Gavin Hood Talks Wolverine Deleted Scenes

Gavin Hood Talks Wolverine Deleted Scenes

Like him or not X-Men Origins: Wolverine director Gavin Hood explains himself, a little.

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By jman1977 - Sep 15, 2009 02:09 PM EST
Source: splashpage.mtv.com

In the Blu-Ray special edition of X-Men Origins: Wolverine there is a special scene involving Sabretooth and Stryker. The two are discussing Wolverine decision to have his memory totally wiped clean.

This from MTV News:

"Wolverine's brother, played by Liev Schrieber, says to Stryker, ‘Will he remember me?’ and there’s a tremendous moment of vulnerability where Stryker looks at him as if he’s crazy and says, ‘No, of course not,’" Hood told MTV News. "Then Victor Creed says, 'Then let him go,' which is beautiful."

Gavin goes on to further explain why he cut the scene?:

"The reason we opted not to go with that scene quite frankly," Hood explained, "is in test screenings there were people who felt they couldn’t get past the idea of Wolverine allowing Stryker—after everything that Stryker has done—to do this to him."

I wonder how the fan reaction was with what Gavin did to Deadpool? Could they not get past that either? I bet not. News broke yesterday of Gavin Hood not being attached to the Wolvie sequel. I say yay to that. Keep this guy out of there and we might get a decent Mutant movie from Fox. Then again we might not. It was also reported that Laura Donner Schuler is going to reboot Deadpool. If that's not the studio saying that they screwed the pooch with X-Men Origins: Wolverine, then I don't know what they would say. I bet it would probably go something like this: "We are going to take all are ideas that we came up with by ourselves (Fox) and throw them out the window and act like they never happened, that way for the sequel we will have a fresh start and will act like the events in X-Men Origins: Wolverine never took place." Yeah, it would probably be something like that if it were a official statement.

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Xfactorz
Xfactorz - 9/15/2009, 2:47 PM
Wolverine was such a disappointment! I am looking forward to them getting it right next time.
How do you post a video link here guys?
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 2:48 PM
I take it the deleted scences are the best bits of BORIGINS then lol?! ; D
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 2:50 PM
Xfactorz @ You have to googles going an copy and paste it say from You Tube to here in the comments box!
Xfactorz
Xfactorz - 9/15/2009, 2:57 PM
Lee@ What do you mean by "googles going"? I was hoping to share this trailer but can't seem to get it to work as a link.

If anybody can help me share this as a link please do so. I know it is off topic but I wasn't sure of where to try to post it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4pEKQ_zUBo
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 9/15/2009, 3:01 PM
I really dont see why Gavin Hood is constantly being ripped on! The movie was actually very well directed IMO and though he definetly can be partly blamed for the Deadpool fiasco, you have to remember that he didnt write the damned script!!!

I actually quite enjoyed Wolverine - it had a fair few faults (Deadpool of course as well as a few other things like the adamantium bullet) but overall it was quite enjoyable and had some really good parts! I for one will definitely be buying the blu-ray! :)
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 9/15/2009, 3:06 PM
@josh...Me too! Those scenes shouldn't be extra though, they should be integrated into the movie as a directors cut.

As far as the test audiences go? HAHA, well, something tells me if Hood had screened the "magic bullet" ending for them instead, they would have rioted! This is why i say a director should always go with his gut, for better or worse. That scene sounds much better and closer to what happens in the comics, but because some people in the test screening whine about it he changes it..to something worse!
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 9/15/2009, 3:11 PM
ROR: thats actually a really good idea about a Directors Cut - like with Daredevil, a DC could really improve some of the bad points of the movie! (oh, and Ive replied to you over on my FF fan cast RE: Rupert Everett!)

LEE: have you actually seen Wolverine!? Ever since I found out that you've never read The Ultimates (if you had, you would have known there was an Ultimate Captain Britain) but go on about it all the time calling it crap, I find it kinda hard to take you opinions seriously! :(
ironknight27
ironknight27 - 9/15/2009, 3:16 PM
Ror- I wonder if there were even any true wolverine fans that screened it.

joshw24- The ultimate line gets a lot of crap but I thought that Ultimate Spidey, X-Men, and the Ultimates were solid books. I did not really care for the Ultimate FF or Ultimatium though. Now that Miller is back with the Ultimate Avengers I think things will pick up again.

Ozy- While I did not hate I will admit it had its flaws. I still enjoyed it though.
thwhtGuardian
thwhtGuardian - 9/15/2009, 3:18 PM
meh, as much as I love wolverine I'm not that interested in seeing a second attempt, the first one was god awful and I'm not sure fox has the brains to get it right in the second one. ~sniffles~I just don't want to be hurt again...
yeah, I say nay on wolverine two or a magneto movie.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 3:23 PM
JOSH @ Why don't you BEND OVER just a bit more lol!

The film is TOTAL CRAP and sorry both FF movies are much better quality than this piece of sh!Te!! ; D

And i only bought the 1st series of ULTIMATES, that was enough lol.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 9/15/2009, 3:23 PM
ironknight27: I also enjoyed Ultimate Spider-Man and X-Men (I wasnt too keen on Ultimate FF though) but fell behind once I started buying a lot of other titles. They had some really great story arcs and The Ultimates 1 & 2 were absolutely brilliant (i just wish i had the actual issues rather than the graphic novels!) Loeb's Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum were utter crap but now Miller's back on Ultimate Avengers, things are really picking up! The whole Red Skull storyline is a really great new take on the character! :)
animeex
animeex - 9/15/2009, 3:25 PM
Wolverine wasn't great and now other movies will just pretend it didn't happen... Why don't these people get test groups and explain the stories. Then you get some kind of feedback. Both are needed. Comic and average movie goers. It's like Highlander... The claimed that the second movie never happened. Unreal!
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 9/15/2009, 3:27 PM
LEE: right, the FF movies were great! What did you like most? Jessica Alba's dreadful acting, the FF and Doom's screwed up origins, or cloud Galactus!?! And I really dont get how you couldnt like The Ultimates, lol!!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 3:29 PM
Xfactor @ You Tube wont let you move that NINJA SCROLLS trailer here, soz dude, just been there!

JOSH @ I cant beieve you hate all 3 x-movies but like BORIGINS WTF/????

You seriously telling me you rate WOLVERINE over X-MEN & X2?? Lmao! ; D
NERO
NERO - 9/15/2009, 3:30 PM
Wolverine was 5 out of 10.

Jackman: Always good.
Liev: Awesome Sabretooth. My problems come from too many characters used in shotgun style plot that was all over the place. Action: Decent. Deadpool: an utter bastardization, though I like Reynolds playing him. The movie gave you a lot of gold nuggets that turned out to be spray painted lead when you scratched the surface.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 3:34 PM
The cloud was sh!T lol, but we was told you don't see GALACTUS, thats for the SILVER SURFER movie!

I like the REAL AVENGERS comics dude, not crappy copies! ; )

NERO @ Problem is, BORIGINS should've been a 8 or 9 out of 10, they [frick]ed it right up lol, and they didn't need to do half the [frick]ing things they did, FOX tut tut lol.
NERO
NERO - 9/15/2009, 3:34 PM
X2 was the best of the series so far, X3 and wolvie are about tied for dead last, one tipping out the other depending on my mood.

Wolverine had potential, but it has Fox meddling written all over it.
ZOtis4
ZOtis4 - 9/15/2009, 3:34 PM
They should just give them back to marvel. Let them do what they do. Marvel studios have made the best marvel movies to date. Yes i will the first punisher was pretty good and the Blade serious. the third one well it was ok.

think about:
FF 1 & 2 REBOOT
Daredevil REBOOT
X-Men 1,2, & 3 REBOOT
HULK REBOOT

Spiderman prolly would have been if they didn't have the contract. i have all of the movies that have been done. I prolly have watch Ironman the most. Spider-man 3 maybe 2. And Spiderman is my fav marvel character.

For my Hawkeye script, when its done, its going straight to Marvel!
Xfactorz
Xfactorz - 9/15/2009, 3:36 PM
Lee@ It was for Ninja Assassin, but thanks for trying. Weird though because I just copied the link on another forum and it worked just fine.
NERO
NERO - 9/15/2009, 3:39 PM
There needs to be a limit placed on how any X characters can be used in one movie. That would help for one. Gambit; as much as I've wanted to see him in film was wasted in Wolverine. I mean the story takes place 15 years before X1, this means Gambit will be near middle aged in any inclusion in an X film set in the present. They wasted the character. Why?
jallanr
jallanr - 9/15/2009, 3:40 PM
i haven`t seen this movie yet (i dont know why), but im going to go rent it tonight. I dont know, iv heard people say from it being a totally awful film to an amazing film, so, i`ll have to wait and see

woo hoo!
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 9/15/2009, 3:47 PM
sigh...LEE: The WHOLE point of The Ultimates was to give a brand new, more realistic take on The Avengers!!! They're not "copies", they're all new character for [frick]s sake, lol! The Ultimates 1 & 2 are both amazing IMO and a fascinating take on what it would be like if superheroes were here in our worls! If you just forgot about the regular characters and accepted The Ultimates as a whole different entity...well, the point is you're missing out on something amazing!

As for X1 and X2, I hated them both as they're nothing like what I wanted the X-Men movies to be and were too stuffed full of Singers disguised feelings about homohobia. I think Wolverine was better then the X-Men films because despite some minor mistakes like Deadpool the film actually felt like what a Wolverine movie should be like and what Wolverine is like in the comic books!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 3:58 PM
Xfactorz @ No probs, yeah sometimes they just don't let you, copyright bollox lol.

OMG JOSH @ How can you say X2 or even X1 is better than CRAPPY BORIGINS?? Are you high lol???

Seriously your joking right? Plz tell me you joking??

OMFG!!!

P.S. JOSH @ No way in HELL is BORIGINS better than X-MEN and X2!!! WTF?
JOSH @ You don't even read great VERTIGO comics, then you know what AMAZING is, ive read a few ULTIMATE SPIDEYS an stuff, the odd few an they're sh!te lol, i like the real MARVEL Universe, there's a reason why they are killing off everyone in the ULTIMARE-VERSE lol!

It is a ULTIMARE NIGHTMARE! ; D
krypton38
krypton38 - 9/15/2009, 4:05 PM
Lee@ I don't know you but you sound like you are talking out of your arse when it comes to the ultimates. The first two series are easily two of the best books ever. Have you read them???
thwhtGuardian
thwhtGuardian - 9/15/2009, 4:05 PM
Whille I agree with you josh about the ultimates, they are amazing, even the third wasn't to bad just not as amazing the the first two. But in regards to wolverine I have to disagree. While the first two xmen movies were far from perfect they both had meaningful stories to tell, wolverine felt like a piece of bad fanfiction it was all about trying to fit in as many heroes as you possibly could just for the sake of bringing heroes to the screen. It had no rhyme or reason to it, it just jumped from one scene to the next. The only good part of the whole movie, the only part with any genuine emotion was when logan got the coat and bike from the two old farmers. There was a connection there, the was something approaching an interesting plot point...and then there was an explosion.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 9/15/2009, 4:26 PM
LEE: i think that krypton38 is right - you are talking out of your ass! Im talking about The Ultimates 1 and 2 not USM! Cant you understand that The Ultimates are something entirely different!?! You saying that you prefer the "real" characters is just like supermike when he used to say he prefered the "real" characters in the comic books rather than the movies! THEY ARE TWO SEPERATE THINGS!!! The only reason a whole pile of characters were killed off is because Jeph Loeb is one of the worst comic book writers out there!!

thwhtknight: maybe, when i re-watch Wolverine on blu-ray, ill feel differently, lol!?! I almostenjoyed Spider-Man 3the first time i saw until until i watched it a second time and realised how awful it was! i think i get caught up in the excitement the first time round! :D
NERO
NERO - 9/15/2009, 4:26 PM
@ LEE Ultimates 1 and 2 really did rock, man. You should give them a shot sometime.
ironknight27
ironknight27 - 9/15/2009, 4:34 PM
Yeah Ultimates 1 & 2 were good. Millar rocked it on those books.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 9/15/2009, 4:36 PM
nerosday & ironknight27: yeah, i really wish that Miller would do a Captain Britain solo series after reading Ultimates 2 - the part where Captain britain tears his shirt open Superman style revealing the Union Jack costume beneath gave me goosebumps, lol! have either of you been reading Millars, 'Old Man Logan'?
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 9/15/2009, 4:48 PM
Ultimate Cap and Ultimate Thor are better than the regular Marvel ones..blasphemy right? Still a fact. I appreciate that they just stood on the shoulders of the original characters but they also fixed some huge problems i always had with them. Namely cap being a self righteous prick at times(Ultimate Cap is just a hard bastard) and Thor bring a Shakespeare quoting poser. Its much more realistic that if he were to come to earth and interact with other heroes that he would not reveal much about himself and pass himself off as a bit of a lunatic..it just adds a bit of depth. And you will notice the significant changes for the better in both of the original versions of these characters since the Ultimates! Civil War Cap was the best I have ever seen..granted you had a writer like Millar on that too..but other writers are starting to follow suit.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 9/15/2009, 5:05 PM
Rorschach01: I only got round to reading Ultimates 2 a month or so ago but after reading that I have to agree with you about Thor - the Ultimate version is a lot more interesting and though i would necessarily want the whole storyline about Thor possibly being a lunatic in The Avengers, I think it would be great if that was factored into the movie somehow - after all, (and just as Millar did in The Ultimates) is a genius like Tony Stark really going to believe that this guy is a Norse God!?

As for Cap, I once again agree - his portrayal in The Ultimates is also much more realistic and (though again, not 100%) that is the version I would most like to see in 'The First Avenger' - I never actually liked the regular Cap until Ed Brubaker's run and Civil War because he always came across as being a complete asshole - i remember seeing him in various comic books including The Avengers and in all of them he was written as...well, a self righteous prick, lol!! As Ive said before my favourite scene from The Ultimates has to be:

Captain America: C'mere, let me get a closer look at that big gash on your cheek...

Bruce Banner: But I haven't got a gash on my cheek.

(Cap boots Banner across the face)

Captain America: You do now, son. Dig out a straightjacket in size thirty-four, General. We're bringing him in.

THAT is why i think Ultimate Captain America is the best version! Miller wrote him in a way that is completely unique and believable for a super soldier from WWII! Just like JMS dropping the Shakespearean dialogue for Thro, I for one am glad to see Ultimate Cap being incorporated into the regular Cap! :)
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 9/15/2009, 5:06 PM
Man, thats a freaking editorial almost, lol! :D
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 9/15/2009, 5:17 PM
I enjoyed Wolverine. It was fun and entertaining. But it was a bad movie, sort of a guilty pleasure.

They got half of Deadpool right. The first part with Reynolds as Wade was perfect. However, we all know what happened in the second part.

I'd give Wolverine a 6/10, and place it in 3rd in the X-franchise, after X2(first) and X-Men (second), but before X3.
krypton38
krypton38 - 9/15/2009, 5:44 PM
joshw24: Cap was def better, not so sure if I prefer the Ultimate Thor version over the classic but I def think they screwed up big time with Iron Mans Suit....its shit
krypton38
krypton38 - 9/15/2009, 6:14 PM
By the way where has LEEE777 gone? Maybe to actually read the books before he shits out those cock jock comments. Anyway I think it was FOX who ruined Wolverine, not so much Hood. He wanted a darker more adult film and FOX interfered by calling for scenes to be re shot. Studio interference can kill any film and who knows how many doctors worked on that script to suit FOX.
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