be working with Disney / Marvel Studios again & get help on both / either.

F uck Sony! F uck Tom Rothman!
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