Justice League director Zack Snyder recently sat down with
Comic Book Debate to discuss a number of topics, and while he didn't delve into the "Snyder Cut," the filmmaker did talk about some of the female characters he brought to the big screen while working on the DC Extended Universe.
Snyder is, of course, responsible for introducing Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman in
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and while Warner Bros. was hesitant to have her enter the DCEU at that stage, the filmmaker says,
"Everyone thought it was too soon but I felt like it was time and it was inevitable."
Does he think
Wonder Woman would have been made without him, though?
"I don’t know!," he laughed.
"Maybe, maybe not...I just know that Wonder Woman was a unique and amazing opportunity. I’m happy and proud of the work behind the film. I’m happy that it worked out the way that it did."
Snyder was also responsible for bringing Lois Lane back to the big screen, and shared some insight on his take on the character.
"She [Lois] doesn’t need Superman or Clark, the fact that Clark likes her makes him smarter, cooler, better! The more badass Lois is, the better Clark gets. They are an amazing duo who needs each other, but Clark needs her more. You need Lois for a better story."
As for what made Amy Adams right choice, he added:
"Amy actually inspired that opening scene in Batman v Superman. She mentioned journalists who have been in war zones and we went along with it. At a time, it was between her and Zoe Saldana." It's crazy to think what might have been, as the director notes,
"They’re totally different, but their presence is super strong."
Saldana ended up joining the Marvel Cinematic Universe as Gamora in
Guardians of the Galaxy, a movie that Jason Momoa - who Snyder cast as Aquaman - was also being eyed for before he turned down the role of Drax.
What are your thoughts on the director's remarks?
Hit the "View List" button for a breakdown of what Snyder
had planned for Justice League and its scrapped sequels!
The Original Version Of Justice League Wasn't Even Shot
For a good year and a half now, fans have been demanding that Warner Bros. "#ReleaseTheSnyderCut." Well, it doesn't sound as if that even exists because Snyder has revealed that the original version of the screenplay was never shot due to the response to Batman v Superman and Warner Bros.' concerns about moviegoers not embracing this darker take on the DCEU.
"The original Justice League that Chris [Terrio] and I wrote, we didn't even shoot," he confirmed. "The actual idea, the hard, hard idea, the scary idea, we never filmed because the studio was like 'That's crazy.'"
"When this movie came out, understand that Chris Terrio and I had finished the script to Justice League before Batman v Superman came out. Some people didn't like the movie. A vocal minority. So they said 'There's a lot of stuff we don't want you to do,' so we did a rewrite from that script." Snyder did, however, shed some light on what that would have entailed...
"Knightmare" Was Going To Be Explained
The "Knightmare" sequence in
Batman v Superman was awesome, but it was also kind of baffling. It felt like a random addition and was never elaborated on, either in this movie or
Justice League.
"It's a long story," Snyder explains.
"The truth is that, the Knightmare sequence in this movie was always my idea that all of that would eventually be explained."
Apparently, we would have then ended up in the
"distant future, where Darkseid has taken over Earth...[and] a few members of the Justice League that had survived in that world...were fighting."
So, as most of expected, a future
Justice League movie would indeed have taken place in the distant future with the heroes attempting to travel back in time and set things right. That sounds pretty similar to those rumours about
Avengers: Endgame, though, right?
Superman Has Succumbed To The Anti-Life Equation
What led to "Knightmare" becoming a reality? Well, Darkseid had taken over the Earth and Superman had succumbed to the Anti-Life Equation, thereby explaining why he had turned evil in the flashforward sequence from
Batman v Superman.
The Man of Steel's fall from grace would have led to Batman, the Flash, and a "broken" Cyborg attempting to send the Fastest Man Alive back in time to warn Bruce about what was to come, and that explains what the Caped Crusader saw in the Batcave when Barry Allen told him that "Lois is the key."
Snyder didn't elaborate on how all this would have worked beyond confirming that he and Terrio figured out a complicated time-travel formula, and while Warner Bros. was initially on board, "the details of how and why" the Justice League broke up made them nervous and had to be changed.
A Scrapped Post-Credits Scene
Snyder still hasn't seen Joss Whedon's version of Justice League, but he did comment on a scrapped post-credits scene which would have referenced the events of Batman v Superman and set the stage for what was going to come next.
"The Justice League teaser that wasn't in the movie, apparently, I guess, where Wonder Woman says, it's this line where Bruce says 'I was right here when Barry Allen came to me and he said Lois Lane is the key,' and she says 'She is, to Superman. Every heart has one.' And he goes, 'I think it's something more, something darker.'"
The director went on to say that the League had to prevent Lois' death because that would lead to Superman succumbing to the Anti-Life Equation. That explains why the Man of Steel blamed Bruce for her death, because it was going to be down to Batman to protect her and he would have taken her to the Batcave to do so.
The Death Of Lois Lane
Snyder didn't fully elaborate on how things would have played out (and it all sounds a little jumbled) but he confirmed that Darkseid was going to travel into the Batcave via Boom Tube, and he would have killed the intrepid Daily Planet reporter in order to break Superman and bring him to his side.
This is where time-travel once again comes into play, and things get even more confusing...
Time-Travel And A Battle In The Batcave
Finally, it's said that using the cosmic treadmill, the Flash would have been able to transport himself back in time to the same spot in space; this would mean the remaining League members would have had to choose carefully otherwise Barry Allen could have landed in the wrong location or even just the void of space.
Because Bruce remembered that visit from Barry, he allowed the half of Cyborg that remained to choose the window the Fastest Man Alive would be sent back to, which would help him to avoid arriving "too soon." The new window in time would have seen him show up in the Batcave moments before Darkseid so he could stop Lois' murder and help avoid Superman's turn to the dark side.
This all sounds tremendously convoluted, but also pretty damn awesome for the most part.
Steppenwolf Was Never Set To Appear In Justice League
As you may recall, there have been rumours that Steppenwolf was supposed to appear in
Suicide Squad with Darkseid then taking on the lead role in
Justice League as big bad. Snyder says he doesn't know anything about that, but confirmed that he worked with director David Ayer to add Batman and the Flash to that movie despite wanting to keep the two franchises as separate as possible.
What About The "Snyder Cut"?
Snyder clearly had some awesome and crazy ideas for
Justice League (remember that Warner Bros. initially announced
Justice League: Part One and
Justice League: Part Two) and while a lot of scenes ended up on the cutting room floor due to those reshoots, it doesn't appear as if anything resembling what the filmmaker has described here was ever shot.
As a result, the only way we're going to see the "Snyder Cut" become a reality is if the director chooses to release the original screenplay, or if he puts it into graphic novel form for DC Comics.
While it's tricky to put much of what he's said into context, it's clear that he had some cool ideas and it's easy enough to see where he was going to take things, even if he didn't elaborate on how the story was going to wrap up. What do you guys think? As always, share your thoughts in the usual place.
Continue reading below for some previously
released "Snyder Cut" reveals from Kevin Smith!
According to Smith, crew members saw Jim Lee storyboards for all three movies. While the first instalment we ended up seeing (with Joss Whedon's reshoots) mostly played out how Snyder planned, the biggest change was that the ending would have featured an appearance from Darkseid as he stared down the team through the Boom Tube Steppenwolf escaped in.
In the sequel, however, things would have taken a cosmic turn for the iconic heroes...
Apparently, the League would have taken the fight to Apokolips in a movie which may have also featured New Genesis. It was in this movie that the Green Lantern Corps would have got involved and Smith claims that the scene with Alfred in the Justice League trailer where he says "Let's hope you're not too late..." was originally going to be with Green Lantern, not Superman.
Crew members even had green lights which they shined on Jeremy Irons but plans clearly changed and the Corps remained relegated to those flashback scenes.
Justice League 2 would have featured a dark ending along the lines of The Empire Strikes Back or Avengers: Infinity War as the team would have been defeated in space before Darkseid arrived on Earth and, in Smith's words, "levels it."
Needless to say, that would have made things difficult for the solo movies Warner Bros. had planned but it would have nicely led to that "Knightmare" vision Batman had becoming a reality and the Flash having to travel back in time.
As you might expect, Justice League 3 would have pitted the heroes against Darkseid for one final stand against the villain as they attempted to set things right. The director stops there but this adventure presumably would have featured time-travel and possibly even the evil Superman we saw kill Batman in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. It's hard to say.
Either way, Smith says, "I really feel like hearing what we heard, we might have missed something." It's hard to disagree with that...